Marvel Cinematic Universe thread: Another thread bites the dust - Film, Television and Music

It has to be. There's no way Wandavision (or hell, Falcon and the Winter Soldier) are taking place before Infinity War/Endgame.

They could do a whole movie on Cap's time travel adventures. It must have awkward as hell when he met Red Skull while returning the Soul Stone.

"Rogers, Son of - oh shit"

So, Red Skull when speaking to Nat, Ghamora and Thanos said "Son/Daughter of 'father's name", but with Clint he said "son of mother's name", apparently that might be a reference to the comics where his father was an asshole, so he preferred his mother. This is third party info, I don't know anything about Hawkeye in the comics.

In regards to the Vision talk, I believe in the comics Vision was killed/destroyed and rebuilt. But when he came back he didn't have the memories or exact personality as before. If they are rebuilding him in the MCU they might take a bit from that. I could be remembering wrong though. The comics are CRAZY.

If Vision gets rebuilt, but is emotionless/doesn't remember things, that would seem way too close to new Gamora's situation for my liking. Also, even though not many died throughout this, I liked that pretty much everyone that did stayed dead (Gamora notwithstanding, as her return was so tightly integrated with the plot and Nebula's character arc. Character return can be fine if it serves the story, and isn't just a generic return to status quo.)

So you may know that in the Ironheart comics there's an AI of Stark, literally made as a copy of his mind. This is actually the third model of such an AI but that's another story. Stark is alive but in a coma at this point. Could such an AI already exist at Tony's house, and Morgan will find it someday? While that may conflict with RDJ being "done" with Marvel, that would be a good way to see Tony's legacy in some form.

I always expected him to show up as a very, very retired mentor, due to extreme injury or something. An AI version would fit that role.

He would probably be the first AI we see as a physical hologram, because we have never seen Jarvis (the AI) or Friday as a human in the MCU. I think seeing Tony and Friday together would be a neat little dynamic, but who knows? We may never see Friday again.

Dude, totally the same. He's out looking at the birds and everything explodes in his face. I said "Holy shit they fucking killed AntMan just now!!

Also he somehow managed to shrink himself during all that

I feel like the movie needed just one more "villian has the upper hand" twist after Thanos' ship travels through the time machine. I feel like I was waiting for him to pull yet another game changing move when arriving but all he does is basically attack and then attempt to do the exact same thing he did in the last movie; despite having new information on his success/death. Then not only that but the final resolution to defeating the bad guy is one character literally running up and yanking the stones out of his hand? Like that's it? that's all they needed to do? Yank the stones out of his hand while he's conscious? I dunno, the movie was great but it really fell apart for me at the end. I'm all for wrapping up the emotional sides of the characters but I feel like the main driving force of the plot needed more work. I mean, the main cast has absolutely no interaction with Thanos prior to him just showing up in the future timeline. If you're going to end with Thanos they way they did, they should have established a different character to take up the villian role (perhaps a prior villian given valuable information on the future timeline) and then do the bait and switch with the spaceship and giant war. While the battle certainly was cool and called back to literally everything, the plot was missing that PUNCH. Where the stakes are at their highest. I think the scene in Infinity War where Thanos snapped himself into the red void was honestly jaw-dropping; I had no absolutely idea where the movie was going. I feel that was missing from the end of this movie (it was really engaging through the middle, definitely). It just wrapped up very simply with very little spice in the HOW it wrapped up. Nebula infiltrated the base, sent some coordinates and then boom; big battle. Absolutely loved theRobert Redford cameo and everything to do with the Avengers revisit, they definitely set up future Marvel content in the alternate universe. Loki with the tesseract, Hydra existing in a reachable timeline somewhere for potential revisit, etc..,

I watched and spotted him quickly shrinking down as the explosion hit him and get launched backwards.

The stakes is high this time, because he sees that in the future no one didn't appreciate his resolution of cutting half of population and leaving the rest to grow/evolve of it, instead he goes "fuck it, they don't like it? I'm killing everyone then!"

How much you wanna bet the Black Widow movie is a prequel about spy shit, maybe how she meets Hawkeye, but then the post-credits scene is her waking up on Vormir. Cap helps her up. "We won."

Wanda is totally stronger than Danvers imo.

Wanda's a glass cannon but Sharon is a flying brick. Wanda ends up being more interesting in a fight because she can solo just about anybody, but she's also weak to someone just, like, shooting her with a gun. Carol's entire appeal so far starts and ends with "SHE GOT THE BIGGEST NUMBER CAN PUNCH SO HARD".

Why would he do anything different, he saw that he won in the future. His death was irrelevant. His goal of wiping out half of all life is so fucking ingrained into the core of his being that him dying after it's complete is truly irrelevant to himself.

I feel that killing Hawkeye there would just waste the fact he’d be resurrected when Tony had the glove again

Can we give a shoutout to the real MVP in this movie? That fucking rat that nibbled on the quantum tunnel device. Without it, Lang would have never been able to come back and bring up the time travel idea.

I just hope future plans for the MCU involve the Fantastic Four. Has anyone announced what's going to be done about the X-Men? Disney bought these guys, it'd be a waste to you know. Never look at them again.

I like to imagine Silver Surfer's origin and Galactus aren't going to start either the MCU Fantastic Four begin or Guardians of the Galaxy takes a shot at it. That said; it makes me wonder where Eternity, Infinity and the rest of the Abstracts were doing when the Snap was happening. Can't imagine they'd be easy to represent in film if they appear at all.

The Abstracts seem to be just a little bit too hammy for the MCU. Maybe that will change now that the Stark/Cap era has ended but who knows.

Do half of them even do anything?

I mean, in the Infinity Gauntlet comics, the Abstracts all team up to fight Thanos but lose. Otherwise they do stuff that happens in the natural world, but with a name and personality. If they're not going to bring out Death for Infinity War, then they're not going to bring these guys up in the MCU. I figure the biggest entities we'll get are the Celestials, since they keep bringing them up and Marvel has an Eternals movie planned. Maybe Galactus, if they get their Fox properties integrated.

She really doesn't even have that in the comic, she's just a seasoned vet, pretty smart, and a conservative that somehow flanderized into a racist sexist terf thanks to a couple of no talent writers.The MCU's problem is they've in-conflated her to superman + wonder woman + Firestorm and pretty much removed any stakes from her at all short of thanos level villainy, Thanos is a big deal because he IS a big fucking deal and the MCU team that turned her into flying squirrel girl have literally removed any reason to watch her on the screen, she's just going to win every time the way they're currently framing her, and Brie Larson simply doesn't have the acting chops to do visceral drama. Galactus and Annihilus are inevitable. They raised the stakes very hard with IW Thanos, and even EG Thanos didn't measure up. Galactus is a literal oh shit button, ironically enough in killing Thanos they've removed one the few threats to him that exist. The obvious thematic choice is a 'villain' who just doesn't give the slightest fuck about your minutae, and you're not going to be able to death ray with a laser blue enough, so you're gonna need to strip his mechanations of destruction and then still literally talk or bluff him out of eating your shit wholesale.

Honestly what could possibly threaten earth anymore now that they can just go back in time, get the infinity stones, snap threats away then take them back over and over?

I'm thinking the next Doctor Strange movie will tell us.

[Endgame Spoiler]

[interview with Joe Russo on Endgame, SPOILERS] Old Man Cap was CGI of Chris Evans, just like pre-serum Steve.