[QUOTE=Durrsly;51862425]So I want to start One Piece but I'm kinda put off by the 700+ episodes. Is skipping filler okay or do I just have to push through?[/QUOTE]
You can skip filler just fine if you want. I managed to binge like 500 episodes before I finally caught up.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;51862425]So I want to start One Piece but I'm kinda put off by the 700+ episodes. Is skipping filler okay or do I just have to push through?[/QUOTE]
If you don't like the episodes now you won't like them later. I learned that the hard way :v:
[QUOTE=richard9311;51857397]I really wasn't a fan at first, but it's grown on me over the season.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, both the opening and closing themes didn't really resonate with me at first but then I sat down and listened to both again and ended up loving them.
So I feel like a huge nerd loser asking this but
Can I get a recommendation for a lighthearted/cute anime that's also good? I'd like to have something for my girlfriend and I to watch when we're in the mood to relax, and we don't feel up to loud ass dramatic ass Kill la Kill or Jojo. I don't know too much about anime except the big hits, so I don't know what to look for without ending up watching a generic harem anime.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51862994]So I feel like a huge nerd loser asking this but
Can I get a recommendation for a lighthearted/cute anime that's also good? I'd like to have something for my girlfriend and I to watch when we're in the mood to relax, and we don't feel up to loud ass dramatic ass Kill la Kill or Jojo. I don't know too much about anime except the big hits, so I don't know what to look for without ending up watching a generic harem anime.[/QUOTE]
Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun, Tanaka-kun Is Always Listless, GA: Geijutsuka Art Design Class, Tonari No Seki-kun, Nichijou.
The comedy section in the OP will help as well.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51862994]So I feel like a huge nerd loser asking this but
Can I get a recommendation for a lighthearted/cute anime that's also good? I'd like to have something for my girlfriend and I to watch when we're in the mood to relax, and we don't feel up to loud ass dramatic ass Kill la Kill or Jojo. I don't know too much about anime except the big hits, so I don't know what to look for without ending up watching a generic harem anime.[/QUOTE]
Hidamari Sketch, Yuyushiki, Mushishi (a little bit more serious but still chill as fuck), cardcaptor sakura (actually rly fuckin good), Danshi koukousei no nichijou (might not be too relaxing but really funny)
also what reds said
[QUOTE=Hakita;51848380]really? cause writing has always been one of dragonball's weakest aspects (since after the frieza arc at least)
almost every fight goes the same way from what i remember: A steamrolls B, B reveals something that causes them to become stronger, B steamrolls A, A reveals something that causes them to become stronger, etc. etc. until either goku comes in to continue the formula or A or B dies
most fights are solved by powering up in some way instead of outsmarting an opponent or discovering and using an opponent's flaws
not saying that's how every fight goes, but from my memory that's what most of them were[/QUOTE]I can't really say you're wrong but that's just the formula for a fighting anime like this. It's not meant to be over complicated or super serious or anything. Dragon Ball has always been about the training and powering up to become stronger than your opponent.The actual writing in the arc that had Black was very dark and surprisingly well done for the DB universe. The previous tournament arc was also extremely well done and has some of the best DB writing I've ever seen [sp]Goku using Kaioken with SSB because of SSBs unique requirement for focus rather than anger[/sp]. Currently this new tournament arc we are going in to is pretty awesome and off to a good start. The story is pretty reasonable and the first fight has already been fun.
At the same time your complaints are probably true for most situations. I struggle between average and decent. There is just enough good writing for me to keep watching, but I've almost dropped the series a few times. It's a bit of a grab bag really.
I think the movies might be more well done for the Beerus and Freiza arc.
[editline]23rd February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Durrsly;51862425]So I want to start One Piece but I'm kinda put off by the 700+ episodes. Is skipping filler okay or do I just have to push through?[/QUOTE]
You can skip most of the filler although some arcs are a suggested watch because of the quality. There also really isn't that much filler in One Piece compared to other long running shonen. The 700 episodes can definitely seem a little intimidating though, but I'd just watch binge it in increments or something. I wouldn't skip any episodes that have canon and filler mixed in, even if you have no idea whats going on with the first half or part of the episodes.
Check [URL="https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=453655"]this list[/URL] for filler. [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/16kq2v/for_those_of_us_who_would_like_to_skip_the_filler/"]This[/URL] and [URL="http://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/one-piece"]this[/URL] might also help.
(On checking the link, I noticed it only has a 13% filler episode ratio. That's so fucking low for a long running shonen, good god.)
[editline]23rd February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=chonks;51862718]If you don't like the episodes now you won't like them later. I learned that the hard way :v:[/QUOTE]I actually didn't like much of the earlier episodes of One Piece but I forced myself through because I heard such good things. I liked it more once it picked up around the Alabasta arc and now it's in my top 5.
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51863035]I can't really say you're wrong but that's just the formula for a fighting anime like this. It's not meant to be over complicated or super serious or anything. Dragon Ball has always been about the training and powering up to become stronger than your opponent.The actual writing in the arc that had Black was very dark and surprisingly well done for the DB universe. The previous tournament arc was also extremely well done and has some of the best DB writing I've ever seen [sp]Goku using Kaioken with SSB because of SSBs unique requirement for focus rather than anger[/sp]. Currently this new tournament arc we are going in to is pretty awesome and off to a good start. The story is pretty reasonable and the first fight has already been fun.
At the same time your complaints are probably true for most situations. I struggle between average and decent. There is just enough good writing for me to keep watching, but I've almost dropped the series a few times. It's a bit of a grab bag really.
I think the movies might be more well done for the Beerus and Freiza arc.[/QUOTE]
there's a reason series like jojo go for everyone having a weird different power instead of just being stronger, because it starts getting pretty boring when the progression is always the exact same
and not only is it just boring and predictable but the constant escalation of power comes with other issues as well, such as all side characters becoming completely useless (remember when tien and yamcha did things?)
and it's not only a problem with fights, the same applies for other things, such as how kami being literally god has no effect on anything anymore since there's gods above that and even a god above those gods
there's no upper limit to anything so you start feeling like nothing matters at any point anymore, there's no tension left and characters dying is a joke at this point
hell, remember when "The Legendary Super-Saiyan" was a thing that was being built up? remember how awesome it was when it was finally revealed that goku was that one legendary super saiyan?
now think of how little that matters anymore since everyone's a super saiyan, a super saiyan 2, a super saiyan 3, a super saiyan god super saiyan, super saiyan rose, etc etc
power-ups can be very exciting, like in Gurren Lagann, but not only is it done to the point of self-parody in dragonball, but even with the ridiculous power-ups nothing changes still
at this point there's characters who can destroy the entire universe but when they fight it's still the exact same fights it's always been, they look and work the exact same way and the only difference in the fights between back in the early arcs of DBZ and now is that there's a character that says "they're so strong they could destroy the universe!" but they still have the exact same fist fights and brawls with the same moves and the same phases
[QUOTE=Hakita;51863119]there's a reason series like jojo go for everyone having a weird different power instead of just being stronger, because it starts getting pretty boring when the progression is always the exact same
and not only is it just boring and predictable but the constant escalation of power comes with other issues as well, such as all side characters becoming completely useless (remember when tien and yamcha did things?)
and it's not only a problem with fights, the same applies for other things, such as how kami being literally god has no effect on anything anymore since there's gods above that and even a god above those gods
there's no upper limit to anything so you start feeling like nothing matters at any point anymore, there's no tension left and characters dying is a joke at this point
hell, remember when "The Legendary Super-Saiyan" was a thing that was being built up? remember how awesome it was when it was finally revealed that goku was that one legendary super saiyan?
now think of how little that matters anymore since everyone's a super saiyan, a super saiyan 2, a super saiyan 3, a super saiyan god super saiyan, super saiyan rose, etc etc
power-ups can be very exciting, like in Gurren Lagann, but not only is it done to the point of self-parody in dragonball, but even with the ridiculous power-ups nothing changes still
at this point there's characters who can destroy the entire universe but when they fight it's still the exact same fights it's always been, they look and work the exact same way and the only difference in the fights between back in the early arcs of DBZ and now is that there's a character that says "they're so strong they could destroy the universe!" but they still have the exact same fist fights and brawls with the same moves and the same phases[/QUOTE]
If you've been following along with the recent arc, they actually made Krillen relevant again. Tien, Krillen, 17, 18, Piccolo and even master fuckin Rochi is competing in the tournament. I also don't have any problem with the structure they use for gods and power. We actually have an omnipotent being that is above all others that has finally been fully revealed, as well as the power structure under him.
I get the whole endless powerups thing. And I notice that in every fight and arc that has been in Super so far, but I try to overlook it. They have found ways to make it very interesting. I would argue that how it was done in Gurren Lagann isn't really all that much different to be completely honest. It's just more ridiculous and endless powerups. But it was still a very good anime for other reasons.
I don't really think all the battles have been just about powerups though in Super either. Just look at the Goku vs. Hit fight. It was excellently written. It definitely goes a step above what Z accomplished.
Edit: Interestingly I am still watching Super but I have JoJo on indefinite hold right now because I got bored and lost interest.
Edit2: Just recalled a point where Beerus and Champa get in to it a little too seriously (might have even happened twice) and they start fucking up the universe around them because of it. So it's not really as simple as you seem to make it out to be in regards to the fights being the same as always. The only reason Goku and Beerus didn't destroy the universe back when they fought in the Beerus arc is because Goku was countering his blows with blows at an equal strength.
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51863148]If you've been following along with the recent arc, they actually made Krillen relevant again. Tien, Krillen, 17, 18, Piccolo and even master fuckin Rochi is competing in the tournament. I also don't have any problem with the structure they use for gods and power. We actually have an omnipotent being that is above all others that has finally been fully revealed, as well as the power structure under him.[/QUOTE]
i haven't been keeping up with super for obvious reasons but if those characters are actually relevant again then i'm glad they're trying to fix at least some of the issues that've come up over the years
my problem with the gods is how kami used to be THE god, and that was actually a big thing, but because of the constant climb of powerlevels they also needed to start ramping up deities as well, so kami has become irrelevant and the title of god is meaningless now
because that has happened before, having the writers go "no wait THIS is the real highest being" makes me think "yeah, for a couple arcs at least", which gives him 0 credibility for me and makes me not care
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51863148]I get the whole endless powerups thing. And I notice that in every fight and arc that has been in Super so far, but I try to overlook it. They have found ways to make it very interesting. I would argue that how it was done in Gurren Lagann isn't really all that much different to be completely honest. It's just more ridiculous and endless powerups. But it was still a very good anime for other reasons.
I don't really think all the battles have been just about powerups though in Super either. Just look at the Goku vs. Hit fight. It was excellently written. It definitely goes a step above what Z accomplished.[/QUOTE]
Gurren Lagann's power-ups have 2 extremely important aspects that make them different from DBS'
1) The show's length:
Gurren Lagann is 26 episodes (+1 recap), and the amount of power-ups rises exponentially through the show, cultivating in a climax of the titular transformation, comparable to the build-up to the Super Saiyan transformation
the difference here is that Dragonball continues past the climax of power-ups and just keeps going and going and adding more powerups, if Gurren Lagann had continued for another 50 episodes past the TTGL power-up, its powerups would be meaningless and contrived as well
i can only suspend my disbelief so far, and shit like SSJ 2 and beyond breaks it for me
2) The power-ups change things
this is the thing i was talking about before when i mentioned how even with Dragonball's seemingly infinite powerups the fights are still the same
going past SSJ to planet destruction levels to galactic destruction levels to universe destruction levels is meaningless if it doesn't feel like anything's changed other than the characters talking about what they [I]could[/I] do
when i talked about the whole universe destruction level being nothing i wasnt referring specifically to Beerus vs Goku, i meant it as a general example
if you want something more specific, think of Goku vs Golden Frieza (or whatever the name for his newest version is), in which they're both infinitely more powerful than they were during their original fight, but the fight still looks and feels the exact same, it feels like no progress has been made and the power-ups have no effect on anything that's not just "who is winning the current fight"
contrast that with how Gurren Lagann does it, where every power-up changes the fights, such as how the scale keeps changing to accomodate for the new levels of power
Lagann relies on tricks, backup and luck to win fights
Gurren Lagann can take on Gunmen on its own without needing to rely on these
beyond that, as Gurren Lagann keeps powering up to ridiculous levels, things keep ramping up to accomodate:
[sp]fights start taking place in space as the earth is no longer a big enough battlefield
the mechas' sizes escalate from moon size to bigger than galaxies
towards the end you get missiles that travel through space-time to hit their target without them being able to avoid those, mechas using entire galaxies as throwing weapons and even a beam attack with such explosive energy it begins forming new planets and galaxies[/sp]
DBS' fights however never escalates past DBZ's fist fights (with a couple moments of exception here and there, but consistency is key here)
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51863148]Edit: Interestingly I am still watching Super but I have JoJo on indefinite hold right now because I got bored and lost interest.[/QUOTE]
good for you, but that doesn't change the fact that opponents that aren't just stronger than the previous ones, and instead are effective in different aspects and in their own styles is a much better solution than an infinite upwards ramp in punching harder and faster
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51863148]
Edit: Interestingly I am still watching Super but I have JoJo on indefinite hold right now because I got bored and lost interest.
[/QUOTE]
did you even make it to part 2 or did you call it quits in the first 9 episodes because it's "too slow"
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;51845733]Yeah, based on this art
[t]https://i.imgur.com/uCCjaSB.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Looks like the Kotobukiya one, except with her hand holding the beer mug being in a "Sound of Music" pose and no mug in hand.
I wonder who's the figure makers.
[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;51864066]Looks like the Kotobukiya one, except with her hand holding the beer mug being in a "Sound of Music" pose and no mug in hand.
I wonder who's the figure makers.[/QUOTE]
Revolve
Totally off topic -- but has anyone watched Baccano! lately? I've been going back and sorting through my older favourites (from the mid 2000's) and this one really stood out to me in a way that still hasn't been surpassed.
This might not be the place to drool over old anime but I never really got the chance to talk about it with anyone
God I love this show
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51862994]So I feel like a huge nerd loser asking this but
Can I get a recommendation for a lighthearted/cute anime that's also good? I'd like to have something for my girlfriend and I to watch when we're in the mood to relax, and we don't feel up to loud ass dramatic ass Kill la Kill or Jojo. I don't know too much about anime except the big hits, so I don't know what to look for without ending up watching a generic harem anime.[/QUOTE]
Sadly I tend to not watch a lot of what most might call "cute" anime. The only recommendation I might be able to give, for several reasons, is Girls und Panzer. It's cute, fairly light-hearted, good, and I fucking love it.
Unrelated: How close is the Youjo Senki anime to the print series in terms of story progress?
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51862994]So I feel like a huge nerd loser asking this but
Can I get a recommendation for a lighthearted/cute anime that's also good? I'd like to have something for my girlfriend and I to watch when we're in the mood to relax, and we don't feel up to loud ass dramatic ass Kill la Kill or Jojo. I don't know too much about anime except the big hits, so I don't know what to look for without ending up watching a generic harem anime.[/QUOTE]
Little Witch Academia. TV series is still in the process of airing but the two short films are both really charming and accessible.
Somehow, it always manages to put a smile on my face. Take a look at it, if you have the time.
[QUOTE=CAPT Opp4;51864177]Totally off topic -- but has anyone watched Baccano! lately? I've been going back and sorting through my older favourites (from the mid 2000's) and this one really stood out to me in a way that still hasn't been surpassed.
This might not be the place to drool over old anime but I never really got the chance to talk about it with anyone
God I love this show[/QUOTE]
it's been aeons since i watched baccano, it was one of my first anime and i watched it back when i still watched dubs
if you havent you should watch 91 days and durarara
they're both made by a lot of the same people, durarara is written by the author of the original baccano novel and 91 days also takes place during the prohibition era
be warned though, durarara dips in quality a lot during the second season
Chaos;Child: Holy shit.
[QUOTE=Humin;51864485]Chaos;Child: Holy shit.[/QUOTE]
yeah, you're right, it's shit. not sure about the holy part though.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51862994]So I feel like a huge nerd loser asking this but
Can I get a recommendation for a lighthearted/cute anime that's also good? I'd like to have something for my girlfriend and I to watch when we're in the mood to relax, and we don't feel up to loud ass dramatic ass Kill la Kill or Jojo. I don't know too much about anime except the big hits, so I don't know what to look for without ending up watching a generic harem anime.[/QUOTE]
watch flying witch
nnnoooooooooo
[QUOTE=Durrsly;51862425]So I want to start One Piece but I'm kinda put off by the 700+ episodes. Is skipping filler okay or do I just have to push through?[/QUOTE]
don't bother with the anime at all, it's not that good to begin with and goes completely downcliff about 300 episodes in
read the manga instead, it's been consistently great even after 800 chapters
[QUOTE=Hakita;51863761]i haven't been keeping up with super for obvious reasons but if those characters are actually relevant again then i'm glad they're trying to fix at least some of the issues that've come up over the years
my problem with the gods is how kami used to be THE god, and that was actually a big thing, but because of the constant climb of powerlevels they also needed to start ramping up deities as well, so kami has become irrelevant and the title of god is meaningless now
because that has happened before, having the writers go "no wait THIS is the real highest being" makes me think "yeah, for a couple arcs at least", which gives him 0 credibility for me and makes me not care[/quote]
I mean it's not like they release a new god every two arcs. I have a feeling that they pretty much have the power structure set out that they will probably keep from this point on. That could change I'm guessing but I just don't realistically see them doing something like that. I just don't really have a problem with things getting more and more powerful, it is somewhat unavoidable in a show that bases so much around power levels. They are definitely doing it a lot better this time around.
[quote]Gurren Lagann's power-ups have 2 extremely important aspects that make them different from DBS'
1) The show's length:
Gurren Lagann is 26 episodes (+1 recap), and the amount of power-ups rises exponentially through the show, cultivating in a climax of the titular transformation, comparable to the build-up to the Super Saiyan transformation
the difference here is that Dragonball continues past the climax of power-ups and just keeps going and going and adding more powerups, if Gurren Lagann had continued for another 50 episodes past the TTGL power-up, its powerups would be meaningless and contrived as well
i can only suspend my disbelief so far, and shit like SSJ 2 and beyond breaks it for me[/quote]
I don't find the shows length to be any detraction from the ridiculous powerups. People straight up throwing galaxies at each other is way further than DB has ever gone. If SSJ 2 was enough to break your suspension of disbelief I might argue you need better suspension of disbelief.
[quote]2) The power-ups change things
this is the thing i was talking about before when i mentioned how even with Dragonball's seemingly infinite powerups the fights are still the same
going past SSJ to planet destruction levels to galactic destruction levels to universe destruction levels is meaningless if it doesn't feel like anything's changed other than the characters talking about what they [I]could[/I] do
when i talked about the whole universe destruction level being nothing i wasnt referring specifically to Beerus vs Goku, i meant it as a general example
if you want something more specific, think of Goku vs Golden Frieza (or whatever the name for his newest version is), in which they're both infinitely more powerful than they were during their original fight, but the fight still looks and feels the exact same, it feels like no progress has been made and the power-ups have no effect on anything that's not just "who is winning the current fight"
contrast that with how Gurren Lagann does it, where every power-up changes the fights, such as how the scale keeps changing to accomodate for the new levels of power
Lagann relies on tricks, backup and luck to win fights
Gurren Lagann can take on Gunmen on its own without needing to rely on these
beyond that, as Gurren Lagann keeps powering up to ridiculous levels, things keep ramping up to accomodate:
[sp]fights start taking place in space as the earth is no longer a big enough battlefield
the mechas' sizes escalate from moon size to bigger than galaxies
towards the end you get missiles that travel through space-time to hit their target without them being able to avoid those, mechas using entire galaxies as throwing weapons and even a beam attack with such explosive energy it begins forming new planets and galaxies[/sp]
DBS' fights however never escalates past DBZ's fist fights (with a couple moments of exception here and there, but consistency is key here)[/quote]
I still don't find your view all that sound that it's so much different. DB is a completely different kind of show than Gurren Lagann and both shows have characters power up in different ways. I think that simplifying DB down to 'just fighting with their fists' is an okay argument but Super has I think gone in different directions than this. I actually didn't like the Frieza arc or Beerus arc as much as I'm liking the arcs more and more as they go on.
[quote]good for you, but that doesn't change the fact that opponents that aren't just stronger than the previous ones, and instead are effective in different aspects and in their own styles is a much better solution than an infinite upwards ramp in punching harder and faster[/QUOTE] Maybe, or maybe I found it boring because how it is executed matters a lot as well and being simple doesn't necessarily make something bad, nor does making something extra complicated make it necessarily good.
I'm okay with how Dragon Ball progresses and Super seems to get better writing and fights every arc it goes through.
[editline]23rd February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=gottifour;51863932]did you even make it to part 2 or did you call it quits in the first 9 episodes because it's "too slow"[/QUOTE]
Made it to Diamond is Unbreakable and I made it to episode 15 on that before I put it on indefinite hold. Show isn't bad but something puts me off that I can't put my fingers on.
[editline]23rd February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=NotMeh;51865239]don't bother with the anime at all, it's not that good to begin with and goes completely downcliff about 300 episodes in
read the manga instead, it's been consistently great even after 800 chapters[/QUOTE]
Not everyone likes to read manga.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51862994]So I feel like a huge nerd loser asking this but
Can I get a recommendation for a lighthearted/cute anime that's also good? I'd like to have something for my girlfriend and I to watch when we're in the mood to relax, and we don't feel up to loud ass dramatic ass Kill la Kill or Jojo. I don't know too much about anime except the big hits, so I don't know what to look for without ending up watching a generic harem anime.[/QUOTE]
Sora no Woto
I personally didn't like it, but it fits your description
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51865278]I mean it's not like they release a new god every two arcs. I have a feeling that they pretty much have the power structure set out that they will probably keep from this point on. That could change I'm guessing but I just don't realistically see them doing something like that. I just don't really have a problem with things getting more and more powerful, it is somewhat unavoidable in a show that bases so much around power levels. They are definitely doing it a lot better this time around.[/QUOTE]
the show basing itself around power levels is precisely the problem i'm talking about, it's gotten to a point where nothing has any weight to it anymore, because you know it's just going to keep going the same way it has before
kami used to be "the highest being" at the time and he's just nothing because the story keeps introducing higher "highest beings" and that perfectly illustrates how none of it matters in the long run
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51865278]I don't find the shows length to be any detraction from the ridiculous powerups. People straight up [sp]throwing galaxies[/sp] at each other is way further than DB has ever gone. If SSJ 2 was enough to break your suspension of disbelief I might argue you need better suspension of disbelief.[/QUOTE]
you're completely missing my point
TTGL has absolutely ridiculous powerups, but there's reasons why they're endearing, exciting and fun instead of just being "oh here's the next one"
i wouldn't be nearly as miffed about dragonball's powerups if it had ended with Z's frieza arc, because that feels like a natural conclusion to the upwards climb of power-ups, becoming a one-of-a-kind legend that had been built up for a while already
the reason SSJ2 broke my suspension of disbelief isn't because it was too powerful or anything like that, its very existence is mindbogglingly stupid because it reduces a legendary form into just another power-up and it reduces a legend that had been built up into just "no actually everyone can do it and people can do it better now too"
to continue the TTGL comparison, imagine if gurren lagann kept going after its natural ending point and started having Tengen Toppa 2, Tengen Toppa 3, Tengen Toppa God Tengen Toppa, Tengen Toppa Rose, etc. it'd take any weight and meaning that the original climax for the power progression had and would make it feel useless and pointless, causing every subsequent powerup to feel the same because you know they'll just power-up beyond that again
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51865278]I still don't find your view all that sound that it's so much different. DB is a completely different kind of show than Gurren Lagann and both shows have characters power up in different ways. I think that simplifying DB down to 'just fighting with their fists' is an okay argument but Super has I think gone in different directions than this. I actually didn't like the Frieza arc or Beerus arc as much as I'm liking the arcs more and more as they go on.[/QUOTE]
i dont understand, first you say that you dont think the ways the shows handle power-ups are different, but then continue to say that they're in completely different kinds of shows and they power-up in different ways? which is it?
if super has started fixing these issues then good on them but i have yet to see any of that nor do i think it makes everything it's done so far any less worse
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51865278]Maybe, or maybe I found it boring because how it is executed matters a lot as well and being simple doesn't necessarily make something bad, nor does making something extra complicated make it necessarily good.
I'm okay with how Dragon Ball progresses and Super seems to get better writing and fights every arc it goes through.[/QUOTE]
i dont know why you assumed i meant something being complicated means it's good
i'm saying there's no tension in the same thing happening over and over and over again, because you've seen it happen so many times you already know how it goes
what i want is variety, excitement and unpredictability, none of which dragonball's writing does very well
i'm not saying you can't or shouldn't like dragonball super, but i just honestly do not think dragonball has good writing in any shape or form
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51865278]Not everyone likes to read manga.[/QUOTE]
that wouldn't change the fact that the manga is better (if it is, of course)
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51865278]
Not everyone likes to read manga.[/QUOTE]
then you may as well not bother with the series at all
you'd think the most popular manga in existence would get a worthy anime, but nah it's Toei's worst adaptation by far
definitely not worth wasting 700 * 20 = at least 14000 minutes of your life on
Fair enough, I will point out the one fact that the legend of Super Saiyan is just that, a legend. It was never intended to be something that only one person could accomplish I don't think. It's just that no saiyan had previously achieved that level until Goku.
I find it hard to argue against most of your points so I must not really be able to make a good argument in this case. I suppose all in all I'm okay with Dragon Ball being average.
[QUOTE=Hakita;51865368]that wouldn't change the fact that the manga is better (if it is, of course)[/QUOTE]Sure but I also know how bad people get on anime adaptations even when those adaptations aren't that bad. One Piece is probably another one of those. Lately the pacing has been utter shit I suppose though.
[editline]23rd February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=NotMeh;51865402]then you may as well not bother with the series at all
you'd think the most popular manga in existence would get a worthy anime, but nah it's Toei's worst adaptation by far
definitely not worth wasting 700 * 20 = at least 14000 minutes of your life on[/QUOTE]This leads me to believe you are biased because the TV show doesn't perfectly emulate the manga for you. The show is fine, albeit shittily paced since Dressrosa (maybe earlier, can't remember).
[QUOTE=Revelificent;51865458]Fair enough, I will point out the one fact that the legend of Super Saiyan is just that, a legend. It was never intended to be something that only one person could accomplish I don't think. It's just that no saiyan had previously achieved that level until Goku.
I find it hard to argue against most of your points so I must not really be able to make a good argument in this case. I suppose all in all I'm okay with Dragon Ball being average.[/QUOTE]
if you find enjoyment in that then good for you, enjoying things is a good thing even if they're not particularily good on a technical level
regardless of whether or not super saiyan was supposed to actually be a legend or not, the buildup made it a big deal, and when everyone started doing it and leveling up past it, it became pointless, making all future buildup feel pointless as well because it will end up the same way
I personally never got into one piece, not really sure why but I just didn't really like it that much.
also there's an anime waifu youtuber now :v:
[video=youtube;W7Du_Yw7hZU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Du_Yw7hZU[/video]
here's her playing Superhot
[video=youtube;aRwgmjn-8mE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRwgmjn-8mE[/video]
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