Robot Wars 2016 - Rebuilt, Rearmed and Reactivated (Now 200% more Irish!) - Film, Television and Music

A short clip from this week's episode, be warned there is a potential spoiler on the fate of at least one bot in that heat: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04w3zv4[/url]

[URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04w72r3"]Another clip from the next episode[/URL] Spoilers, Obviously [sp]RIPP3D[/sp]

Okay so my predictions are: Eruption and Behemoth will go through but it will come down to a judge's decision between those two and Cobra. PP3D and Push to Exit will likewise go through. I would love to say Cherub would but it looks too small and light baring in mind who it is up against. But I hear great things about their driver so it will be a close one so in that regard it could go either way. So Eruption, Behemoth, PP3D, Push to Exit I don't think that one robot will outright dominate the episode, it will not be as clean as last time so I am going to say that Eruption will take it, but it is going to be very very close. EDIT: Okay, well, half right at least! [sp]Behemoth where robbed![/sp]

Okay so I'm watching episode 2 now that I have the chance and [sp]How in fucks name did Cherub win the fight vs PP3D? PP3D absolutely fucking demolished it with its "I'm going to fuck your shit, my shit, and the arena's shit with this blow" yet they still gave it to Cherub? They didn't even get any reasoning for it.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Fapplejack;51955068]Okay so I'm watching episode 2 now that I have the chance and [sp]How in fucks name did Cherub win the fight vs PP3D? PP3D absolutely fucking demolished it with its "I'm going to fuck your shit, my shit, and the arena's shit with this blow" yet they still gave it to Cherub? They didn't even get any reasoning for it.[/sp][/QUOTE] They don't need to. To be fair they where the more aggressive in that match even if they did very little real damage. But, if that was the reason then they should have lost their penultimate match as they where not as aggressive as the other bot. Who likewise did not do that much raw damage in that match but was still more controlling of the fight. I have a bad feeling they will get the wildcard too.

[QUOTE=Fapplejack;51955068]Okay so I'm watching episode 2 now that I have the chance and [sp]How in fucks name did Cherub win the fight vs PP3D? PP3D absolutely fucking demolished it with its "I'm going to fuck your shit, my shit, and the arena's shit with this blow" yet they still gave it to Cherub? They didn't even get any reasoning for it.[/sp][/QUOTE] [media]https://twitter.com/NoelSharkey/status/841222083669553152[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/NoelSharkey/status/841223193000062976[/media] Cherub won on control and aggression, as it constantly charged at PP3D and stopped the disc getting up to speed. PP3D only got one good hit in, and that did just as much damage to itself as Cherub. [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Chrisordie;51955128]I have a bad feeling they will get the wildcard too.[/QUOTE] Nah, what's probably going to happen is episode 5's heat final will be Carbide vs Apollo, and the loser of that fight will get the wildcard.

Fun fact: this episode's grand finals is currently the shortest televised Robot Wars match in history, beating out the previous record of six seconds by Gravity against Dantomkia.

[QUOTE=Y U NO OBJECT;51955134]Nah, what's probably going to happen is episode 5's heat final will be Carbide vs Apollo, and the lose of that fight will get the wildcard.[/QUOTE] Ah crap you are right. And the pain in the arse is that both could well deserve to be in the finals. I say could because we don't know how they will do in their heats.

Ah, i forgot this was moved to Film, Television and Music. I forgot the season started even. The second episode was a lot better than the first, at least.

[QUOTE=Fapplejack;51955247]Fun fact: this episode's grand finals is currently the shortest televised Robot Wars match in history, beating out the previous record of six seconds by Gravity against Dantomkia.[/QUOTE] ... i find that ironic considering it was the same team who then built cherub they beat their own record

[QUOTE=Highwind017;51965955] The second episode was a lot better than the first, at least.[/QUOTE] I don't know about that, really. Cherub just got every lucky break out there when it shouldn't have and besides PP3D fucking dying there weren't many "wow" moments. Sure Eruption going 4/4 in win by ring outs was cool but it wasn't as great as Aftershock ruthlessly mauling the everloving shit out of Sabretooth. Also this gives me an excuse to talk about all the shit Anthony Pritchard of the Behemoth team has been getting. The clip of him walking out of the judge results was taken out of context, then went viral. Several news outlets reported it as “The Fragility of Adult Emotion, Or: That Guy From ‘Robot Wars’ Losing His Bollocks Was Really Funny, Wasn’t It” and similar titles, despite the fact that he was mad over his team deciding to use the experimental crap clamp and not because he lost against children. He must be feeling so shitty right now and he doesn't deserve it.

Even with the crap clamp, I still think Behemoth were cheated. They controlled the whole fight, and it seemed they only were voted against because Cherubs wedge was lower than Behemoths. This being despite the argument shown above, in Noel's tweets, that cherub won against PP3D, for precisely the opposite - controlling the fight, not a weapon advantage. And then of course, both these decisions led to the most underwhelming Heat Final in Robot Wars history.

Technically not a spoiler as they record these bits with all the contests even if they do not make it out of the group battle or not but... THOR is back and he means business! [URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04wvcg3[/URL] EDIT: Okay so it went more or less as I thought it would go. Honestly, I don't think the wild card will come from this heat. No offence to them but they where not as impressive this time around. As for this week, I predict that, well, let us start with the easier to determine fight: Frostbite vs HIGH-5 vs Supernova vs Wyrm I predict that Supernova will go through for sure, the clip of it at the end of last week's ep' shows it is really powerful but of the remaining two, I think that Wyrm will get though. Not because they are good, or that they do the business and beat one of the other bots in that heat but simply as they will some how either be the least smashed up or they will some how bumble their way though. From Apex vs Crushtacean vs Ironside3 vs Pulsar, well Curshtacean is going out; I think that it is just going to get smashed and that it is frankly unfair to put it in a match with three spinners as powerful as those ones are. If Pulsar have solved the reliability issues from last series then they will go through. It is small and mighty but it has a vertical spinner where the rest have angled ones so as in the heats last time it may be able to K.O. one of the others getting there just in time. Apex and Ironside. Well if Apex gets up to speed... I hear that when it came to testing they had to test it in the main area rather than the smaller one they use because of how large and powerful its spinner can be. But with that in mind they had to do the same with Tauron apparently so take that as you will. So I think the heats will be Supernova vs Wyrm vs Pulsar vs Ironside Final will be Supernova vs Pulsar.

"I don't think there's ever been a plastic robot thats ever won robot wars" seconds later, totally fucked

Their armor was nothing; that is not me saying it was crap (though it was), their whole idea was that if they place their tech in the center of the bot with a lot of space surrounding it so if it takes an impact they won't loose it in one hit. Not a bad idea if your armor can actually withstand a hit... Oh and the stuff with Wyrm. Honestly if I where to build a bot it would almost certainly turn out the same way, wiring it up wrong and all.

Didnt even get to see the crab fire its weapons :(

Just look up a couple of clips of it from the old series for all you crab related pinching. Anyway, tonight is the big rematch of Apollo vs. Carbide!... Oh, and there other bots fighting to. Now let us pretend that one could not guess who would make it to the heats from the clips in each episode and take it bit by bit. Match one is: Apollo vs Coyote vs Ms Nightshade vs Rusty Well, by the fact they have been hyping Apollo vs. Carbide since the first episode we know that they will go through from their heats so that leaves Coyote, Ms Nightshade and Rusty. Ms Nightshade looks clumsy and kind of, well, limp to be honest. Rusty looks like a lame version of Chaos 2 crossed with Mace, I know it has battled by another name back in series 7 but I can easily see it just getting punted out if the arena Apollo soon as it comes near it. Coyote, looks like it can run both ways up which potentially negates Rusty and Apollo's weapons and as I think Nightshade's weapons look limp (and may well just not work after one use) it stands a good chance making it though simply because no one there can really hurt it. Carbide vs Crackers 'n' Smash vs Meggamouse vs Trolley Rage Carbide we know is going though and I am confident it will win the episode but that leaves Crackers 'n' Smash vs Meggamouse vs Trolley Rage. Crackers 'n' Smash is a cluster bot and due to changes to the rules this year BOTH bots have to be eliminated for it to be counted out (In the past only one would have needed to be killed for both to loose). So even if Carbide goes on a killing spree in the heat so long as one is alive it will go through. Which given Trolley Rage looks like Plunderbird 1 all be it a worse version of it and Meggamouse (whilst it apparently dose great on the live scene) it is more or less the same as it was in series 3 with Velocirippa and given the might of Carbide and potential of Crackers it is sadly going to snuff it. That gives us Carbide vs Crackers 'n' Smash vs Apollo vs Coyote. The heat final will be Apollo vs Carbide and Carbide will win.

Most of today's heat looks like a bunch of things that competed in series 1 and 2. It's so horribly stacked that there's next to no chance that Apollo and Carbide would be anywhere else but the final. Plus, whichever one doesn't win will probably get the wildcard since there hasn't been many stand out performances by runners up thus far.

To be fair though it only looks as though Thor and Cherub are at all operational after all that. [sp]Unless that footage of Apollo trying to lift Sir Kill-a-lot is not from a white board match or from a previous attempt to do so.[/sp]

Spinners are really killing this show for me. Don't get me wrong, I still love the series, but they really need to introduce some rules to put a damper on spinners. As it stands they just seem to be the fast track way to win every fight. Hell, the only robot without a spinner in this series' final is Eruption, and I'm mostly convinced they're there because the only spinners in their heat were Hobgoblin (Which went out in the first group fight) and PP3D (Which practically destroyed itself because it was so unstable.) Sure, spinners are destructive, but this is worse than the old flipper craze that happened when the series first started. Well-driven or unique robots simply have no chance against spinner bots because all a spinner has to do is face the attacker and be structurally sound enough to not tear themselves apart on impact. The amount of power competitors can squeeze out of modern motors is impressively insane, but it's just not fun. No robot can be expected to take the forces that these spinners are dishing out. It really kills the tension in fights. I'm not looking forward to the giant spinner-frenzy in this final. /rant

what happened to the old style robots? like, 101 and razer and typhoon and hypnodisc? i don't remember them being nearly as destructive (shunt's axe barely seemed to pierce most robots' armour),

[QUOTE=lintz;52059265]what happened to the old style robots? like, 101 and razer and typhoon and hypnodisc? i don't remember them being nearly as destructive (shunt's axe barely seemed to pierce most robots' armour),[/QUOTE] It's worth noting that new shunt is nearly three times heavier than the old one. His axe is probably far more powerful. Couldn't speculate on the old-style robots, though. I imagine they just can't contend with the super-optimized modern robots in today's show. I couldn't even see Razer holding off more than a couple of blows from Carbide.

[QUOTE=plecy;52058622]Spinners are really killing this show for me. Don't get me wrong, I still love the series, but they really need to introduce some rules to put a damper on spinners. As it stands they just seem to be the fast track way to win every fight. Hell, the only robot without a spinner in this series' final is Eruption, and I'm mostly convinced they're there because the only spinners in their heat were Hobgoblin (Which went out in the first group fight) and PP3D (Which practically destroyed itself because it was so unstable.) Sure, spinners are destructive, but this is worse than the old flipper craze that happened when the series first started. Well-driven or unique robots simply have no chance against spinner bots because all a spinner has to do is face the attacker and be structurally sound enough to not tear themselves apart on impact. The amount of power competitors can squeeze out of modern motors is impressively insane, but it's just not fun. No robot can be expected to take the forces that these spinners are dishing out. It really kills the tension in fights. I'm not looking forward to the giant spinner-frenzy in this final. /rant[/QUOTE] The "powered weapon" rule new robot combat shows have included recently to make matches more interesting prevents people from submitting fast and sturdy wedges, which inadvertently means that the counter to spinners like Carbide and Aftershock can't compete. Teams have to sacrifice armor to add on a lifting wedge or hammer or what-have-you, and a sturdy hunk of metal can reflect the force of a spinner back into the robot and damage it that way. It's still better than the late series before the reboot where everyone and their mother was a flipper bot because the arena heavily favored them.

Yeah but fuck flippers right? I mean, I hate flippers and I love it when fights last only 30 seconds after only one hit from a spinner. I mean why watch two robots right it out and matches being a test of both engineering and driving when we can have bots so powerful they can damage the audience and could well endanger the studio audience's safety as a result? Jokes aside I hear the producers are well aware of the dominance of spinners and are taking steps to encourage innovative designs and allow anti-spinner weapons to be used next serise. So, tonight is the night at long bloody last. Which of the four spinners will win? Or will they all but nullify each other and give us an actually interesting final? Okay, again, enough silliness. Lets just remind ourselves of who is confirmed in the final: Aftershock: Or rather Aftershock feat. Terrorhurtz as when they fought Aftershock struck Terror so hard that some of the metal from Terror's skirt has fused to it's spinner. It is the only vertical spinner which as we saw with Ironside Vs Pulsar in the last series that can be a fine counter. However it is a rather broad machine and if out maneuvered it as a defiant blind side. Also with no self-righter if it bounces off one of the other spinners or is flipped it could struggle to get back up. It managed it in it's group matches but that feels more like luck than judgment. Eruption: The only flipper unless Apollo gets though. Has a fine driver and if they can get in quick enough to deny the other spinners getting to speed it could do well. However sadly that means that it is going to be going Kamikaze in just about every battle and that is going to wear it down. The underdog of the finals. Concussion: It is a drum spinner. And not a terribly well armored one. It is going to need to be practically humping the other bots to do damage to them given the limited reach of such a weapon which means it is in more harms way than Eruption. Not a bad bot but I cannot see it winning the finals. Ironside3: One of two bar-spinners and in frank honesty the weaker of the two; it feels much more like a 'garage build' which is not a bad thing persay (Look at TR2 and how well that did) and it has a great time behind it with a lot of experience. It may get outclassed by some of the other spinners but if they are canny and ruthless they could do well. Carbide: As far as many are concerned it has won. And chances are it will win. It is a robot so efficient that it is frankly boring. However in it's heats it was never really tested with a real challenge and if it is it's reliability issues may come back again; we have never seen it really take any damage before be it with this version or the previous one -save for the damage done when it fell on it's own blade in the last war- and in this final there is a good chance that the final four may all be spinners and all it takes is one deep hit and it may struggle to cope with it depending on how serious that damage is. Given that we do not know even who is fighting who in the heats of this final it is hard to say what the final four will be [sp]But when the Beeb started to upload recaps of the previous battle the thumb nail in the first one was initially of Eruption and Carbide in the arena together so at some point they will meet up[/sp]. But, unless something goes wrong Carbide will be in the final and I will quietly sob as it doing so puts the contest at a level that my plans of building a bot for it one day become next to impossible. Speaking of depressing the wild card! Which of the two and a half remaining bots will make it to the final? Sabretooth, Cherub, Thor, Pulsar & Apollo Sabertooth is now a pile of scrap, Pulsar has no spares left, Apollo was fixed after it's final match as it turns out the reason the flipper was hanging off like that was because it the hinge that held it up snapped but lets face it hardly set the world on fire, Cherub never actually won a fight (at least not from a knock out) and Thor by the process of elimination is the only viable option unless they are either wildly over estimating how battle ready Pulsar and Apollo are or they just want to sacrifice a bot to make up the numbers in which case they go with Cherub and it is either drop kicked by one of the spinners or punted out by Eruption. I'd go for Thor personally and put it in the same heat as Concussion for the sake of "OOooh a REMATCH! Oh how dramatic". And have the heats as: Heat 1: Aftershock, Carbide, Eruption Heat 2: Ironside, Concussion, Wildcard But hell, the producers of this show have never been that bright so Christ knows.

mate, you are way too into this glad carbide won, they deserved it. they deserved the win last series too tbh.

Hehe, sorry, given how inactive this thread can get I worried that I'd do my snide comment on spinners then fold my theories into that so I just vomited it all out in one post! And yeah, they deserved to win, I just hope that next series we have a little more variety in the final like we did last time. If it boils down again to flipper vs spinner whatever, just so long as it is not just a series of one hit battles.

i feel like they should reduce the limit for weaponry spinners are just absurdly powerful

Oh don't worry, next series the bots are aloud to be fitted with ensnarement devices and anti-spinner weapons so now a bot can throw a bike chain into a spinner to gum it up and stop it spinning. I cannot see that failing or damaging a bot beyond repair.

[QUOTE=Chrisordie;52116594]Oh don't worry, next series the bots are aloud to be fitted with ensnarement devices and anti-spinner weapons so now a bot can throw a bike chain into a spinner to gum it up and stop it spinning. I cannot see that failing or damaging a bot beyond repair.[/QUOTE] I can't see that stopping Carbide though. I can't think of anything stopping it, beyond an even better motor with an even heavier spinner.

if they jam or dislodge the chain on carbide nothing can stop it eruption had several chances to flip carbide in the final but missed the opportunity