• ASOIAF/Game of Thrones Discussion V3: A Song Of Ice Cubes and Fire
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Like in terms of tone, this episode is exactly what I've always expected from the series. Since literally the very beginning my expectation has been a "bittersweet" ending that doesn't end in a big party with peace, love, freedom, and democracy. The series has never been that, and the final episode captures that well enough. But it still leaves a lot of bizarre decisions, characterizations, and basically just narrative fuckery. They could have reached this ending so much better, done so much more with it to make it feel earned. So we got the kind of ending I expected but it absolutely doesn't feel like the show earned it.
>bran let dany genocide millions of people so he could be king
Wow. I was actually onboard with this season the whole way through. Felt it was rushed but still liked it. This just ruined everything for me. This will go down as the biggest let down of cinema history.
Seriously, how did nobody call him on that? The direct implication from Bran was that "Yeah, I orchestrated or otherwise allowed all this shit to happen just so I could rule the kingdoms." Great, just go ahead and let Daenerys lose her mind and ruin Jon's life then. Very decent of you, King Bran. Ugh.
...on a tangential note - now that the show's over, how long should we keep spoiler tags going for?
Is that what it means? I was always under the assumption that Bran got glimpses of the future here and there but couldn't just tell what the future was going to be at every moment of every day. I don't think it's reasonable to say he orchestrated/allowed the events that happened to go down. Also, him being king sort of clicks with me because when Tyrion was describing Bran as the story, as the memory of Westeros, I feel like what he was getting at is that since Bran knows the entire past, he won't be doomed to repeat it as others may be.
My suspicion is that you're on the right track, but that the show didn't adequately present this. And again, it's that line of his: "Why do you think I came all the way down here?" He KNEW he was going to be elected King, which means he saw enough of the future to determine how that would transpire. By implication, that means he knew the impact of Jon revealing his heritage to Daenerys, and the massacre that followed. While the show didn't come out and say it and in fact presented Bran as king would be a joyous thing...I think Bran might be legitimately evil, if in fact he knew what would happen and did nothing to stop it.
I'm genuinely surprised that Drogon survived. Then again, that was part of my theory that got butchered by the shit writing. In how the death of the dragons and what could've been the death of Bran would've sealed the faith of Magic in the World.
His "why do you think I'm here" line seemed to imply that he knew that he was going to be named king.
Brans powers are related to the weirwood trees which have been steadily declining especially in the south where the church of the Seven rules supreme. He can't see shit down there.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/800990260011174718/CF138598E6DB0CD5C50324CD24E91F5156EA0FC8/ Like that ever happened. What a load of- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jWHffIx5E
What a shitshow lmao I do gotta say Tyrion mourning Jaime and Cersei, Dany getting knifed and Brienne filling out Jaime's entry were all solid scenes tho.
Another part where logic jumped out the window: A couple scenes before Jon met Daenerys, he had to remove all his weaponry and hand it to an Unsullied so he could visit Tyrion in jail. And then, when he actually goes to confront Daenerys...there's no guards anywhere. Yeah, they had Drogon sleeping under a pile of ash, but where were the Unsullied and Dothraki? Not one for what appeared to be hundreds of feet! So Jon just walks right up to Mad Queen Dany, fully armed. Way to protect your Queen, idiots.
Also can someone explain to me why Sansa was just allowed to have the North be independent and why none of the other rulers on the council (including Yara that had verbally professed a desire for an independent iron islands) weren't like uhhh can we get in on that deal too
Adding to that, despite this election being "fair," the Starks just pulled a GIANT power play. Bran is the King of the Six Kingdoms, and Sansa is Queen of the North. The Starks literally rule fucking EVERYTHING. No way that can ever go wrong, right? Except for Jon, because he can get proper fucked, apparently.
I thought it was pretty meh compared to the awfulness that was the last 2 episode. Logic abandoned the ship at several points but the acting honestly was good enough to carry a lot of it for me (Tyrion finding Jaime and Cersei for example)
That's huge to me. The war of the five kings was there because as soon as a power vacuum exists everyone was willing to try and fill it and get their slice. Now i guess sansa just gets to pipe up and everyone is cool with it instead of characters like Yara that actually tried before rolling over even though she managed to take back the iron islands with nobody elses help and now she rolls over for a ti-84 calculator king that everyone accepts to be "smarter" therefor king. I agree with the final moments of this show just not how the show got there.
Good thing there was an actual cinematic ending sequence, for a second I thought it was going to end after the slow pull back from the awkward talk around the table in kings landing.
https://i.redd.it/25yf6rhlw9z21.jpg MAN did that kid grow up.
Milk made him strong like Tormund.
wow glad thats over
Holy shit I was supposed to realize that it was him? How long has it been on the show though?
I can't find the article but D&D specifically said they don't want people to think "Wow, glad that's over" after seeing the ending. Mission. Fuckin'. Failed.
I can't believe they fucked this up twice in a 6 episode season https://i.4cdn.org/tv/1558328385049.jpg
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/110547/0dde7aa4-9981-44ac-b8b6-ebad852e5852/1558328385049.jpg
Seriously Robin Arryn looking fine as fuck. And yeah, the North being independent despite a Stark sitting on whatever they're gonna replace the Iron Throne with is dumb and will only lead to an eventual war when whoever follows Bran as King/Queen decides that they want to rule over all of Westeros. I can abide Sansa ruling in the North, but not as Queen of an independent realm. Also, I object to Sam's statement that the people at the Dragonpit represent all the great houses. It's just more BS of the show wanting us to forget that there are other lords and ladies out there. That said, I thought the episode was about as good as it could be given the corner they wrote themselves into and what the leaks had revealed.
No one has mentioned this, how much of a cunt was Tyrion? lol your title is bran the broken now, you know since you're a cripple.
A six episode season that they took an extra year to make, at that. I know VFX takes a long time, but damn.
Alright guys, I'm watching the finale in some hours or so, but I'd like to know what do you th- ... ... OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE
oh my god is that who that was i get that keeping the same cast is clearly important to them but at some point good lord at least give us a re-introduction. i had no idea that was him and was so confused anyways for me at least it wasn't the total trainwreck i was expecting. i'm glad for that at least, but yea still left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth when it was all over. o well! that's all we're gonna get until GRRM finishes the novels in like a decade or two...
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