• Marvel Cinematic Universe thread: Worse numbering than IMs suits edition
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Pretty much yeah.
Ant-Man 2 is, as far as I'm concerned, still totally nonessential viewing. It's not a Winter Soldier kind of sequel, where it affects literally everything else in the MCU. Heck, it's not even an Iron Man 2 kind of sequel where it introduces multiple major characters. All you need to know is Hope is the new Wasp, Jan is out of the Quantum Realm and living with Hank, and all three get dusted while Scott is exploring the Quantum Realm. If anything, it's entirely invalidated by the first Endgame trailer It's a cute movie with some fun character stuff, but I felt kinda similarly to how I felt about Black Panther; it's fine, but you don't need to rush out to see it unless you wanna see every Marvel movie.
Except Ant Man 2 is pretty much key to how Tony gets time travel, which is a not insignificant plot point.
Everyone seems to be taking time travel as a given, but I think it's much more likely it'll be an alternate universe sort of thing. Maybe even both. Imagine a final battle filled with alternate Thors, that's actually a good way to introduce Beta Ray Bill. Also then opens the door for Fantastic Four and X-Men.
I think it's more that the 'alternate costumes' that they've shown are all past iterations of stuff we've seen pretty close to an exact match, whereas cinematic shorthand would be clearly alternate costumes or hair or obvious details, the only variants are Pepper and Clint, and both of those still fit this timeline.
if we actually get Beta Ray Bill in MCU I'll fucking lose it
Fair, but I also feel like that's the kind of detail they wouldn't be allowed to brush over without some sort of explanation. Like, even Avengers reiterated that Cap was just thawed out of the ice. And Homecoming's opening basically recapped Spider-Man's hand in Civil War, for anyone who missed that one. We've known about the Quantum Realm involving some inter-dimensional time fuckery since the first Ant-Man, or at least since Doctor Strange. If that's indeed the key to all the timeline shit that appears to be going down, I guarantee there'll be at least one scene where Ant-Man has to explain it all in layman's terms to Tony or whomever, which, now that I think of it, would actually make for a pretty decent callback joke, considering how often Ant-Man 2 relied on "oh, that happened because *made-up technobabble with "quantum" in front of it*" as a crutch to explain away plot conveniences.
https://twitter.com/thomasp0003/status/1077377553097281536/photo/1 Far from Home Mysterio costume spoilers
Looks like Thor's outfit
I’m kinda bummed there’s no fishbowl helmet, but then again, we get to see more of Gyllenhaal’s face and who doesn’t want that?
I'm going to suspect that it may be CGI in order to give it a glow maybe
They did mention he has the Fishbowl helmet in the movie. Maybe it gets shattered or something.
Pretty sure the pic is based on leaked set photos, not an official drawing. Fishbowl is confirmed and I think the Cape was reported as purple instead of maroon, though it looked maroon in the set photos
MCU has been on point with helmets and headwear so far, I have faith they will do him justice. Maybe they're skipping the glass bubble and going for magically contained vapour instead
actors like to show their faces
Spidey and Mysterio are teaming up, so I'm guessing he's gonna get the fishbowl in the third act when he does some sort of heel turn.
Infinity War came out on netflix for those who didn't know some how.
Not in the EU I think
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Man, I really hope he has the fishbowl. Say what you want about the DCEU compared to the MCU, but Aquaman had exactly no "haha isn't this comic book stuff silly and weird haha look at their silly costumes haha see we're in on the joke too haha" humor and fuck me it was refreshing to see a villain in a big retarded outfit played totally straight in a comic book movie again. I love the vast majority of the MCU, I think Infinity War was this generation's Empire Strikes Back, but Marvel's reliance on self-aware humor and "modernizing" Silver Age comic book designs is getting old. You can reinterpret characters like Vulture and have it work out nicely, but if you're not gonna commit to the whole "jilted special effects artist cosplays as an alien wizard with fog machines and robot henchmen" thing, why even pick Mysterio? Like, Chameleon and Taskmaster are right over there if you want a villain who doesn't cast imaginary spells by shouting Rolling Stones lyrics in latin.
I'm not going to lie, Ironman's MCU suits had such a huge impact on me it made me forgot how it used to look like this. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/132767/465ee4e2-a35e-46ea-b917-5772322c0dd3/image.png
It's honestly stunning how much the movies revolutionized the design and character of Iron Man. Like, the only other example of a movie taking the comic book source material and running with it in a direction that 100% enhances the whole shebang is maybe Guardians of the Galaxy, but even then most people just take the surface level "OOGA CHAKA OOGA CHAKA EPIC 80'S REFERENCE DANCE OFF BRO" stuff. Like, Iron Man felt like such a nobody until that first movie came along and made the concept of a drunkard in a robot suit look really fucking plausible while also looking really fucking cool.
I thought his nanobot suit in Infinity War was too big of a leap in tech.
Regarding the nanobots, I think it would've been easier for us to suspend our disbelief if we had seen Tony develop them onscreen. We bought the original Iron Man suit, because we saw him think through its design and work out its kinks. We bought the fact that the suit could locate him, because we saw him test the technology in Iron Man 3. We never got that with the nanobots. He had that fancy glove in Civil War, but by Infinity War he somehow had an entire suit that could change its form at will. No explanation, no struggle, nothing. It just exists now. Granted, there wasn't really time for it. Civil War, Homecoming, and Infinity War had no room for a ten minute sequence of Tony developing a new leap in technology. I still think a line or two to (vaguely) explain how the nanobots work or how they're produced would've helped make the suit feel more like a tangible item. As it stands, it kinda feels like he's wearing a metal symbiote.
Technically it's explained by the ending of Black Panther, as Wakandan tech.
It just makes Wakanda tech look like a joke if the best they can do is the panther suit and Tony just comes along and makes a Thanos defying suit off screen, including a probably superior spider suit while he's at it...
I don't really mind it, it's not a detail that stuck out to me, though I do notice it now. Otherwise this is exactly what I was gonna say, if we'd had more moments to play up the gimmick (and I don't use that word in a bad way), we could've had some fun scenes Think flight tests in IM1, maybe Tony's trying to get the nano suit to dodge, so he sets up the shop robot with an air cannon to shoot a basketball at him or some shit. It fires at his head, and the suit dodges, but only the suit, and the ball hits him square in the face
Feels kind of like a cheap explanation though.
They could've shown him in a lab working on it during Homecoming, they certainly had the opportunity.
At least nanobots do fix one problem he seems to face in every film - every time one part of his suit gets damaged or destroyed, he needs to get it replaced. Like when parts of the Hulk Buster were torn off, another back-up piece flew down. But what if he's too far for that? Nanobots rebuilding are a good solution and a logical progression from that. The MCU just needs to have presented that instead of jumping to the end.
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