Marvel Cinematic Universe thread: Another thread bites the dust - Film, Television and Music

Pretty sure they just had to exist back where they were taken from. Not sure how you can be confused by the fact he went back in time and chose to live out his life. It's called aging.

I guess the bit I wanted confirmation on was doesn’t that mean there were two captain America’s the whole time? one with Peggy and the one we watched in all the films? then the one we know goes back in time and the old one is left?

Yeah, past Steve was stuck on ice and lived out the movies while future Steve lived a quiet life with Peggy, staying the fuck away from any superhero business (he knows everything will be alright in the end, and probably doesn't want to risk fucking things up as one man with at most a Shield) until that last moment when he waited patiently for this younger self to not return. TECHNICALLY you can also say there were three of them existing in the first Avengers but that's besides the point hahah.

Woops, thought I had. Sorry folks.

Wait, I'm confused. When does Spiderman Far From Home take place in relation to Endgame?

The logical assumption is that everybody in Peter's class and/or relevant characters on the Spider-Man cast got snapped, so everybody picks up where they left off five years later and tries to pretend that nothing ever happened.

Also, I just saw this mentioned, Peter's passport in the trailers is missing years.

Ah yes,Steve and Sharon kissing is just a typical uncle-niece bonding.

Just booked my ticket for Saturday night. Now to be super paranoid about everything on the internet until then. Even opening this thread is like navigating a minefield.

Is it weird if I find the shockingly low body count disappointing? For such a show-closing, high-stakes, grand epic of a film, the fact that we get a grand total of two deaths on the heroes' end that actually matter feels weak.

I managed to plan it with my friends (we went all together for IW last year), at the cost of going Sunday. I've been starting to browse the usual sites less and less now. You should really avoid YT as well.

Whatever it takes.

nahh. This isn't GOT and everyone got their own form of closure. What did people think of thor in this one?

Strange picked the future that had the best ending. Though i would've liked to see the one where he tells Nebula to turn off whatever caused her memories to be shared.

I've enjoyed the much slower pace, character focused first half of the movie. It's something you don't see that often in Marvel movies (In fact, some people are saying this movie is bad just because they wanted explosions and epic fights, which made me realize why we don't deserve stuff like this). There's a very intense buildup for the last fight, and it pays off. I knew that all the characters would come back yet i felt so hyped watching the portals opening. Oh and when Captain America raised Thor's Hammer, there was a general "gasp" in the movie followed by clapping. Man, I want to see it again just for that scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM_QJkD-Mr8 Am I a dumdum for spoilering Fortnite actually appears in the film?

i know it's a cartoon superhero movie, and i know any movie with time travel is going to have plotholes, and 99% of them don't matter because it's just supposed to be a fun movie, but why doesn't anyone in the film acknowledge the fact that they have time travel now, they can bring back tony. they have more pym juice and a time machine. they could pop in and out at literally any character's death to get them back. i feel like they should have given a reason why they can't just do this, because i realise the actors probably don't want to come back and this is the best way for them to exit the franchise and rob is getting too old for it. but in a movie with time travel, i feel like they needed a good reason why any character has to stay dead. i'd be happy with anything. if there's something i missed that explains this i am happy to be corrected

It wouldn't be them. The movie even addresses it with Gamora. Sure, taking them from a moment before their death would make them effectively the same person, but it's not "their" version of that person. "Their" Gamora and Tony are both dead.

I get that, but if I understand correctly, you can't change the future by changing the past, your timeline is still your timeline. So if you for example went and grabbed black widow before she jumped off the cliff, you're getting close enough to the real thing. They seemed okay with doing this with Gamora. Why not just grab a pre-death Tony? Also Doctor Strange implied they're in the only possible timeline that defeats thanos. So if you went and removed a Tony from the past, it's fine because you're bringing him into the only successful timeline, you haven't damned another timeline to failure, it was already a failure?

Strange's Time stone was destroyed by Thanos, remember? And Tony died by using the stones, which probably makes him exempt from any Time stone-based resurrections. Yes, i know Thanos undid the destruction of the Mind stone but that's a different story. The Mind stone was destroyed by someone using powers created using the Mind stone, not another stone. Also if you reversed time you'd probably reverse the Snap Tony did as well and bring back Thanos in the process.

[sp] Is Red Skull a known figure in the Marvel Universe? Like, does the general public know of him and his involvement in WW2? Because if so, Black Widow and Hawkeye coming face-to-face with him would be liking coming across fucking Goebbels during your cosmic spirit quest, right? It'd be pretty fucking awkward. Also wish we got a scene of Cap meekly handing the stone back to him during his round-trip back, just as awkwardly unsure of why he's there as everyone else. [/sp]

it WHAT

Just back from the movie AAAAAAAAAAAA that is all.

Most surprisingly, I'm going to watch Endgame this very ending. Aside from hoping Thanos will live up to what he did in The Infinity Wars and finally wear that fucking armor, I really don't know what to expect

Is there an explanation that I missed for why they couldn't just go back in time a few weeks to before Thanos destroyed the stones, and just snatch the completed infinity gauntlet before he destroyed it? I don't like nitpicking but this really stood out to me and confused me during the film as to why they had to go through the process of tracking all the stones down individually when they had all been together like three weeks ago

WHERE WAS GOOSE

Thanos could've just used the stones against them. Even weakened it's just a snap and they all turn to dust.

eating the xmen

So, I watched the movie. I have several questions, since, you know, everyone knows that inserting any kind of trime travel in your fiction is prone to cause issues aplenty left and right, but there's one question in particular I'd like to ask. What's exactly the deal with Loki (meaning his Avengers the First timeline incarnation)? The last we see him he manages to snatch the Tesseract away and disappear? Where did he go, exactly? Did the Tesseract allowed him to dislocate himself to a different timeline, and not a different space, like we saw the artifact doing in the past? If that Loki has disappeared and escaped custody, doesn't that mean the timelines related to the Avengers the First movie, and perhaps the "main" timeline, has been altered somewhat, despite the implications at the end of End Game that everything actually went smooth and all timelines weren't changed at all in the long run?

Just got back myself and yeah, that occurred to me too. Best guess, [Big spoilers, holy shit!] that's how he's getting his own TV show on Disney +. There's a few other timeline oddities, like Thanos' whole army coming to the future from 2014. I guess the Ancient One's answer is that those timeline splintered off (and to be fair, the one without Thanos army has got it made now.) And I suppose the answer for what happened to Steve at the end is he just stayed out of it all and we're to believe that he's always been the unnamed man Peggy was married to.