Narcos - Netflix Original following the rise and fall of Pablo Escobar - Film, Television and Music

At the very least they'll be covering Los Pepes.

Watched it when it originally came out, fantastic show. Are the DEA agents based on the actual agents that took him down or are they fictional?

from the pictures in the intro i assume that the main guy is based on a real person, idk about the rest

[QUOTE=blerb;48654185]Watched it when it originally came out, fantastic show. Are the DEA agents based on the actual agents that took him down or are they fictional?[/QUOTE] Both Murphy and Pena are real people, hired as consultants on the show.

For anyone interested, the real Murhpy and Pena are interviewed here: [URL="http://observer.com/2015/08/dea-agents-on-hunting-pablo-escobar-el-chapo-and-the-accuracy-of-netflixs-narcos/"]http://observer.com/2015/08/dea-agents-on-hunting-pablo-escobar-el-chapo-and-the-accuracy-of-netflixs-narcos/[/URL]

[sp] So did Pablo actually have a brother who was killed or was that made up for story telling reasons? [/sp]

Just started watching his, am on Episode 3 now. Damn this show is good. And the intro is brilliant as well. It's so weird how Escobar is portrayed though. Good weird, at least from a cinematic perspective! He's a likeable antagonist. :v: Most of the time he's an evil genius but sometimes he seems so humane. Was the real Pablo Escobar like that?

[QUOTE=Suttles;48654119]The show could easily transition to other drug smugglers and cartels, it could be pretty interesting if done correctly.[/QUOTE] Well, the show is called "Narcos" and not "Pablo Escobar". You could be right. [editline]13th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=The_J_Hat;48656290]For anyone interested, the real Murhpy and Pena are interviewed here: [URL="http://observer.com/2015/08/dea-agents-on-hunting-pablo-escobar-el-chapo-and-the-accuracy-of-netflixs-narcos/"]http://observer.com/2015/08/dea-agents-on-hunting-pablo-escobar-el-chapo-and-the-accuracy-of-netflixs-narcos/[/URL][/QUOTE] [quote]Legalization is not the answer. Just go look at history. [b]There are multiple countries in Europe that have tried legalization, and it has not worked in one place yet.[/b] Now we’re going with legalizing marijuana here in the United States, for medicinal purposes. Okay, if there is a legitimate medicinal purpose, okay. Let that person smoke pot. But not these thousands and thousands of people.[/quote] Oh well :v:

Watched it when it came out, in one sitting. Even though most of what happened was (obviously) dramatized, it was fairly close and accurate to the real-life events. [url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0609944/?ref_=tt_cl_t1]Wagner Moura[/url] as Pablo Escobar was really damn good, even if his Spanish accent isn't really that good - as a Spanish speaker, everyone else had spot-on Colombian accent, except him and [url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0350079/?ref_=tt_cl_t18]Luis Guzmán[/url] (as Gacha), who is Puerto Rican and could put you off a bit at times, but you could still get over it and enjoy the show. Thing is, for most people, Pablo Escobar *must* have "Paisa" accent (a particular accent from the Colombian region he hailed from), or else it's just not Pablo Escobar at all... but it comes down to nitpicking, you can forgive Wagner for that, he's done a great job. If you're not familiar with Spanish, or your Spanish isn't that good, chances are you won't even notice, and that's cool. I also liked the attention to detail to the atmosphere, recreating Colombia in the late '80s, down to the cars and trucks. There were a few, just a few moments where they sort of messed up (a scene where Virginia Vallejo shows up on Pablo's house in an early 2000's BMW... that's the only thing that stuck out the most), but overall it showed lots of research on their part. The main characters, Murphy and his wife for instance, are "okay", nothing particularly spectacular, they did their part just fine. All in all 8/10, would definitely recommend. [editline]16th September 2015[/editline] Bonus: [hd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtJ6yAGjsIs[/hd] The opening intro is pretty damn cool. Glad to see they show Colombia as the beautiful country it is, and not like a suburb in Mexico, like most uneducated filmmakers tend to make. [editline]16th September 2015[/editline] If you're still interested in the rise of drug dealers in the '80s, I'd suggest watching Johnny Depp's "Blow", that's the story of the dude who trafficked coke into the US, via the Ochoa brothers (IIRC), connected to Pablo Escobar by proxy.

this is seriously the best netflix original there is

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;48670849] It's so weird how Escobar is portrayed though. Good weird, at least from a cinematic perspective! He's a likeable antagonist. :v: Most of the time he's an evil genius but sometimes he seems so humane. Was the real Pablo Escobar like that?[/QUOTE] Supposedly. Psychopaths can be quite good at compartmentalization, i.e they are one person with their family and another when they are "working". Its why guys like the Iceman killer were so hard to catch, because he didn't fit a typical profile. But then, psychopathy isn't an either/or thing, its a spectrum disorder.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;48670849]Just started watching his, am on Episode 3 now. Damn this show is good. And the intro is brilliant as well. It's so weird how Escobar is portrayed though. Good weird, at least from a cinematic perspective! He's a likeable antagonist. :v: Most of the time he's an evil genius but sometimes he seems so humane. Was the real Pablo Escobar like that?[/QUOTE] Escobar, even today, is regarded by many to be a good man, especially in his home town. Dude did more for the poor in his country than the government ever did, he built schools, hospitals, homes and other shit. I have no idea if the show covers this since i've only seen the first ep and it seems really good. Personally, Escobar isn't really someone who I would label good since he murdered shit tons of people and flooded entire countries with drugs and crime but it's hard to deny he did lots to help the vulnerable and poor in his country when he could and he seemed pretty genuine about it.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;48703366]Escobar, even today, is regarded by many to be a good man, especially in his home town. Dude did more for the poor in his country than the government ever did, he built schools, hospitals, homes and other shit. I have no idea if the show covers this since i've only seen the first ep and it seems really good. Personally, Escobar isn't really someone who I would label good since he murdered shit tons of people and flooded entire countries with drugs and crime but it's hard to deny he did lots to help the vulnerable and poor in his country when he could and he seemed pretty genuine about it.[/QUOTE] The only people who thought he was a good person were the poor peasants who he bribed with the money he literally gave away (because he had so much gawddamn money, he didn't know what to do with it). That part is shown on the tv show, and that's how he "bought" his way into the hearts of the lower classes, who don't know any better. They saw someone giving them money, and instantly thought "oh what a good guy he is!". The same people who supported him, were the same people he also terrorized or sent to kill, like that guy with the bomb on the airplane. He believed until the last second that Pablo Escobar was a genuinely good guy.

isn't "bad people sometimes do good things" a major theme in the first episode or am i thinking of something else

You're correct, the difference between good and bad based on perspective is easily a major theme. One line by Murphy that has stuck with me is "good and bad are relative concepts". Sums up Pablo's legacy pretty well imo.

[QUOTE=blerb;48712247]You're correct, the difference between good and bad based on perspective is easily a major theme. One line by Murphy that has stuck with me is "good and bad are relative concepts". Sums up Pablo's legacy pretty well imo.[/QUOTE] I mean yeah, pardon my application of Godwin's Law, but even Hitler did good things. Doesn't quite outweigh the negatives though. :v:

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;48713801]I mean yeah, pardon my application of Godwin's Law, but even Hitler did good things. Doesn't quite outweigh the negatives though. :v:[/QUOTE] Hitler is not a very good comparison. Hitler wanted to eradicate an entire race. Escobar just wanted lots of money.

just finished. damn the last couple of episodes were so intense

Wonder how they're going to fill an entire second season? [sp]Pablo's in the final year of his life when the first one ends[/sp]

Half-way through the season so far. This show is fucking intense, and I can't get over how fucked up it got in Colombia. I re-subbed to netflix just for this, and I'm glad I did

Watched the first episode of this on Friday. The show is amazing. I wanted to watch more throughout the weekend but I was so busy :cry:

This is something like the 10th rendition of a Pablo Escobar story. People [I]really[/I] love to direct anything that has to do with Escobar, huh? I'm not surprised by the popularity, but it does seem weird nobody has really gone and said "Ah, that's been done a million times already, let's not do that". Granted, this series is obviously fucking great, and I also have not seen any of the other films or series. I'm surprised they are stretching it to a second season. I haven't finished it fully, still got 3-4 episodes left, so that's part of it, but I also figured they would cover everything in 1 season.

Is there any chance of El Chapo in S2?

[QUOTE=NO ONE;48997323]I'm not surprised by the popularity, but it does seem weird nobody has really gone and said "Ah, that's been done a million times already, let's not do that". [/QUOTE] Google how many Peter Pan movies have been made. This industry loves to rehash.

This show was absolutely amazing and I can't wait for season 2.

I find a lot of the "bad guys" quite likeable, especially Pablo himself. That Nazi guy seems like a complete prick though.

I have a Colombian co-worker, he says that the actor playing Pablo has the wrong accent. I don't care though, and I don't think he does either. I love the show and I think everything about it is GOAT.

[QUOTE=RobBrown4PM;49014818]I have a Colombian co-worker, he says that the actor playing Pablo has the wrong accent. I don't care though, and I don't think he does either. I love the show and I think everything about it is GOAT.[/QUOTE] GOAT?

[QUOTE=partfarty;49017339]GOAT?[/QUOTE] Greatest of all time

[sp] Poor cat. [/sp]