Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread - Dr. Strangelove - Film, Television and Music

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51956936]Or he's suggesting that perhaps certain reviewers have a clear bias and cant be trusted?[/QUOTE] You're right, they clearly have a bias against badly written stories, poorly implemented cultural representation, and bad fight scenes. Better ignore them and their twisted views on what constitutes as good entertainment :v:

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51957025]With the sheer archive of videos he has, including movie and TV stuff he's shot, you absolutely could use ILM's mousesorcery and Adobes Voco to keep him fictionally immortal forever.[/QUOTE] Was Tarkin a voiceover or did they do that? I'm gonna guess voiceover but its still an impressive feat. Not to mention Civil War's young Stark.

[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;51957031]You're right, they clearly have a bias against badly written stories, poorly implemented cultural representation, and bad fight scenes. Better ignore them and their twisted views on what constitutes as good entertainment :v:[/QUOTE] Their bias is their clear hatred of the lead being white when they wanted him to be asian. You know. It was a big shit show everyone was bitching about around a year ago. And a number of reviews open with somehow shoehorning in a reference to him not being asian or appropriating asian culture or being a white savior or any number of buzzwords. Use your brain my dude.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51957052]Their bias is their clear hatred of the lead being white when they wanted him to be asian. You know. It was a big shit show everyone was bitching about around a year ago. And a number of reviews open with somehow shoehorning in a reference to him not being asian or appropriating asian culture or being a white savior or any number of buzzwords. Use your brain my dude.[/QUOTE] Their "bias" is The Show Is Bad and that the implementation of Asian culture is clumsy. The point is that it would be entirely possible to write a series where Danny Rand, White Dude, is the Iron Fist, and it not include shoddy attempts at representing Asian culture - the point is that, in the vast majority of reviewers opinions, they fucked it up, and it's awkward in places, offensive in others. That's what the reviews are saying. Not "Iron Fist cannot work because he's white and it's offensive!!1!", like how you seem to be interpreting it. Did you even read any reviews at all, or are you just regurgitating what VenomousBeetle was regurgitating from hearsay over the past few pages? Use your brain, my dude.

[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;51957101]Their "bias" is The Show Is Bad and that the implementation of Asian culture is clumsy. The point is that it would be entirely possible to write a series where Danny Rand, White Dude, is the Iron Fist, and it not include shoddy attempts at representing Asian culture - the point is that, in the vast majority of reviewers opinions, they fucked it up, and it's awkward in places, offensive in others. That's what the reviews are saying. Not "Iron Fist cannot work because he's white and it's offensive!!1!", like how you seem to be interpreting it. Did you even read any reviews at all, or are you just regurgitating what VenomousBeetle was regurgitating from hearsay over the past few pages? Use your brain, my dude.[/QUOTE] Okay so you're literally just talking out of your ass because you have a grudge with Venomous. Well that clears things up. [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=evlbzltyr;51957101]Did you even read any reviews at all, or are you just regurgitating what VenomousBeetle was regurgitating from hearsay over the past few pages?[/QUOTE] Just to make it clear how i know you're shitposting wildly out of some dumb inane hatred of the guy, i want to point out [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1534964&p=51931599&viewfull=1#post51931599]that i was bitching about the reviews before he was.[/url] By like 4 days too.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51957171] Just to make it clear how i know you're shitposting wildly out of some dumb inane hatred of the guy, i want to point out [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1534964&p=51931599&viewfull=1#post51931599]that i was bitching about the reviews before he was.[/url] By like 4 days too.[/QUOTE] I'd rather just ignore him at this point but if someones talking about this anyway [url]https://facepunch.com/converse.php?u=61329&u2=258413[/url] leaving a message on my profile urging me to "log off" out of the blue about a month ago [editline]14th March 2017[/editline] Does anyone know if Iron Fist wears a costume in the show or if he just stays in street clothes? Has any review or preview mentioned this or anything? [editline]14th March 2017[/editline] I'm hearing the rumor is that [sp]there is no costume and also no visible dragon[/sp]

[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51956997]I was reading about Stan Lee being pulled from a NYCC spot due to "health concerns" and people were suggesting having him digitally scanned and doing voice capture akin to text to speech practices so he could be the [i]immortal[/i] king of cameos. Any thoughts on this? I personally think it'd be awesome, even though I'd rather just pretend he's already immortal and let it literally crush me when it happens[/QUOTE] I think it'd be really neat, if Stan were willing to dedicate his likeness to being an eternal cameo machine. There's something nice about the idea of Stan being able to cameo alongside the characters he helped create long after he's gone. But since there was some controversy over resurrecting dead actors when Rogue One came out, I'm not sure if Marvel would want to get into those weeds.

I think the main difference would be that such technology was so far off when Peter Cushing was alive that there's no way they could've gotten his consent, since such tech was science fiction. Who would've thought to ask? If Stan the man agreed to it I think it'd be silly to hold it against Marvel for following it through.

yeah good point. I wouldn't mind if Stan willingly let him be digitally resurrected in cameos but it'd still feel a little off to me

[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51956997]I was reading about Stan Lee being pulled from a NYCC spot due to "health concerns" and people were suggesting having him digitally scanned and doing voice capture akin to text to speech practices so he could be the [i]immortal[/i] king of cameos. Any thoughts on this? I personally think it'd be awesome, even though I'd rather just pretend he's already immortal and let it literally crush me when it happens[/QUOTE] Have him do one final role, affirming him as The Watcher and giving him a major plot point in a movie. Probably the best way to do a send off.

I never liked that fan theory myself. I prefer to think of Stan as his own thing.

it's a dumbass idea @cgi stan stan lee cameos only work because it's actually stan lee [editline]14th March 2017[/editline] what makes the cameos heartwarming is the fact that they're this big inside joke. we know it's stan lee, they know it's stan lee, stan lee knows it's stan lee having a 3d version of him running around 'just because' is a great way to bastardize the joke, and turn it from endearing and lovable into a cold, mechanical routine

I would imagine they'll just have him in photographs after he goes, like how they did in Luke Cage.

According to Hugh Jackman in an interveiw, Dafne Keen [the girl who plays Laura] did most of her stunts on her own [video=youtube;3K_Wgn7jj8k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K_Wgn7jj8k[/video] 2:25-2:37

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51958862]I would imagine they'll just have him in photographs after he goes, like how they did in Luke Cage.[/QUOTE] Honestly, I think it might be fun to expand the cameos outside of just Stan Lee. Like, maybe you have Cap talk about his grandpa or something and it's a picture of Jack Kirby. Or you get actors like Bruce Campbell or Christopher Daniel Barnes (who have histories with Marvel properties) to show up for a quick scene. I know Stan Lee is the "face" of Marvel, but there's so much there that could be celebrated aside from just him (especially considering he's only the [b]co[/b]-creator of all these iconic characters).

[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;51959515]Honestly, I think it might be fun to expand the cameos outside of just Stan Lee. Like, maybe you have Cap talk about his grandpa or something and it's a picture of Jack Kirby. Or you get actors like Bruce Campbell or Christopher Daniel Barnes (who have histories with Marvel properties) to show up for a quick scene. I know Stan Lee is the "face" of Marvel, but there's so much there that could be celebrated aside from just him (especially considering he's only the [b]co[/b]-creator of all these iconic characters).[/QUOTE] The thing is Stan is really open and willing to do all of this. Like, you'd have to ask Kirby's estate for permission, assume those guys would have the time to do all of these cameos (Bruce is pretty active with TV for example), and good luck even finding Steve Ditko, let alone managing to convince him to come out of his midtown Manhattan Lich Cave and halt his hippie sacrifices to Ayn Rand to show up on the set of Homecoming.

Hire Jim Steranko, he's probably not doing anything

Get Rob Liefeld to play a clerk in a shoe store.

[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;51959683]Hire Jim Steranko, he's probably not doing anything[/QUOTE] He's too busy beating the shit out of Bob Kanes corpse.

[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51957034]Was Tarkin a voiceover or did they do that? I'm gonna guess voiceover but its still an impressive feat. Not to mention Civil War's young Stark.[/QUOTE] Tarkin was a sound alike. In fact I think the guy who played him on set was also the guy doing the speaking.

Stan has way more recognition than any of these people. He's practically a character all his own. Even before the MCU he'd be a celebrity with his love able personality in everything such as the spiderman game [editline]14th March 2017[/editline] I'm not opposed to other cameos but I feel like the hoops wouldn't be worth it to the studios given the common folk probably wouldn't recognize them by face. I'd wager even some big fans probably haven't bothered to look at photos of some of the people

[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51959791] I'm not opposed to other cameos but I feel like the hoops wouldn't be worth it to the studios given the common folk probably wouldn't recognize them by face. I'd wager even some big fans probably haven't bothered to look at photos of some of the people[/QUOTE] Actually, they have done a number of nods and references to other creators. Its just that Stan has an instantly recognizable look, personality, and voice.

[QUOTE=Demeschik;51945387]For real? I never would have known unless you told me. There is barely any swearing in the Russian dub, they replaced all the fucks with casual stuff like "damn". Was Logan screaming "fuck" repeatedly in that one scene where he beats up a car, by any chance?[/QUOTE] 8 times in various forms [editline]14th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=evlbzltyr;51957101]Their "bias" is The Show Is Bad and that the implementation of Asian culture is clumsy. The point is that it would be entirely possible to write a series where Danny Rand, White Dude, is the Iron Fist, and it not include shoddy attempts at representing Asian culture - the point is that, in the vast majority of reviewers opinions, they fucked it up, and it's awkward in places, offensive in others. That's what the reviews are saying. Not "Iron Fist cannot work because he's white and it's offensive!!1!", like how you seem to be interpreting it. Did you even read any reviews at all, or are you just regurgitating what VenomousBeetle was regurgitating from hearsay over the past few pages? Use your brain, my dude.[/QUOTE] That martial art he learns and the city where his dad is from is literally a magic fucking city where people from every time and place live, they come in many many colors and flavors, by design. Bruce Lee was quoted as an inspiration as much for his philosophy as he was for his ability to perform a jump kick twice his own height. If you don't know shit about the property you should probably figure out your opinion is completely misconstrued and your political bullshit is neither wanted nor has any context other than supporting mindless identity politics whilst having a cushy internet job and a upper middle class upbringing where your worst day was that day they had to close panera bread to remodel the juice bar, what a tragedy that day was, fighting the power while sitting on your ass in your pajamas and emailing your review what a warrior for the cause you are. Context is king. Context is always king.

Dr. Strange was fun, but I felt everything was too short. Origin was too short, progress learning magic was too short, the middle conflict section was a bit disappointing [sp]because he won rather than getting his ass kicked or something similar[/sp] and then the climax was a bit underwhelming. It was fun and enjoyable but, for me, I just really wanted more of everything. Solid 7/10

Who cares about the whole race thing the real disaster with the casting is that Iron Fist has the muscle mass of a sponge IF is supposed to be a super ripped walking weapon of destruction, why does he look like a tiny weenie??

[QUOTE=Nemisis116;51964881]Who cares about the whole race thing the real disaster with the casting is that Iron Fist has the muscle mass of a sponge IF is supposed to be a super ripped walking weapon of destruction, why does he look like a tiny weenie??[/QUOTE] For the past while he's been at about a Spider-Man-Daredevil level build (All three have disguised themselves as eachother, at least DD and Spider-Man as eachother and Iron Fist as Spider-Man and DD, not sure about Spider-Man as Iron Fist), the walking weapon of destruction aspect comes from the Iron Fist power. Plus it serves the purpose of making the visual differences between him and Luke more distinct.

He's always been more agile, his strength comes from concentrated chi, not raw muscle

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51964910]For the past while he's been at about a Spider-Man-Daredevil level build (All three have disguised themselves as eachother, at least DD and Spider-Man as eachother and Iron Fist as Spider-Man and DD, not sure about Spider-Man as Iron Fist), the walking weapon of destruction aspect comes from the Iron Fist power. Plus it serves the purpose of making the visual differences between him and Luke more distinct.[/QUOTE] He has the wolverine in xmen 1 "normal guy in good shape" look going on right now instead of the super shredded comic character look Just not intimidating tbh

You know, ive heard rumors of Iron Fist not getting his suit in his own show (its confirmed for Defender so if thats the case, it likely means Melvin makes him one), but its funny because Iron Fist has an easier excuse for wearing it and an easier means of adapting it than the other 4. But like, Iron Fists outfit is probably the easiest to justify out of all of them and the easiest to implement. [t]http://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Screen-Shot-2017-03-09-at-9.54.40-AM.jpg[/t] See this? Just make his outfit like [t]http://cscdn.marvelheroes.com/costume/en/Store_IronFist_Immortal.png[/t], drop the robe, put on the mask, and there you go. [editline]15th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Nemisis116;51964926]He has the wolverine in xmen 1 "normal guy in good shape" look going on right now instead of the super shredded comic character look Just not intimidating tbh[/QUOTE] Iron Fist has never really looked intimidating even when he was Captain Americas size back in the day. He wore ballerina slippers, my dude.

They're probably unsure about it because people might connect it with the Man Without Fear costume