• A Song of Ice and Fire /Game of Thrones Discussion V2: Winter Is Here
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I think this show has dive bombed so horribly, it passed the point of being infuriating, to being depressing. Like what's happening right now, is the same show that had the Battle of Black Water, The Red Wedding, The Battle on the Wall, Tywin Lannister's scenes, Ned Stark, Hard Home, etc. And now it's, this... Like i'm getting bummed out by how horribly it got squandered.
Euron's ambush was so fucking dumb. Literally all Dany had to do was fly BEHIND them and she could easily wipe out that fleet, but nope, apparently that's impossible.
So, where the hell were Dany and Co standing in that latest episode? https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/f/ff/S05E06_-_King%27s_Landing.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170313212331 We can only assume that she would, for some reason, be standing in the area obscured by the trees in that shot. But it doesn't really look like the same location at all. Pretty minor detail, but the surroundings of Kings Landing have become more and more abstract and strange as the show has gone on.
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I, i can't even... For fuck sake the wall looks like something in Essos in this episode.
Given how powerful the ballistas are shown to be, i see no reason why Cersei wouldn't order them to fire on the tiny army that's at the gates. Even if Drogon starts freaking out it's still better than letting Daenerys attack.
I had a dream last night after watching that Dany ends up complaining about the wage gap and pink tax in the next episode. I haven't read the leaks yet but maybe I'm onto something.
Honestly, I found the latest episode more boring than anything else. It's not like, after the events of last week, I can't enjoying a low fantasy political epic tale with no downright fantastic elements at all, but the issue here is that the world and the characters are so inconsistent at this point and the supposed shocks and plot twists are handled so abruptly that one has really no breathing room whatsoever and can only wait to see whatever the bloody point of this is going to be and, ultimately, who'll get on the Iron Throne in the end. As far as I'm concerned, the whole scene between Bronn, Jaime and Tyrion is the absolute worst of the whole episode and perhaps a great summation of the current state of this show: all the characters involved react and talk in ways that are completely detatched from the concrete context and, ultimately, the whole scene turns out to be completely pointless for anyone, to the point I wonder why dedicating so many minutes to such a, shall we say, sub-plot. I also have to note how we are two episodes away from the very finale of this whole show and the writers still haven't made up their damn mind about Jaime as a character
Was is intentional that the parley scene mirrored Season 1 so much? Tyrion literally makes the exact same proposal to Cersei that Ned Stark did, Tyrion should know Cersei way better than that. I actually expected her to say "when you play the game of thrones, you win or you die" in that scene
Man this new season is gonna rape and ruin the whole series.. god damn it. I feel like there is so much good and interesting dialog missing, characters are all around the place and everything just seems really strange and different compared to previous seasons. What did Imp and Bran talk about? Why did Imp tell Bronn "we are gonna ride south in the morning" when he was going on a boat and Jaime wasn't going anywhere. Actually this whole scene was just a huge letdown.. Jaime and Imp should be dead, seriously why not kill them? Bronn is gonna be winner anyway if he doesn't participate in the war. If all the Lannisters are dead who is gonna come after him? Why isn't Bran doing anything? He had visions of wildfire in season 6 but now when it could have been used against the night king but everybody just forgets it exists? Could be used now too to fuck up Cercei, also what about those catacombs and tunnels Imp and some others know about.. but yeah great just walk to the gate in front of huge ballistas and hope Cersei doesn't just shoot Daenerys and end the war.. killing a dragon was pretty easy so why not shoot a still target infront of your castle? Destroying huge fleet with wildfire was fine but not killing a competitor to throne with a ballista is not? Not even when she dares to come demand your surrender. Lets just provoke her instead and hope we don't get fucked up.. nice plan. Also what did Sansa and Arya say when Jon made them swear to keep the truth because they are family but then proceeds to say they actually aren't a family the way they thought? No wonder they didn't keep the truth Jaime and Brienne is just.. I don't even fucking know whats happening there anymore. And the way Jaime left? I just don't know..
they were max 100 meters away no way they're out of range of massive ballistae that can shoot a dragon out of the sky from a boat and a horde of archers that can just fire a volley of arrows into the sky and probably hit them. at the very least killing drogon with the scorpions would have been easy with him just sitting on the ground
varys carried the second half of the episode for me
I hate to say it but the show really has gotten dumb. It was never perfect but there were interesting twists and plot points and it felt like you didn't know what was going to happen, but now it feels like it's all playing out in the most simple, predictable way possible. I was really hoping for something more interesting for defeating the night king, than "oh he walks into Winterfell like a dumbass and gets stabbed". Plus fucking Euron, YET AGAIN showing up out of nowhere. I absolutely hate Euron in this show, he's a boring character who does nothing but impossible things for the sake of moving the plot along. The most obvious route to the end now is that Cercei will die(probably killed by Jaime), Dany is gonna go nuts and die (maybe killed by Jon) and Jon ends up on the throne. There was a time I wouldn't have been sure about anything but it doesn't seem they have it in them to do anything unexpected anymore. I'm still enjoying it, but a little disappointed.
So to add to this post, I went and looked at the new intro versus the old one, and yeah: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/185499/85f9bf47-e395-4dac-b9d8-f52c73421959/vlcsnap-2019-05-07-01h04m54s635.png They decided to move Kings Landing slightly I don't know why they would do this. Heres a picture of the Kings Landing intro from the earlier seasons to compare. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/185499/6b367458-eb72-42d2-9fea-5ca02c0c5592/vlcsnap-2019-05-07-01h06m00s313.png https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/185499/613afce7-9c50-4416-8145-f08eec71b5f6/vlcsnap-2019-05-07-01h05m14s129.png
Oh Mr.Martin I don't feel so good
Minor spoilers for S8E1: https://i.imgur.com/f0eecpZ.mp4
The season isn't upsetting me at all
To be completely honest, my love for the show has been slowly fading over the years, it's not like I didn't see the deterioration in quality coming as a possibility. The ending of season 6 was fucking incredible, but the last couple years I've basically only been going along for the ride to see how it finally wraps up, and it seems like the writers have been doing the same
Nothing corporate and packaged ever offends you, like it's a rather obvious trend, kinda like the way you never pick nuance or sarcasm, or the way you keep repeating the same blanket thing without justification or nuance and are utterly baffled when the "explanation" such as it is isn't conducive to conversation or topic advancement. #ForMeItWasTuesdayWithTuskin
It must've been the shows interpretation of the Old Gate based off maps like this. Also makes sense if they were marching in from the east from Dragonstone. http://i.imgur.com/rg27QuY.jpg Which I can only imagine are based off the books. It's also a rare Kings Landing scene where we can't see the Red Keep in the background.
As a side note, at this point I really must ask what was even the point with the direwolves in the show. I'm told that in the books the direwolves are slightly relevant because it's severely implied that all the heirs of House Stark have latent skinchanging abilities due to their family thousand years-old contact with the Wall and the land beyond, which are the main source of magic in all Westeros. In the TV series, though? I mean, after a certain point they were either (A) slained by someone or something without much fanfare or, worse yet, (B) basically forgotten and cast aside by their supposed dutiful masters
https://static.loverslab.com/uploads/monthly_2019_05/mord.jpg.5fba44197e1c397262aff113c3b20c0e.jpg the only hope i have left.
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he was the jail guard that watched over Tyrion when he was stuck in the Vale.
Yeah it's Mord, the guy who got rich after Bronn won the trial by combat. I thought he died or was assumed dead though. That was a long time ago...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka0gs4Oki_Y
You have literally the worst taste in anyone I've ever seen and buy stuff hook line and sinker.
Knew Missandei was about to get done in when I saw the holding hands scene. Character was kind of pointless at this point so can see past killing her off but it felt crammed in at the last minute.
She was a translator and nothing more. After they set sail, she was useless in Westeros.
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