Marvel Cinematic Universe thread: Worse numbering than IMs suits edition
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It's a shame really, I can't see it being the worst thing in the world for Disney to admit they were wrong and hire Gunn back. It'd be a real shame for the Guardian's series to disappear over this.
Or worse, keep going without the same flare and charm as the first two films.
Once the Fox deal is done there won't really be any fallout from hiring him again. The problem is that Gunn is moving on to the Suicide Squad sequel so he might not have time anymore.
That's not how disney's politics work.
Why should I care about this when it's just gonna get cancelled
A show that knows its going to end is usually better, I just hope the writers knew that the show was getting the axe before going to work.
This would be my biggest worry. The MCU has dealt with minor changes before but an entire 'series' I guess getting changed up might not be the best thing.
@Solokiller I'd really love for them to owe the Fox deal and then rehire Gunn. But big companies like Disney don't often go back on changes. Though I'd love to be wrong about that.
no one wants another ironman 3.
why not
Like I love Taikia Waititi and Adam McKay directed Talladega Nights, so I guess he's cool, but I don't want anyone even attempting a Guardians movie who isn't James Gunn.
If they want to make it about Sylvester Stallone and his old team of Guardians, sure. Nova? Go for it. But the default team of Guardians is so ingrained into who James Gunn is as a person and a filmmaker, I honestly don't think anyone else could do it. It's like how they kept making Robocop movies without Paul Verhoeven. You will never ascend to the heights of the original guy's vision, ever. You won't even come close.
Of course Disney doesn't give a fuck about artistic integrity beyond the amount of money it brings in, so they'll slap literally whomever on to do Guardians 3, 4, 5, and 6, but I'd honestly rather the whole thing end as a duology than continue on as "those two amazing movies and that pretty decent third part that feels off". Even the Russos knew to bring on James Gunn to help with the GotG stuff in Infinity War, because he's just that ingrained in who those characters are and how they work. No one else could do it in a way that doesn't either feel totally wrong or like a cheap emulation, unless they let like, his brother or Bradley Cooper or whomever to do it, and even then I don't know.
Well, we know a little bit now since Feige was at the Golden Globes.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/01/07/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-update-james-gunn-suicide-squad-2-kevin-feige/
Still postponed, but definitely still happening, and he wishes all the best to Gunn working on Suicide Squad 2.
missed the mark, lost the charm and was carried only by its relationship with the MCU.
its a completely meh movie with the worst posible evil plotwist.
while 3 did have an ultimately weak villain, so do most marvel films, but that twist, you don't get in any of them. that's not reason enough to make the movie good, but i think it's undeniable that it got creative in other parts too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2oNwxYO2AQ
i quite like the gadgets tony has to come up with, and the part where he's waiting for the suit's parts to show up. plus it gets points for a not-completely-unbearable child actor
its still safer to asume Iron Man as a standalone franchise ends at 2.
Nothing in 3 is really remarkable.
not even the stinger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhyIWcWkScg
I loved the theme that plays during the credits. I listen to it and it makes me think of what my ideal Iron Man 3 would have been. Real mandarin, world traveling, almost James Bond - like feel. Something reminiscent of the 90s cartoon.
Can You Dig It is such a good theme, but it feels out of place with the more grounded movie we got.
https://youtu.be/OxL1p99EVCQ
They should have used this after-credits scene to tease Ultron as Tony's alternative to destroying his suits (leaving an AI to protect the world in his stead).
"its not like i'm going to accidentally going to create a megalomaniac AI with it, am I"
It does let Tony become something more as a heroic character rather than just a rich dude in a suit who thinks he can fix the world all by himself. It’s a simple thing, but it’s something the second movie really missed.
Plus it’s still a fun Shane Black movie.
I feel like my issues with Iron Man 3 are indicative of a lot of my issues with Phase 2 as a whole.
Like, it goes for some really ambitious things that are completely and totally ignored and retconned in future movies, because no one at Marvel was talking to one another. Like, it ends with Tony Stark straight-up retiring and blowing up all his suits, and then we never talk about it ever again. The next time we see Iron Man he's got more suits than ever and is flying around with the Avengers. It's the same as how they completely ignored all of Cap and Widow's development after Winter Soldier.
And then they do the Mandarin twist, which I liked. But then they amended it with that short that was like "well, there is a REAL Mandarin out there, and he's mad Guy Pierce stole his name", which I don't really respect, but also cool, we'll get comics-accurate Mandarin. And then they never did anything with it.
Like you've got Iron Man 2 that introduced War Machine and Black Widow and tied into the whole "Fury's Big Week" thing with Hulk and Thor, whereas 3 felt very isolated from the rest of the MCU aside from the connections to Avengers. I've seen Iron Man 1 and 2 dozens of times, but haven't seen 3 since the theaters. It always rubbed me as the black sheep of the Iron Man trilogy, and I blame that on the change in directors, the pressure of following (up to that point) the biggest MCU movie, and that they had no goddamn clue what to do with Iron Man after Avengers (since they didn't really settle in on the whole "wannabe martyr who consistently fucks up again and again and again until Thanos gets here" thing until Age of Ultron).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX33bIOA5aA
Really goes to show how far good editing goes. Despite being a lot of footage we've already seen, this is the first trailer to actually make me think 'this looks pretty good'.
There are some perfect dialog and character scenes, and then there's the rest of the movie, which wile it isn't offensive or brain damaging, just aren't all that great.
I myself urged my friends to watch Iron Man 3 because the Mandarin was going to be featured as the main villain.
You can guess the rest.
I don't think it was just the Fox investors they were worried about. They were also worried about Agent Orange, given that his justice department derailed the Comcast/Time Warner merger for no other reason than because Time Warner owns a 24 hour news station (CNN) that he hates. Even if the controversy had largely disappeared, the alt-right would have never let it go, which means it would have eventually found its way to the commander and chief.
It is a follow up tweet to this tweet chain:
https://twitter.com/CydonPrax/status/1081314709221961728
https://twitter.com/WDWThemeParks/status/1081322076022235143
https://twitter.com/RobertIger/status/1081645101418373120
He is most likely shit posting.
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