ASOIAF/Game of Thrones Discussion V3: A Song Of Ice Cubes and Fire
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I'll be honest, I wouldn't mind watching [sp]Arya's Bizzare Adventure in Yi Ti[/sp] as a spin off
So the horse Arya gets on last episode was pointless.
Just like this season
can't fucking believe that john wick 3 spoiled bronn's ending
.."I know a killer when I see one" bitch please
The more I think about it the more I come to the conclusion that the other kingdoms allowed the North its unbeliveable indipendence stunt because at that point they were fucking fed up with those Northeners bastards, with all their better-than-you attitude, remembering and fur clothing, so they took advantage of Sansa's bravado to remove them from their lives once and for all. And even if the king had to be yet another holier-than-thou bloody Stark as well, so be it.
considering dany had just burned down the entirety of kings landing yeah im sure anyone and everyone could tell she's a killer. what a corny line for them to write for arya
lol it's pointless for me to start listing what was straight up silly in this episode. r/freefolk on reddit is a great showcase.
Kind of sad that during the finale of GOT I felt nothing.
That would have been stupid
Why?
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bquw1t/i_cant_believe_got_just_ends_with_the_sept/
What an exhilarating finale!
So we're already complaining about things being overly-cyclical, so let's just go all in on that and make Jon an evil vengeful lich king just because? It's just not in his character, quite literally the only thing that could have made this finale worse would be making Jon the night king
To be perfectly honest, the very final political summit of the Westerosi (plus the remnants of a mad conqueress army with a lot of attitude, all things considered) is perhaps the greatest piece of television fiction ever produced. I think it should be preserved for the future generations or something.
My initial reaction to the finale's "big twist" is especially noteworthy:
[Tyrion is asked who would make a fine king in his opinion and he starts talking about the importance of stories]
"... 'The fuck is he talking about? What stories? What does he even mean by that? I really can't see what 'stories' have to do with any-"
[After some istant, something clicks inside his brain]
"[He erupts into a creepy, maniacal fit of laughter]"
Also, glad to see that Bronn was awarded a rather important nobility title (and the lands to match) even if the man displayed the tendency to play both sides of the conflict and attempted to assassinate, beat and blackmail the current Hand of the King literally two days ago. But hey, Tyrion was nice enough to let bygones be bygones, I guess.
He needed some character development at least 2 seasons ago. All he's been since the beginning of the series is the cool dude who gets sent left and right, does some heroic shit and avoids doing evil and makes plenty of friends along the way. Then his character was literally summarized in one sentence: "she's mah queen". He should have been lured by power like everyone else, because he had the most legitimacy to it, and he should have killed Daenerys because of it. Instead, in the last episodes, he just looks like the most confused person ever and kills his love in confusion. He should regret it either way, but just turning the technically most important character in the series into this was terrible. By turning into the Night King, he would have embraced his fate and have finally become the pivotal figure he always was supposed to become.
Its not good character development to just have a character go from one polar opposite to another. Jon goes from humble, caring, and uninterested in power to spiteful, angry and power-hungry? There has to be at least some part of this character he would become existing within him for the transformation to make sense.
Jon does a lot of things unlike him in the last seasons. Letting a foreign queen rule completely over the north and his brothers and sisters for instance. And he would have let the King's Landing massacre be without questioning it if Tyrion hadn't told him about alleged threats to his siblings. He stopped being straight as an arrow a while ago. It would have made sense that among all this self-doubt and existential crisis, he would have eventually snapped and be sick of being a pawn and serving as leverage.
Listen, if they had done this right you would have seen this change coming a while ago. But I'm not arguing for the fact that he would have completely changed overnight. This is how his character would have made sense to end, but obviously it shouldn't happen without warning, that's bad writing.
Jon had to go back to the North in a desperate attempt to return back to the old ways. The old ways where writing mattered, the times of GRRM.
"if they had done my fan fic ending right, you would have liked it!!" is a weird take. Your made up ending isn't any more fitting and "right" than anyone else's, or what we actually got.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/561354485184856069/566372009227845649/4ReqKsK.png
I am now Bran ... I can't feel anything.
D&D I hope Star Wars chews you out.
If you wanna be passive-aggressive about it for no reason, yeah sure. It was just an idea, sorry you hate those.
So I think it's pretty safe to say at this point that the true unsung hero of the last season is the Night King? He did everything in his power to not let this finale come to pass.
Yeah these memes are the best thing coming out of it.
Warning don't click the linked link if you haven't watched the final Season.
Some ok scenes in the final but that season as a whole is an absolute shitshow of an ending
I just love how tyrion goes from about to be executed to changing chosing the king and changing the succession system, within 3 sentences, because "Stories are powerful yo"
Lol script writers jerking eachother of or what. Wtf was that logic. Why is greyworm saying nothing while the guy he wanted to kill a minute ago is literally changing the political system.
God what a shit ending for jon and arya. They ruined so many characters to force their mad queen plot in. And it's like nothing changed in the end.
Congrats sans being independant means war is more likely in the future i hope ur happy.
The brienne scene was actually nice
Wait, what the actual fuck?! Apparently another piece I was missing from the finale was the Unsullied (and the Dothraki too perhaps, who the hell knows at this point) staging a successful military coup in King's Landing entirely off-screen, which allowed them to come into the summit to a position of relative strenght.
Is this true? 'Cause at this point I really can't say if I'm dumb as a pack of bricks and somehow didn't manage to follow the episode properly or if I may as well blame the showrunners about how hastly and downright chaotically the various events were depicted
no yeah this should have been an entire couple episode by itself and instead its two greyworm lines lol the ending is so fucking rushed.