[QUOTE=Crimor;52128933]I heard berserk 2016 was bad but this is just silly.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/D21mz4K.png[/img][/QUOTE]
This looks way different from what I remember.
[IMG]http://68.media.tumblr.com/32f9df45718b12cc9a973fb510caf19e/tumblr_oee5v9dIfY1sdvwfno1_1280.png[/IMG]
Anyone know of a good set of JoJo's SFX? Fiancee is working on a Reimi cosplay and the gogogogo one doesn't quite fit. Wish I could extract the SFX from Eyes of Heaven or All Star Battle, but I'm not savvy enough ;c
[QUOTE=Crimor;52128933]I heard berserk 2016 was bad but this is just silly.
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It looks like Seto Kaiba found a "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" helmet.
[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;52136461]It looks like Seto Kaiba found a "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" helmet.[/QUOTE]
That's Kaibaman to you, and I'll have you know he's a very real card.
[t]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/9/9b/Kaibaman-LDK2-EN-C-1E.png/revision/latest?cb=20161007084529[/t]
[QUOTE=TectoImprov;52136648]That's Kaibaman to you, and I'll have you know he's a very real card.
[t]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/9/9b/Kaibaman-LDK2-EN-C-1E.png/revision/latest?cb=20161007084529[/t][/QUOTE]
Someone must've been inspired by this, only explaination.
[url=http://www.hobbywave.com/]Seems like Hobbywave is kicking the bucket[/url] RIP in pepperoni
[editline]22nd April 2017[/editline]
[img]http://www.hobbywave.com/images/sale.png[/img]
edit: though, to be honest I never really used it. Most of my stuff was from Amazon or HLJ, still sucks though.
oh shit new AoT episode
[QUOTE=Ott;52139223]oh shit new AoT episode[/QUOTE]
S2 made me binge read all the available chapters. It gets better.
too bad that at current pace it'll be 2030 before we actually get to the real juicy parts of SnK
New Hero Academia episode was pretty cool except for the huge recap again, lots of action.
[QUOTE=reevezy67;52140052]New Hero Academia episode was pretty cool except for the huge recap again, lots of action.[/QUOTE]
I think that's going to be the case with each episode.
Would people recommend the Saga of Tanya the Evil (Youjo Senki)? It looks like it might toe the line between great and terrible.
[QUOTE=download;52143799]Would people recommend the Saga of Tanya the Evil (Youjo Senki)? It looks like it might toe the line between great and terrible.[/QUOTE]
It was pretty good, comedy of the season.
Playing Jojo Eyes of Heaven on the PS4 - its [I]GOLD[/I]. The constant onslaught of catchphrases, moans, yelling and SFX is amazing. Best shit was when I did a Dio Brando + DIO combo and they both started screaming "WRYYYYYYYYYY". Any other animes have good/fun game adaptations?
[editline]24th April 2017[/editline]
I mean look at it
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M20Qg9GFy4I[/media]
Recently finished watching My Romantic Comedy Snafu Too, as well as its OVA. Godfuckingdamn I can't wait for them to finish it. Great story, animation, character designs, the whole shebang.
[QUOTE=download;52143799]Would people recommend the Saga of Tanya the Evil (Youjo Senki)? It looks like it might toe the line between great and terrible.[/QUOTE]
it's great
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;52143981]Recently finished watching My Romantic Comedy Snafu Too, as well as its OVA. Godfuckingdamn I can't wait for them to finish it. Great story, animation, character designs, the whole shebang.[/QUOTE]
i honestly dont understand what could possibly make s2's story great, the writing was shallow and melodramatic, most conversations went nowhere and achieved nothing, and worst of all, it portrays 8man's antisocial thoughts as being in the right
s1 wasnt great in the writing either, but it had comedy and character moments to balance out the terrible drama and at least it let you draw your own conclusions about whether or not 8man is right
s2 makes me mad
[QUOTE=download;52143799]Would people recommend the Saga of Tanya the Evil (Youjo Senki)? It looks like it might toe the line between great and terrible.[/QUOTE]
It was pretty good imo, just self-aware enough to avoid being [I]2 edgy[/I]. Some janky animation though.
[sp]one of the characters is called mary sue ffs[/sp]
Zero kara Hajimeru Mahou no Sho is pretty good. I don't really know why I picked it up, but I'm enjoying it so far.
[QUOTE=Hakita;52144094]i honestly dont understand what could possibly make s2's story great, the writing was shallow and melodramatic, most conversations went nowhere and achieved nothing, and worst of all, it portrays 8man's antisocial thoughts as being in the right
s1 wasnt great in the writing either, but it had comedy and character moments to balance out the terrible drama and at least it let you draw your own conclusions about whether or not 8man is right
s2 makes me mad[/QUOTE]
What about the writing was shallow? Melodramatic, a few times but it was a great evolution considering the stakes at hand.
How does it portray Hikigaya's antisocial thoughts as being in the right? His actions directly stunt the growth of every single character in episode 2, and almost all episodes afterward. He even realizes this in episode 2, but is too afraid to do anything about it. That's what the season is about, everyone being afraid to grow up. Man if there's one thing those Japanese do well besides music, it's coming of age stories.
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;52146745]What about the writing was shallow? Melodramatic, a few times but it was a great evolution considering the stakes at hand.
How does it portray Hikigaya's antisocial thoughts as being in the right? His actions directly stunt the growth of every single character in episode 2, and almost all episodes afterward. He even realizes this in episode 2, but is too afraid to do anything about it. That's what the season is about, everyone being afraid to grow up. Man if there's one thing those Japanese do well besides music, it's coming of age stories.[/QUOTE]
i think he means s2 was a lot worse than s1
which is totally true
^How? Neither of you qualified your conclusions with any supporting details.
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;52148171]^How? Neither of you qualified your conclusions with any supporting details.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1469193&p=48076633&viewfull=1#post48076633[/url]
[QUOTE=Garlickeh;52148199][url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1469193&p=48076633&viewfull=1#post48076633[/url][/QUOTE]
[quote=Garlickeh]
the entire first half is about some girl that comes out of nowhere then disappears into nothingness when her arc is over,
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That's a gross simplification.
Irohas comes in episode 3, after Yui and Yukino witness the lengths Hikigaya is willing to go to keep the status quo going. They are hurt by this, because they see how little he actually values himself while they themselves have come to care for him. The shot with Yukino's hand over her heart suggests it deeply hurts her to see someone she has grown to care for so much, implying a romantic interest. Yukino also dislikes the fact that he is merely maintaining the status quo, but she is unable to put this into words. It is clashing methodology, Hikigaya's selflessness under the guise of him taking the brunt, vs Yukino's more roundabout honest methods.
Irohas' friends wrote her in for the student council election. Irohas didn't want to run, so she asks the service club to help her lose in a way without really damaging her reputation. Irohas is the football club manager, which Hayato is a part of. Hayato is also running for student council The service club surmises that should she go forward with the vote, she'll be scorned by the female student body for simply running because Hayato is.
Hikigaya asks Irohas if she has selected anyone to give her campaign speech for student council. She says no. Hikigaya then pens the idea that they just have to get someone to make a real shitty speech, that way no damage is done directly to Irohas. The implication to the audience is that Hikigaya will do it, just like every other time. Yui notices this, and it greatly troubles her for obvious reasons. It then shifts over to Yukino, who dismisses the idea immediately because it continues the bullshit status quo crap. She even spells this out as he walks out. "And I thought that kind of deception was what you and I both hated the most."
She spells out later, too. "You avoided the problem last time," "You're the one who said there's no point in something that superficial." Fuck man come on how the fuck did you miss this shit? I'm doing this play-by-play for all the episodes. To say nothing happens in the first half of the season is horribly erroneous.
[quote=Garlickeh]
which is fine but she literally replaced yukino, who becomes a super minor character for that arc. but ok, you still have some of the charm from s1, the conflict there is still believable, hikki's no-nonsense personality is still there. [/quote]
There is nothing inherently wrong with Yukino becoming a minor character, especially since Irohas' growth is wonderful to see. From some fucking bimbo of an airhead to a pretty capable president. Without going into too much detail again, Hikigaya also learns about himself from the love of his sister, and from helping Irohas. That shit was golden.
[quote=Garlickeh]
then you have the second half where yukino's family becomes prominent. all of a sudden yukino becomes a blubbering mess, yui becomes a blubbering mess, 8man becomes a blubbering mess, the drama dial is turned to 11 and you lose suspension of disbelief as you remind yourself that these kids are like 16. yukino especially loses all uniqueness in her character to become generic kuudere #5298374, and by the last episode yahari s2 has become a generic HS rom drama you can find anywhere else
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Why does being 16 exempt them from drama? Maybe when you were 16 you knew yourself completely fine, good for you. Not everyone gets the opportunity to be completely happy as a teenager. What kind of criticism is this?
Yukino's thing with her family could've been handled with a bit more grace, I can definitely say that. The seed was planted in episode 6 of season 1 I want to say, so it's not as if it came out of nowhere. A bit more in episode 7, too, with the little girl Rumi. Episode 8 and 9, where Yukino is shown to be capable of lying. I found myself wanting to rewrite a bit of Haruno's dialogue as I watched the show because it felt less like the organic writing it usually is. Although the moment she asks Hikigaya, Yui, and Yukino "so this is the real thing you were talking about?" That was brilliant. If Haruno didn't exist, it would've been a generic harem anime. But she quickly put a stop to that from happening once she had them realize they're still afraid of actually doing the things they want.
[editline]25th April 2017[/editline]
To be honest I wish you had just replied to my post that replied to Hakita with some actual discussion that way I didn't have to write all this shit.
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;52146745]What about the writing was shallow? Melodramatic, a few times but it was a great evolution considering the stakes at hand.
How does it portray Hikigaya's antisocial thoughts as being in the right? His actions directly stunt the growth of every single character in episode 2, and almost all episodes afterward. He even realizes this in episode 2, but is too afraid to do anything about it. That's what the season is about, everyone being afraid to grow up. Man if there's one thing those Japanese do well besides music, it's coming of age stories.[/QUOTE]
granted i haven't seen it since it came out 2 years ago so my memory's a bit rusty on it, but here's what i remember:
the writing is shallow because the grand majority of the show is characters talking about nothing, achieving nothing and saying nothing while trying to appear really meaningful, which is dumb considering how it makes fun of that exact same thing with the hands guy
like that episode that was basically just a single conversation between yukino, yui and 8man that was 90% just words happening and the resolution to the whole problem was just them going "we're your friends we'll help you out"
maybe you should've said that near the start so i wouldnt have to be half asleep by the time any progression actually happens
i didn't get any of the depth you're talking about in the show, maybe it is there and i just couldn't be assed to parse it through the tone and dialogue that annoyed me so greatly
what i meant with 8man's antisocial thoughts is how he made everything up to be really dramatic in s1 and how he was overthinking everything, like that nice girls speech that's like something straight out of a tumblr blogpost, while the truth was that the world was just a normal standard world
then s2 rolls around and everyone starts acting really over the top and dramatic, it no longer just being how distanced and seperated 8man is from the world
and what really kept annoying me was this constant air of pretension, especially whenever hayato popped on screen only to say "i'm not the nice guy you think i am" and then leave
characters having multiple sides to them is great and i love it, but just talking about it instead of actually showing it is really irritating
iroha did this fairly well, she's got 2 clear sides, her public "cutesy schoolgirl" side and her snappier, ruder real personality that comes out when she's with 8man
i dont remember any stakes either, what i remember is a whole lot of teenage angst from a bunch of annoying angsty teenagers
i get that teenagers can be real angsty, and that's fine, but when your entire show becomes just teenagers angsting about how they want the ~genuine~ it becomes pretty damn tiring and boring
s1 had a bit of that too but it was balanced out with a good amount of comedy and character moments which s2 had like 3 of after the first 2 episodes
overall though what really irritates me about s2 is how it has potential and it's close to being actually good
if it was just straight up complete trash i could ignore it just like any other bad show but the fact that it improves on some fronts (like the visuals) and has some moments of the charm of the original (the first 2 episodes, 8man's conversation with the teacher, any scene with saika, the conclusion of the hands guy arc) makes me so annoyed at it
s2 could've been wastly improved if, instead of cutting out the comedy and shoving in more pointless drama, they balanced them out by cutting out the pointless repetition in the drama (hayato's stupid shit) and using that space for light hearted stuff and comedy instead
i think i forgot a bunch of what i was supposed to type here but whatever, this post's long enough anyway
[QUOTE=Hakita;52148514]granted i haven't seen it since it came out 2 years ago so my memory's a bit rusty on it, but here's what i remember:
the writing is shallow because the grand majority of the show is characters talking about nothing, achieving nothing and saying nothing while trying to appear really meaningful, which is dumb considering how it makes fun of that exact same thing with the hands guy
like that episode that was basically just a single conversation between yukino, yui and 8man that was 90% just words happening and the resolution to the whole problem was just them going "we're your friends we'll help you out"
maybe you should've said that near the start so i wouldnt have to be half asleep by the time any progression actually happens
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This does not fit the definition of shallow. It fits the definition of "I cannot understand the theme that everyone is afraid of taking the steps towards growing up." If you dislike this theme, that is a preference.
[QUOTE=Hakita;52148514]
i didn't get any of the depth you're talking about in the show, maybe it is there and i just couldn't be assed to parse it through the tone and dialogue that annoyed me so greatly
[/QUOTE]
Why are you replying then?
[QUOTE=Hakita;52148514]
what i meant with 8man's antisocial thoughts is how he made everything up to be really dramatic in s1 and how he was overthinking everything, like that nice girls speech that's like something straight out of a tumblr blogpost, while the truth was that the world was just a normal standard world
then s2 rolls around and everyone starts acting really over the top and dramatic, it no longer just being how distanced and seperated 8man is from the world
[/QUOTE]
What was wrong with his thoughts on nice girls? It was primarily about his own self-loathing. How when a girl so much as texts him his heart becomes elated. We later learn that this stems from his rejection from Kaori Orimoto, he guards his heart and thus puts down Yui's advances because he thinks she's just being nice. It's dramatic irony, because it's obvious to the audience that Yui does like Hikigaya. It's not over the top dramatic in the least. Have you seen Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolfe? That shit's over the top.
[QUOTE=Hakita;52148514]
and what really kept annoying me was this constant air of pretension, especially whenever hayato popped on screen only to say "i'm not the nice guy you think i am" and then leave
characters having multiple sides to them is great and i love it, but just talking about it instead of actually showing it is really irritating
iroha did this fairly well, she's got 2 clear sides, her public "cutesy schoolgirl" side and her snappier, ruder real personality that comes out when she's with 8man
[/QUOTE]
That's a gross simplification. He doesn't just pop in to say "I'm not the nice guy you think i am" and leave. He usually does something for Hikigaya, like when he brings Yukino and Yui to the coffee shop to show Hikigaya he has people who care for him. But the twist we find at the end of the season was that he was doing this to gain Yukino's favor. It was show, not tell. It had a payoff.
[QUOTE=Hakita;52148514]
i dont remember any stakes either, what i remember is a whole lot of teenage angst from a bunch of annoying angsty teenagers
i get that teenagers can be real angsty, and that's fine, but when your entire show becomes just teenagers angsting about how they want the ~genuine~ it becomes pretty damn tiring and boring
s1 had a bit of that too but it was balanced out with a good amount of comedy and character moments which s2 had like 3 of after the first 2 episodes [/QUOTE]
Again, this has nothing to do with an inherent quality of the show itself but more to do with your preference. You're simplifying what the show is, it's not solely angst. It is a group of teenagers who afraid to grow up. I've never seen it portrayed in this analytical fashion and it was great. I thought Hikigaya's crying was a wonderful moment. A season and a half of him taking shit for granted only for it to bubble up in a glorious fucking moment of catharsis.
[QUOTE=Hakita;52148514]
overall though what really irritates me about s2 is how it has potential and it's close to being actually good
if it was just straight up complete trash i could ignore it just like any other bad show but the fact that it improves on some fronts (like the visuals) and has some moments of the charm of the original (the first 2 episodes, 8man's conversation with the teacher, any scene with saika, the conclusion of the hands guy arc) makes me so annoyed at it
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You haven't even demonstrated why it isn't good. And fuck Saika Totsuka. He should've just been a timid guy who quietly develops on the side as he becomes captain of the tennis club. Someone Hikigaya can take inspiration from. His feminine boy shit is just pandering.
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;52148580]This does not fit the definition of shallow. If its the definition of "I cannot understand the theme that everyone is afraid of taking the steps towards growing up." If you dislike this theme, that is a preference.[/QUOTE]
well i'm sorry if my choice of words is poor, but if you believe my complaints are about the theme then you should read my post again
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;52148580]Why are you replying then?[/QUOTE]
because i think the show is bad and i would like to have a conversation with someone who doesnt?
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;52148580]What was wrong with his thoughts on nice girls? It was primarily about his own self-loathing. How when a girl so much as texts him his heart becomes elated. We later learn that this stems from his rejection from Kaori Orimoto, he guards his heart and thus puts down Yui's advances because he thinks she's just being nice. It's dramatic irony, because it's obvious to the audience that Yui does like Hikigaya. It's not over the top dramatic in the least. Have you seen Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolfe? That shit's over the top.[/QUOTE]
are you saying a line like "that's why kindness is a farce" is not over the top dramatic?
i haven't seen that but i dont see how that makes yahari's drama any less silly than it already is
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;52148580]That's a gross simplification. He doesn't just pop in to say "I'm not the nice guy you think i am" and leave. He usually does something for Hikigaya, like when he brings Yukino and Yui to the coffee shop to show Hikigaya he has people who care for him. But the twist we find at the end of the season was that he was doing this to gain Yukino's favor. It was show, not tell. It had a payoff.
Again, this has nothing to do with an inherent quality of the show itself but more to do with your preference. You're simplifying what the show is, it's not solely angst. It is a group of teenagers who afraid to grow up. I've never seen it portrayed in this analytical fashion and it was great. I thought Hikigaya's crying was a wonderful moment. A season and a half of him taking shit for granted only for it to bubble up in a glorious fucking moment of catharsis.[/QUOTE]
it seems i've missed a lot about the show, so thanks for explaining these for me
the things you bring up do sound interesting but the way it's executed is just awful in my opinion
most of the dialogue is dumb fluff and all this "analytical" stuff doesn't have much focus, so it's more interesting to hear about than actually watch
i completely disagree with your opinion on 8man crying though, i felt the exact opposite about it
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;52148580]You haven't even demonstrated why it isn't good. And fuck Saika Totsuka. He should've just been a timid guy who quietly develops on the side as he becomes captain of the tennis club. Someone Hikigaya can take inspiration from. His feminine boy shit is just pandering.[/QUOTE]
i think i did a pretty good job at explaining why i dont think it's good, the characters are annoying, the dialogue is stupid and there's nothing to balance out the angst so it's just boring and uninteresting, i dont care at all about the characters and grow disconnected from how i liked them in s1 because of how they stop being anything like what they were or even doing anything fun anymore
also really, of all the things to hate in yahari you choose saika? the only character (outside of zaimokuza) who doesnt get all angsty?
and your complaints about him are nonsensical as well, why should he have been timid? because he brings some light to a dry and dull show?
what did dgg get reincarnated or something what the fuck is all this text
I remember someone got banned for letting dgg (or possibly another permabanned guy) post using his account
[QUOTE=Hakita;52148691]well i'm sorry if my choice of words is poor, but if you believe my complaints are about the theme then you should read my post again[/quote]
That's all I can take from that first paragraph because you did absolutely nothing to demonstrate that the writing is shallow. You still haven't. "90% words happening" does not shallow writing make. I am left to make the conclusion that you dislike the theme, and I can see from this new post that that is the case.
[QUOTE=Hakita;52148691]
are you saying a line like "that's why kindness is a farce" is not over the top dramatic?
i haven't seen that but i dont see how that makes yahari's drama any less silly than it already is[/QUOTE]
I've read a lot of manga, seen a lot of movies, listened to a lot of music. Hikigaya's speech about nice girls is in no way over the top dramatic in the least. You ever read Fuuka? It's the latest shitshow by Seo Kouji who authored such shit as Suzuka, and Kimi No Iru Machi. In Fuuka, [sp]the MC's girlfriend, Fuuka, gets hit by a truck. Later, he meets a girl who looks like her completely, even with the same name, but a bigger bust. Much later in the story, this new Fuuka nearly gets hit by a fucking truck.[/sp] It's played completely straight. THAT is over the top dramatic. Hikigaya's speech? It stems from rejection from a girl and he has hardened his heart. Nothing over the top dramatic about, not a single thing. If you still think so, we'll have to agree to disagree.
[QUOTE=Hakita;52148691]
it seems i've missed a lot about the show, so thanks for explaining these for me
the things you bring up do sound interesting but the way it's executed is just awful in my opinion
most of the dialogue is dumb fluff and all this "analytical" stuff doesn't have much focus, so it's more interesting to hear about than actually watch
i completely disagree with your opinion on 8man crying though, i felt the exact opposite about it[/QUOTE]
But what's awful about the execution? That it's angsty? That's not an indicator of quality, and if you dislike that aspect, that is a preference. What dialogue is dumb fluff? What lines specifically? Why do you feel the opposite on Hikigaya's crying?
[QUOTE=Hakita;52148691]
i think i did a pretty good job at explaining why i dont think it's good, the characters are annoying, the dialogue is stupid and there's nothing to balance out the angst so it's just boring and uninteresting, i dont care at all about the characters and grow disconnected from how i liked them in s1 because of how they stop being anything like what they were or even doing anything fun anymore
also really, of all the things to hate in yahari you choose saika? the only character (outside of zaimokuza) who doesnt get all angsty?
and your complaints about him are nonsensical as well, why should he have been timid? because he brings some light to a dry and dull show?[/QUOTE]
You did not. You're providing conclusions with no supporting details. We can't have a dialogue about it because of this. What I keep seeing, over and over, is you bringing it back to angst. To reiterate: If you do not like that, that is not an inherent negative on the show's part. It is more so reflective of your own expectations, experiences, and preferences. And the bit about the characters not acting like their S1 iterations is completely false. Hikigaya continuing to act like he was in season 1 DIRECTLY leads to the primary conflict in season 2: His desire for something genuine. Yes I choose Saika because his bullshit feminine boy crap was pandering. I already said this.
[editline]25th April 2017[/editline]
By the way I'm sorry if I'm coming off as a fucking asshole, but this show is good. And when you said the writing was shallow I thought you were going to have arguments and not just tell me you don't like it because it's angsty.
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