[QUOTE=Revelificent;51765363]Do people on here dislike Iron Blooded Orphans or something? That shit was amazeballs and I don't even like mecha anime.[/QUOTE]
I usually go crazy for mecha but something about it really had me dragging through it.
Most of the mech designs felt uninspired and I didn't really care for the protag.
To give the short version, IBO season 1 was a glacially paced poorly animated, poorly written, and poorly directed piece of garbage that had a few decent concepts that it failed to utilise properly in the slightest. If you want decent characters or character development, you won't get them. If you want a decent plot, you won't get that either. If you want decent action, you'll get thirty seconds of mecha action spread out over six episodes and the animation will suck.
Season 2 has been a marginal improvement and actually has an animation budget, but it's still just okay and there's no reason to watch 26 episodes of garbage just to watch a second season that's merely okay.
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51765363]Do people on here dislike Iron Blooded Orphans or something? That shit was amazeballs and I don't even like mecha anime.[/QUOTE]
IBO is among the weakest of all not-straight-terrible Gundam entries, I'd only recommend it to people who've already been through the rest of gundam.
In the same breath I wouldn't recommend Thunderbolt to someone who has seen no Gundam at all either (after rechecking this - Crimor, watch 0079 through CCA, especially if you're gonna watch 08th MS Team).
ultra heaven reads like a psychosis
i love it
My problem with IBO was the middle of S1, it started strong then falls mid way because ~KUDELIA SUGOI~ but I thought it started to pick up again as it neared the end.
I've considered S2 to be an improvement all round though compared to S1 and have found it a lot more interesting in its characters, fights, story etc, plus it gave us Vidar!
IBOs characters had about as much depth as something that isnt very deep
Watched Summer Wars last night. It was pretty good but a bit close to the Digimon Movie. Getting into Koi-Koi now
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;51766288]Watched Summer Wars last night. It was pretty good but a bit close to the Digimon Movie. Getting into Koi-Koi now[/QUOTE]
[url]https://myanimelist.net/people/5067/Hosoda_Mamoru[/url]
Mamoru hosoda directed both movies
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51765363]Do people on here dislike Iron Blooded Orphans or something? That shit was amazeballs and I don't even like mecha anime.[/QUOTE]It rapidly got, I don't know, boring in season two? They begun focusing on background characters that I could care less about and literally sidelined the main characters for whole episodes. I mean, the idea to do that was nice, but it failed because it felt in no way engaging at all, which sucks because some of the new characters seemed cool, namely the squinting big guy. Not that it actually mattered to begin with, because the main cast of characters were awful anyway, except for maybe some of the Earth guys.
The arc they were doing by the end of ep11s2 seemed like it could've been interesting but I'm not going to bother repicking it up to see where it leads.
Keijo is a classy anime
I don't really watch much anime, but I saw some stills of Tatami Galaxy and the style intrigued me, so I watched it. From start to finish. In two days. Fuck, I love everything about this damn show. It's supremely relatable, the way its story is told is interesting and well-executed, the characters are great, the way it uses repetition without getting stale while slowly adding information and building to its conclusion is masterful, and the ending is fantastic. Its themes and ideas are neither cryptic nor patronizingly obvious. I even love the op and ed. The only problem was that I needed to spend a few minutes using Spreeder before I could read the subtitles while still watching the animation.
[QUOTE=Pitchfork;51767801]I don't really watch much anime, but I saw some stills of Tatami Galaxy and the style intrigued me, so I watched it. From start to finish. In two days. Fuck, I love everything about this damn show. It's supremely relatable, the way its story is told is interesting and well-executed, the characters are great, the way it uses repetition without getting stale while slowly adding information and building to its conclusion is masterful, and the ending is fantastic. Its themes and ideas are neither cryptic nor patronizingly obvious. I even love the op and ed. The only problem was that I needed to spend a few minutes using Spreeder before I could read the subtitles while still watching the animation.[/QUOTE]
I watched that recently too, I felt about the same. Good payoff.
Iron blooded orphans is funnier when you remember that the heroine is essentially anime Joseph Kony. At any point she could have been like "maybe let's not use child soldiers" but nope.
all MSG series are like that
Youjo Senki 5
[sp]switzerland involved in a war? really now?[/sp]
youjo senki 5
[sp] well that was certainly one way to get round the international law, i dont know why but the 'cute' voice is more evil that her normal
oh and that CGI was something else[/sp]
[QUOTE=Taggart;51765556]In the same breath I wouldn't recommend Thunderbolt to someone who has seen no Gundam at all either (after rechecking this - Crimor, watch 0079 through CCA, especially if you're gonna watch 08th MS Team).[/QUOTE]Why is that? Does it have a lot of Gundam related events that you should probably be well versed on the series for or something?
[editline]3rd February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Jabberwocky;51770426]Iron blooded orphans is funnier when you remember that the heroine is essentially anime Joseph Kony. At any point she could have been like "maybe let's not use child soldiers" but nope.[/QUOTE]To be fair she is a child herself.
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51773828]Why is that? Does it have a lot of Gundam related events that you should probably be well versed on the series for or something?
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Thunderbolt is best appreciated by people who have watched a lot of Gundam and decided that their ideal Gundam series is darker, grittier, and has absolutely none of the themes and plot elements of a normal Gundam series except for "war sucks" and "gritty war drama".
Short answer, the setting tends to be more appreciated once you have a few UC Gundam series under your belt or at the very least 0079, because the adaptation of Thunderbolt cuts out nearly all of the downtime and expects you to already know what the deal with Zeon and the Federation is and where it takes place chronologically in the One Year War, although Thunderbolt is technically an AU where the war dragged on longer than in the original TV series..
[editline]4th February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51773828]
To be fair she is a child herself.[/QUOTE]
Kudelia [I]Aina Bernstein[/I]'s original plan was to use a PMC with child soldiers in order to highlight her cause of "why won't somebody please think of the children" that seems to be half of her political platform, and she probably didn't expect to see actual combat. If nothing else this makes sense because she's an incredibly sheltered and naive idiot and the show makes it pretty clear that this was a stupid idea very early on.
She feels vaguely guilty over it during the series but like many things with the series it isn't handled properly so she mostly just ends up going "i'm getting dozens of child soldiers slaughtered for my cause but eh what're ya gonna do". Her character arc consists of repeating "wow i should really become a better and more competent person" over and over for 26 episodes while barely developing as a character or becoming more competent despite soaking up more screentime and character focus than the rest of the cast put together.
[QUOTE=Reds;51773879]Thunderbolt is best appreciated by people who have watched a lot of Gundam and decided that their ideal Gundam series is darker, grittier, and has absolutely none of the themes and plot elements of a normal Gundam series except for "war sucks" and "gritty war drama".
Short answer, the setting tends to be more appreciated once you have a few UC Gundam series under your belt or at the very least 0079, because the adaptation of Thunderbolt cuts out nearly all of the downtime and expects you to already know what the deal with Zeon and the Federation is and where it takes place chronologically in the One Year War, although Thunderbolt is technically an AU where the war dragged on longer than in the original TV series..
[editline]4th February 2017[/editline]
Kudelia [I]Aina Bernstein[/I]'s original plan was to use a PMC with child soldiers in order to highlight her cause of "why won't somebody please think of the children" that seems to be half of her political platform, and she probably didn't expect to see actual combat. If nothing else this makes sense because she's an incredibly sheltered and naive idiot and the show makes it pretty clear that this was a stupid idea very early on.
She feels vaguely guilty over it during the series but like many things with the series it isn't handled properly so she mostly just ends up going "i'm getting dozens of child soldiers slaughtered for my cause but eh what're ya gonna do". Her character arc consists of repeating "wow i should really become a better and more competent person" over and over for 26 episodes while barely developing as a character or becoming more competent despite soaking up more screentime and character focus than the rest of the cast put together.[/QUOTE]I really feel like the second half might just be an opinionated critique but I genuinely haven't actually watched much Gundam so I guess I can't really say.
To be honest all I'd say is completely necessary to watch Thunderbolt is the opening narration of 0079.
[QUOTE=Reds;51773977]To be honest all I'd say is completely necessary to watch Thunderbolt is the opening narration of 0079.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate. Maybe I'll do a Gundam week long marathon or something.
You can probably get by on thunderbolt with just 0079 but why stop at 0079 when you can experience the entire UC quadrology
I thought I wouldn't like Youjo Senki because of the art style change but it's pretty good so far.
Oh yeah, and if you watch Thunderbolt you might as well watch December Sky, which is the same thing but in movie form and with some extra material at the end.
[editline]4th February 2017[/editline]
Although if you watch December Sky that's one more reason to watch 0079 first because then you need to know what A Baoa Qu is.
Youjo Senki EP5 spoilers:
[url]http://streamable.com/fr9rj[/url]
It's a webm of the scene when [sp]they're about to attack the facility, so she gives the warning.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Taggart;51765556]watch 0079 through CCA, especially if you're gonna watch 08th MS Team.[/QUOTE]
That's 79, zeta, ZZ, CCA right?
[QUOTE=Reds;51773879]Thunderbolt is best appreciated by people who have watched a lot of Gundam and decided that their ideal Gundam series is darker, grittier, and has absolutely none of the themes and plot elements of a normal Gundam series except for "war sucks" and "gritty war drama".[/QUOTE]
to be honest, i'll have to disagree here
thunderbolt was my first gundam thing (well i took a pause after the first part to wait for the rest and had watched the first like 3 episodes of 0079 during that wait but that doesnt count) and i loved it a lot, it's what got me interested in gundam
I really enjoyed Thunderbolt, but then again I'd jizz over anything that has well animated Zakus in it.
[QUOTE=Max;51776254][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/kH504wJ.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/rjfaQDV.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
damn guess i have to drop demi chan now
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