• Marvel Cinematic Universe thread: Worse numbering than IMs suits edition
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In the second season of the castlevania anime they spend 4 episodes in a library joking and reading books. (the season was 8 episodes long.) the entire season only features two major action scenes, one at the start and one at the end, and one of them was featured as the season's trailer. i'm going to asume its the exact same thing with the marvel shows.
Not really. There wasn't setpiece exaggerration because animating static figures quipping is way cheaper than action. What Marvel did have is was A useless side arcs in JJ and IF that didn't get any of the characters forward, even the supporting ones, looking at Ward and Joy in IF season and 2 is almost look at two completely different characters; and B particularly in both these shows almost no time was spent getting the villains where they needed to be. There was some of this in LC, but very little but there was enough to call it out, and most of it was pandery social justice vignettes that have no place in a story where both villain and hero are the PRODUCTS of racism and the damage it does. DD had basically none of this but the hand arc is almost universally hated so in essence the hand arc is the same thing but the entire episode according to a lot of viewers, Punisher has literally none of this but in choosing to put Madani front and center for rather obvious political reasons prolly generated the same opinions from viewers even though that wasn't the deal, since she's tied directly to both Frank and Billy, a lot of people simply didn't like her for whatever reason, and the time used to fill her out could have been used on Rawlins, whom if you haven't read MAX, you have no fucking clue who this guys is or what he's about other than "is an asshole".
the first season is 4 episodes long and features action scenes in every episode. it was the selling point of the show and what made everyone praise it. the second season focused way too much of exposition, secondary characters, backstory but there was little to no character development until the very last episode.
again all of the things you're describing require fullscreen multiphase animation and therefore money, meanwhile there series' reception on S2 was rather positive and they did it cheaper. Not hard to see why.
Castlevania s2's problem isn't so much with a lack of action so much as the fact that most of the plot is spent on largely repetitive vampire politics that could have been cut down by three or four episodes without any meaningful loss because the characters aren't really deep enough to need it. There's plenty of things they could have done to develop characters that don't require action, and even then there's straight up a random action scene where the vampires go "hey let's go fuck up a village" that's pretty much completely unnecessary slapped into the middle of vampire politics because they realised they didn't have any action but had some money left over. Animation is expensive. Character development isn't. There is a better solution than "trevor and the gang hang out in a library for six episodes while the vampires act pissy in a castle for roughly the same amount of time". This isn't even getting into s2's problem of extreme over-explaining characters and their personalities and motivations. For fuck's sake there's a scene where a character literally says "you've grown as a person" like the audience is too brain dead to get it, or when characters are just flat out explaining other characters. I enjoyed S2 but it has serious problems and I think ultimately giving vampire politics more than one or two episodes was a huge mistake.
i think it's unfair to compare castlevania s2 was ~maybe a little long~ while these marvel series straight up insert major characters and season-long plot arcs just to lengthen the show
This. All the vampire drama at least felt relevant to the overall plot once it tied back up with our protagonists. Whereas some of these Marvel shows feel like they literally said "well this side character needs SOMETHING to do when we cut away from the interesting stuff". It utilizes strategies that could work well (like the villain twist in Luke Cage Season 1) and implements them in a way that really shows off how the show isn't strong enough on its own to stick the landing without looking like it's actively padding for time. I'd rather my filler involve Peter Stormare ranting about boats and hoes than watch Elektra blueball Matt over and over again while Karen and Frank are having a lovely offscreen time at the fireworks factory.
Pretty heavy spoilers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2RFMu1RWCU Also, Toby was going to voice Peter, but I guess that's too confusing.
Man, Toby voicing Peter, only for him and MJ to get divorced would have actually lined up perfectly with where Raimi wanted to take Spider-Man 4. I'm actually really excited for this take on Peter Parker, considering how nonchalantly he mentions how he fucking buried Aunt May. Like, this is either gonna be a really novel, tragic portrayal of the character, or a notch above "gee golly gosh thanks for patting me on the head and calling me a good boy Uncle Stark" in terms of how hard it misses the point of Peter as a character.
The fact that Sony of all studios seems to be making a good movie is blowing my mind.
Sony can make good films, anyone can. However the words "I'm looking forward to the new Miles Morales vehicle, and he looks interesting" is something that I never expected to say.
It was a really good move to make this a weird animated thing. If we were getting a live-action Miles Morales movie, I'd have negative shits to give about it, but the fact that it's this gorgeously animated fever dream that combines tons of different art styles got me on board long before they fucking announced Nic Cage and John Mulaney as Spider-Man Noir and Peter Porker. Like, I feel like this is how studios should go about implementing weirder/more low-key heroes. A live-action Kamala Kahn movie would be the blandest shit, but turn it into some bouncy vibrant cartoon and now we're getting somewhere.
It's because its a Lord and Miller joint (screenwriter and producer, respectively). Everything they touch turns to gold. Well, except for Star Wars, but that doesn't count anyway, because zero percent of their work made it into the final cut. And at this rate I'm more inclined to believe that the movie they made was better than what we actually got, rumors be damned.
They specialize in taking awful, corporate concepts ("A movie about LEGO!" "A big-screen adaptation of that Johnny Depp cop show from the 80's!" "Feature film adaptation of a 32-page picture book with no discernible plot or characters!") and spinning them into pure gold. It's all just a means of amassing enough money and Hollywood street cred to buy the rights to Clone High back from Viacom and continue making it independently.
Probably because he's not written by the same people.
SOny can do good stuff. its the Sonyc Pictures that ends up screweing it
https://youtu.be/xOH3vmzzsq8
I'm 100% betting on the Captain Marvel trailers being light on story stuff being related to them not wanting to spoil stuff. The relative absence of Jude Law was already mentioned but the importance of amnesia in the movie (apparantly) and Feige saying 'it's a very different kind of origin movie' leads me to believe there will probably be a big twist somewhere probably something about 'wow jude law is actually the bad guy' or whatever
Trailer's out boys and girls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA6hldpSTF8
its here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA6hldpSTF8
Ooh, picking up or less right where we left off. Not what I expected.
So basically thanos won and they're all dead. what are they going to fight again? I supose they're after the time gem and revert everything?
Spoilers for Antman & The Wasp and Avengers: Endgame: It's likely that it will involve time travel, but not using the time stone. In Antman & The Wasp there is mention of time vortices in the quantum realm. Seeing how Scott Lang gets stuck there at the end of that movie, and considering how, in the trailer, Cap and Black Widow are watching archived footage of Scott Lang at the front door, I think it's pretty clear exactly how they are going to go back in time.
I don't think that's archive footage, cap only asks that, Black Widow clarifies saying it's the front door.
The archive footage thing would be pretty cool. But yeah, I don't think they would have revealed it in this trailer this way
Earlier in the trailer, it's implied that they think Scott's dead, presumably because of him being in the quantum realm when the snap happened, and that shot of him outside is probably the first anybody's seen of him since then. Hence the question about archive footage, and Black Widow needing to clarify.
Not only that, but it very clearly says "Archive" on the top left of the screen.
That opening Tony death message got me, and seeing that restrained desperation from Captain America really sold me on the tone. I'm pretty excited to see how the whole movie is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0B-VPiC9IU oh god
so its safe to asume antman 2 is a must now?
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