DC Television Megathread - The House That The Arrow Built
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[sp]Wait, how are they gonna bring Sarah back? through going back in time stuff? What about Laurel?[/sp]
I'm rather confused.
[QUOTE=kweh;47724009][sp]Wait, how are they gonna bring Sarah back? through going back in time stuff? What about Laurel?[/sp]
I'm rather confused.[/QUOTE]
[sp]She gets Lazarus'd in the trailer, Sara is White while Laurel is Black.[/sp]
-oh nvm you already posted the YouTube link-
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[QUOTE=Takuat;47724023][sp]She gets Lazarus'd in the trailer, Sara is White while Laurel is Black.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]and they said they won't use the Pit on fan-favorites. HA[/sp]
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but really, this looks just awesome
also [URL="http://puu.sh/hNa4s/716b2f590d.jpg"]guess who is in the "chair of time"[/URL]
[QUOTE=RocketRacer;47724062]also [URL="http://puu.sh/hNa4s/716b2f590d.jpg"]guess who is in the "chair of time"[/URL][/QUOTE]
[sp]Dr. Wells. He's wearing the Reverse Flash suit.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Rats808;47724414][sp]Dr. Wells. He's wearing the Reverse Flash suit.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]In other words my avatar[/sp]
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I wonder the reason behind it, though. Will it be in the [sp]very last moments of the finale, where they will show him getting in that chair and doing something?[/sp]
I never liked how Cold talked. It just sounds weird. Way he drags on words/syllables
Is that the actor, or the character?
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Really though, this thread needs to be renamed. "All DC Shows... Except Gotham. And Supergirl"
Or just "The CW's DC Series"
Gave up on Gotham. Finally started enjoying Arrow again towards the end. Flash never failed to disappoint.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;47724669]I never liked how Cold talked. It just sounds weird. Way he drags on words/syllables
Is that the actor, or the character?
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Really though, this thread needs to be renamed. "All DC Shows... Except Gotham. And Supergirl"
Or just "The CW's DC Series"[/QUOTE]
I think the actor just like making Cold as cheesy as possible. This was playing in the bar scene on Flash this week.
[video=youtube;g_1XdSqBQUg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_1XdSqBQUg[/video]
[QUOTE=Tuskin;47724669]I never liked how Cold talked. It just sounds weird. Way he drags on words/syllables
Is that the actor, or the character?
[editline]14th May 2015[/editline]
Really though, this thread needs to be renamed. "All DC Shows... Except Gotham. And Supergirl"
Or just "The CW's DC Series"[/QUOTE]
Less annoying than Heatwave imo, which looks deranged, mad and obcessed with fire 100% of the times, at a constant 150-200% "level of madness". Always liked Cold's actor anyway. Not that I didn't like Heatwave's, but he puts out a somewhat exaggerated performance here imo.
What about the Golden Glider? Love the way she fools around with Cisco :v:
[QUOTE=kweh;47725272]Less annoying than Heatwave imo, which looks deranged, mad and obcessed with fire 100% of the times, at a constant 150-200% "level of madness". Always liked Cold's actor anyway. Not that I didn't like Heatwave's, but he puts out a somewhat exaggerated performance here imo.
What about the Golden Glider? Love the way she fools around with Cisco :v:[/QUOTE]
if I remember correctly Heatwave is like that in New52 at least because, well, he doesn't use a gun, he was completely burnt and he attacks with fire from his torso which he has a suit for.
[QUOTE=Takuat;47724023][sp]She gets Lazarus'd in the trailer, Sara is White while Laurel is Black.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Yeah I saw in the LOT trailer.
Not really mad about it, always liked her anyway, but had no idea it STILL had such an effect after like what, a bunch of months after kicking the bucket?...
How is the "rest" gonna handle the news, IF they even know about it... (to avoid spoilers and because I am lazy to do the tags)
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[QUOTE=RocketRacer;47725285]if I remember correctly Heatwave is like that in New52 at least because, well, he doesn't use a gun, he was completely burnt and he attacks with fire from his torso which he has a suit for.[/QUOTE]
Oh, thought it was just an exaggerated role. It's not bad anyway. It's a cool duo.
Where would Arrow and The Flash go from now?
I guess The Flash has a lot of places it can go from here but... What about Arrow, since Ollie is... happy?... :|
Btw, have the writers forgotten about Hive?
[QUOTE=kweh;47725287]Yeah I saw in the LOT trailer.
Not really mad about it, always liked her anyway, but had no idea it STILL had such an effect after like what, a bunch of months after kicking the bucket?...
How is the "rest" gonna handle the news, IF they even know about it... (to avoid spoilers and because I am lazy to do the tags)
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Oh, thought it was just an exaggerated role. It's not bad anyway. It's a cool duo.
Where would Arrow and The Flash go from now?
I guess The Flash has a lot of places it can go from here but... What about Arrow, since Ollie is... happy?... :|
Btw, have the writers forgotten about Hive?[/QUOTE]
HIVE is exactly what next season is about, that's why they were setting it up with Ra's talking about Damian and the Suicide Squad episode.
And yeah I wanna know how they're gonna deal with the [sp]Pit[/sp] rules since they haven't been clearly established here.
Oh, nice then! Hopefully Ollie will continue to be happy and more "super-heroey" like in the comics where each hero has its own brand of humor.
IMDB Says [sp]Ror.. I mean Rip Hunter is going to be in Flash next week[/sp]
Arrow S4 spoilers
So [sp]Green Arrow confirmed for next season kinda. Although the way he says it isn't a "Yeah I'm now going by Green Arrow now", it's sounds more facetious[/sp]
[sp]"Arrow is done," he revealed. "No more Arrow suit. I've worn it for the last time."[/sp]
[url]http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/arrows-stephen-amell-reveals-oliver-queens-future[/url]
[QUOTE=Takuat;47731636]Arrow S4 spoilers
So [sp]Green Arrow confirmed for next season kinda. Although the way he says it isn't a "Yeah I'm now going by Green Arrow now", it's sounds more facetious[/sp]
[sp]"Arrow is done," he revealed. "No more Arrow suit. I've worn it for the last time."[/sp]
[url]http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/arrows-stephen-amell-reveals-oliver-queens-future[/url][/QUOTE]
But.. [sp]The Legends Of Tomorrow trailer..[/sp]?
[QUOTE=Dissolution;47732011]But.. [sp]The Legends Of Tomorrow trailer..[/sp]?[/QUOTE]
[sp]Could be footage specially filmed for the trailer? Again, the way he said it was kinda jokey, he might have just been kidding and CBR took it out of context[/sp]
[QUOTE=Dissolution;47732011]But.. [sp]The Legends Of Tomorrow trailer..[/sp]?[/QUOTE]
That footage was filmed for the trailer, they may not have had any of the new stuff ready.
I wonder how Captain Cold is gonna join the team when [sp]he just betrayed Flash in a huge way this last episode. I don't think Flash is going to be very eager to make that mistake twice.[/sp]
I'm sure it will be explained next season.
Legends of Tomorrow doesn't air until 2016, so depending on when in 2016 there is either half a season or a whole season before its out.
All these spin-offs are starting to develop and being introduced and I'm just confused on what the hell most of the references are since I'm not an avid comic reader.. or just even a reader at that haha.
Some Arrow Talk: [sp]So John is assumed to be leaving for Coast City in between seasons and possibly a Green Lantern show?[/sp]
[sp]My first initial thought of Ray was "Is this an Ant-Man thing?" Who is Ray suppose to be?[/sp]
[sp]And surely this isn't the end of Oliver's superhero days. I'm guessing this is just to end a saga in Starling City and he has new adventures elsewhere?[/sp]
Plot Twist: [sp] Oliver meets John in Coast City after Green Lantern is developed. Other men in tights show up to say, "Hey we have this league of justice. Want to join?" CW's Justice League coming soon.[/sp]
I'm not completely serious in the plot twist, as I've stated I don't know how to comics go.
I'd guess I want to know more about this Flashpoint. Is it a timeline change caused by the Flash or a comic book variation? Like New52? My extent of knowledge on these is they are selections of costume in Injustice :v:
[QUOTE=Cold Blood;47737502]All these spin-offs are starting to develop and being introduced and I'm just confused on what the hell most of the references are since I'm not an avid comic reader.. or just even a reader at that haha.
Some Arrow Talk: [sp]So John is assumed to be leaving for Coast City in between seasons and possibly a Green Lantern show?[/sp]
[sp]My first initial thought of Ray was "Is this an Ant-Man thing?" Who is Ray suppose to be?[/sp]
[sp]And surely this isn't the end of Oliver's superhero days. I'm guessing this is just to end a saga in Starling City and he has new adventures elsewhere?[/sp]
Plot Twist: [sp] Oliver meets John in Coast City after Green Lantern is developed. Other men in tights show up to say, "Hey we have this league of justice. Want to join?" CW's Justice League coming soon.[/sp]
I'm not completely serious in the plot twist, as I've stated I don't know how to comics go.
I'd guess I want to know more about this Flashpoint. Is it a timeline change caused by the Flash or a comic book variation? Like New52? My extent of knowledge on these is they are selections of costume in Injustice :v:[/QUOTE]
flashpoint is not supposed to affect other dcwtvu shows (i think)
ray palmer character was supposed to be ted kord, cw asked for ted kord, they got palmer instead
[QUOTE=Cold Blood;47737502]All these spin-offs are starting to develop and being introduced and I'm just confused on what the hell most of the references are since I'm not an avid comic reader.. or just even a reader at that haha.
Some Arrow Talk: [sp]So John is assumed to be leaving for Coast City in between seasons and possibly a Green Lantern show?[/sp]
[sp]My first initial thought of Ray was "Is this an Ant-Man thing?" Who is Ray suppose to be?[/sp]
[sp]And surely this isn't the end of Oliver's superhero days. I'm guessing this is just to end a saga in Starling City and he has new adventures elsewhere?[/sp]
Plot Twist: [sp] Oliver meets John in Coast City after Green Lantern is developed. Other men in tights show up to say, "Hey we have this league of justice. Want to join?" CW's Justice League coming soon.[/sp]
I'm not completely serious in the plot twist, as I've stated I don't know how to comics go.
I'd guess I want to know more about this Flashpoint. Is it a timeline change caused by the Flash or a comic book variation? Like New52? My extent of knowledge on these is they are selections of costume in Injustice :v:[/QUOTE]
Ray Palmer is basically DC's version of Ant-Man, except with a belt as opposed to a suit. Not some doofus with power armor like he's been so far.
Was reading a little on who Ted Kord is and never realized his name being brought up in Arrow.
Kord's characteristics also are opposite of Ray Palmer's.
From wikipedia:
Highly intelligent and uses high-tech stuff (well they got this right)
Very athletic and hand-to-hand combatant
Highly trained in espionage
So if Ted Kord HAS been identified as someone separate than Ray how do they both coexist for the same purpose?
Also was reading up a little more on the character, Diggle. David Ramsey, the actor, has confirmed he will be returning for season 4. Wasn't sure if that was a given for most of you.
On the subject of possible identities of Diggle in a mask:
[quote]DR: I do think you need some kind of concealment. I agree with that. And to that end, they are working on something. You will see something for Diggle next year, season 4. You will.[/quote]
Source: [url]http://comicbook.com/2015/05/14/david-ramsey-teases-john-diggles-future-on-arrow---will-he-wear-/[/url]
Basically DC can tell CW if they can't use characters (they are worried it will distract people from their own movie plans).
CW were told they can't use Deadshot anymore. They were also told they already have their own plans for Ted Kord. With The Flash movie coming up I'd be worried what they'll have to start cutting from that soon (obviously it's too late to tell them to can the whole show).
I would imagine that's why Legends of Tomorrow is being made. They don't seem to have access to much more, hence such a random collection of characters. There's no doubt been many other things DC has boo-boo'd.
It's nuts. DC [I]should[/I] be saying "let us work with you to build our Flash and Arrow universes so we could use them in future movies" instead of "FUCK YOU WE'RE DOING OUR OWN THING. Give me back those toys!".
I just can't understand why they can't use Deadshot, Flash and every single other actor as their respective character in the movie from the CWverse. I see no point in creating to separate 'universes' within TV and film. For instance, I really liked the Deadshot from CWverse and I would love to see more of him on big screen with some other characters, but aparently DC(and/or WB) has different plans..
Because Warner Bros doesn't get it.
Marvel is massively into fan service (most of the end credits scenes would mean nothing to those who don't follow the comics madly). But DC isn't. They failed to realise how many people would rush in to see Justice League if it had the CW Barry and Oliver with Affleck and co.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;47738263]Because Warner Bros doesn't get it.
Marvel is massively into fan service (most of the end credits scenes would mean nothing to those who don't follow the comics madly). But DC isn't. They failed to realise how many people would rush in to see Justice League if it had the CW Barry and Oliver with Affleck and co.[/QUOTE]
Warner Bros is just a bunch of people in suits thinking they understand comic books fans. Hence why they try to connect everything to Batman for example (BvS and Suicide Squad).
[QUOTE=Dan2593;47738116]Basically DC can tell CW if they can't use characters (they are worried it will distract people from their own movie plans).
CW were told they can't use Deadshot anymore. They were also told they already have their own plans for Ted Kord. With The Flash movie coming up I'd be worried what they'll have to start cutting from that soon (obviously it's too late to tell them to can the whole show).
I would imagine that's why Legends of Tomorrow is being made. They don't seem to have access to much more, hence such a random collection of characters. There's no doubt been many other things DC has boo-boo'd.
It's nuts. DC [I]should[/I] be saying "let us work with you to build our Flash and Arrow universes so we could use them in future movies" instead of "FUCK YOU WE'RE DOING OUR OWN THING. Give me back those toys!".[/QUOTE]
And this is why I think that, despite all their best efforts, DC will ultimately lose to Marvel; they license stuff to other companies with a firm grip of control instead of making their own studio. That and they don't seem to have any fucking idea what they're doing.
[QUOTE=Cold Blood;47737853]Was reading a little on who Ted Kord is and never realized his name being brought up in Arrow.
Kord's characteristics also are opposite of Ray Palmer's.
From wikipedia:
Highly intelligent and uses high-tech stuff (well they got this right)
Very athletic and hand-to-hand combatant
Highly trained in espionage
So if Ted Kord HAS been identified as someone separate than Ray how do they both coexist for the same purpose?
Also was reading up a little more on the character, Diggle. David Ramsey, the actor, has confirmed he will be returning for season 4. Wasn't sure if that was a given for most of you.
On the subject of possible identities of Diggle in a mask:
Source: [url]http://comicbook.com/2015/05/14/david-ramsey-teases-john-diggles-future-on-arrow---will-he-wear-/[/url][/QUOTE]
CW had been planning to use Ted Kord since S1, WB blocking them was a very last minute decision, even when the casting call went out for an actor it was still for Ted seeing as the casting name they used, Daniel, was a reference to the previous Blue Beetle, Dan Garett. It's likely that a lot of the early scripts were written with Ted in mind and not Ray, with the nanotech stuff being added later to make him have something shrinking related without giving him actual shrinking till now.
Ted isn't a character who's good at those things initially, hell up until he finished college he wasn't physically fit, he was physically fat. It was an origin story so it would have made sense he wasn't a good fighter till Ollie helped him out.
I'm still pissed about Ted getting screwed out of Arrow, WB better not fuck up if he's in the DCCU, he's my favourite hero and this was gonna be his time to shine in LA.
Although considering Rays treatment this season maybe I dodged a bullet.
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