Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread - Dr. Strangelove - Film, Television and Music

D A R E D E V I L A R E D E V I L [i]PLEASE.[/i]

[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;52387318]D A R E D E V I L A R E D E V I L [i]PLEASE.[/i][/QUOTE] Not happening, sadly. Feige has repeatedly stated that the TV shows are staying in their own little corner away from the movies. Absolutely nothing of consequence from Agents of Shield or the Netflix series has ever affected the films. As far as the Avengers franchise is concerned, Coulson is still dead, Inhumans aren't a thing, and there probably aren't any street level superheroes running around New York beyond the Spiderman. Besides, they're not going to follow up Robert Fucking Downey Jr. with a TV actor. It'll be one of the Avengers, if anyone.

[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;52387216]Wasn't that just a rumor though?[/QUOTE] Evans mentioned multiple times he doesn't want to do these films for too long, he has a limited contract, and, if you think about it, they introduced his possible "replacement" in his second stand-alone film.

[QUOTE=CyclonatorZ;52387436]Not happening, sadly. Feige has repeatedly stated that the TV shows are staying in their own little corner away from the movies. Absolutely nothing of consequence from Agents of Shield or the Netflix series has ever affected the films. As far as the Avengers franchise is concerned, Coulson is still dead, Inhumans aren't a thing, and there probably aren't any street level superheroes running around New York beyond the Spiderman. Besides, they're not going to follow up Robert Fucking Downey Jr. with a TV actor. It'll be one of the Avengers, if anyone.[/QUOTE] Yes some of the shit that's happened on AoS should have definitely been mentioned in the movies. That show being left out of the movies is the one that bothers me the most. The other shows thus far are much more grounded and small scale, for the most part.

[QUOTE=halfer;52387479]Evans mentioned multiple times he doesn't want to do these films for too long, he has a limited contract, and, if you think about it, they introduced his possible "replacement" in his second stand-alone film.[/QUOTE] They've introduced [I]both[/I] of his potential replacements, already. [sp]Bucky and Sam have both taken up at the shield, at some point or another.[/sp] [sp]Odds are, though, it'll be Bucky, because people actually like the Falcon, while the Winter Soldier is still seen as something of a threat in-universe, I think.[/sp]

[QUOTE=insane taco;52387578]Yes some of the shit that's happened on AoS should have definitely been mentioned in the movies. That show being left out of the movies is the one that bothers me the most. The other shows thus far are much more grounded and small scale, for the most part.[/QUOTE] I think the TV shows are basically equivalent to the old Star Wars EU. They're technically canon, in that they're officially sanctioned and marketed as being part of the MCU, but they're B-tier canon. The movies alone are A-tier canon, and they can chose to ignore or even contradict the TV shows whenever Kevin Feige feels like it. I haven't watched enough of Agent of Shield to know whether anything in it has been outright contradicted by the movies, but I'm guessing if that Inhumans movie had ended up happening, it probably would have outright tossed what they've been doing on TV. Thing is, the whole reason Inhumans has been retooled into a TV miniseries is because it was all Ike Perlmutter's idea in the first place - it seems doubtful that Kevin Feige ever wanted to do the Inhumans on the big screen, which was why the TV shows were allowed to start using the characters and concepts almost from the outset. He was never intending to use Agents of Shield Inhuman stories as a foundation for the movie, and the show isn't intended to be anything other than an expanded universe production that succeeds partially by leveraging the Marvel brand name.

I believe this is all about marketing. Movies and tv shows have different demographics. They probably don't want to lose younger fans of the movies because they don't get references from shows they don't want to watch. Sure the films are heavily directed to hardcore fans who know every detail about superheroes but I think the majority of viewers are just casual movie goers. I know a few people who love the movies but "don't have time for tv shows". I still hope to see the Netflix characters on the big screen, though.

It would be neat if Thanos somehow had a impact on even the netflix shows. Like not something big, just something that changes shit up in some way.

"Foggy, Thanos really did a number on reality, I'm starting to believe that all this Hand stuff is actually INTERESTING!"

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;52391016]It would be neat if Thanos somehow had a impact on even the netflix shows. Like not something big, just something that changes shit up in some way.[/QUOTE] Matt Murdock has to represent Thanos in court following the events of Infinity War.

It's weird to see Kevin Feige/Marvel has not come out to clarify what she was saying yet. So something may actually be happening behind the scenes then..

Honestly, best-case scenario, we get them to keep working with Sony like they did on Homecoming. Marvel Studios in charge of an R-rated Venom movie in the MCU starring Tom fucking Hardy, that's like a dream come true. It'd be a miracle if Sony actually learned their place and stopped trying.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;52391016]It would be neat if Thanos somehow had a impact on even the netflix shows. Like not something big, just something that changes shit up in some way.[/QUOTE] Now that you've planted the idea in my head, that [I]would[/I] be pretty interesting to see. Considering how much they go out of their way to reference The Avengers, seeing similar nods and references to Infinity War would definitely be cool.

[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;52391842]Honestly, best-case scenario, we get them to keep working with Sony like they did on Homecoming. Marvel Studios in charge of an R-rated Venom movie in the MCU starring Tom fucking Hardy, that's like a dream come true. It'd be a miracle if Sony actually learned their place and stopped trying.[/QUOTE] Hopefully we will get answers once D23 and SDCC rolls around.

[QUOTE=halfer;52387479]Evans mentioned multiple times he doesn't want to do these films for too long, he has a limited contract, and, if you think about it, they introduced his possible "replacement" in his second stand-alone film.[/QUOTE] Didn't he later come out and say that if they ever needed him for one of the movies he'd totally be willing to do it?

AoS season 4 mid way spoilers (ep 14) [sp]boy is this LMD sub plot dumb. who is the LMD you're an LMD no wait we're all LMDs i guess cut yourself to prove your not an LMD even though we just walked under a scanner that detects LMDs and they're also everywhere i guess? woo hoo LMDs. Not to mention the whole "robots go bad" plot with ada is so predictably dumb that mac and yo yo were both making fun of it really early on. I hope this season gets better, the ghostrider stuff was great but this second act has been weak. Im just waiting till they bring ward back as one[/sp] EDIT: Ep 15 spoilers [Sp] God damnit ward is back in the framework [/Sp]

I'm finally at the halfway point of Marvel's Daredevil second season. After offering me what I think it's the best adaptation of the Punisher in years, the writers thought it was a good idea to push said character aside in favor of fucking Elektra and sudden romance subplots

[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;52393929]I'm finally at the halfway point of Marvel's Daredevil second season. After offering me what I think it's the best adaptation of the Punisher in years, the writers thought it was a good idea to push said character aside in favor of fucking Elektra and sudden romance subplots[/QUOTE] It fucking plummets, dude. I don't even think Elektra and Stick gave bad performances, they're just so much less interesting than Frank. Season finale is pretty good, though.

i really liked it when elektra first showed up. always cold and manipulative, and you couldn't really tell which side she was on. it was the perfect take on the femme fatale archetype (tho it lasted like 2 episodes) but then 10 minutes later they decide the best route to take the character is a [sp]"please love me murdock we belong together"[/sp] type thing which is a good decision because of the following reasons:

[QUOTE=Dr McNinja;52393875]AoS season 4 mid way spoilers (ep 14) [sp]boy is this LMD sub plot dumb. who is the LMD you're an LMD no wait we're all LMDs i guess cut yourself to prove your not an LMD even though we just walked under a scanner that detects LMDs and they're also everywhere i guess? woo hoo LMDs. Not to mention the whole "robots go bad" plot with ada is so predictably dumb that mac and yo yo were both making fun of it really early on. I hope this season gets better, the ghostrider stuff was great but this second act has been weak. Im just waiting till they bring ward back as one[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]The Ghost Rider and Framework arcs are really good, but everything in between is just less interesting. Overall the season is pretty solid. I'm really hoping Ghost Rider gets a spin-off series or makes his way to the movies and maybe expand on the other Ghost Rider that gave him the power.[/sp]

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDUm4WLB4aI[/media] dang... This is really good kind of like classic horror.

[QUOTE=Dr McNinja;52393875]AoS season 4 mid way spoilers (ep 14) [sp]boy is this LMD sub plot dumb. who is the LMD you're an LMD no wait we're all LMDs i guess cut yourself to prove your not an LMD even though we just walked under a scanner that detects LMDs and they're also everywhere i guess? woo hoo LMDs. Not to mention the whole "robots go bad" plot with ada is so predictably dumb that mac and yo yo were both making fun of it really early on. I hope this season gets better, the ghostrider stuff was great but this second act has been weak. Im just waiting till they bring ward back as one[/sp] EDIT: Ep 15 spoilers [Sp] God damnit ward is back in the framework [/Sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Ada gets better, wayy better[/sp]

embargo is lifted for social media opinions of spider-man. Lots of people praising it as the best spider-man yet. Tony Stark isn't in the movie as much as marketing leads people to believe [B]spider-man homecoming movie spoiler[/B] [sp] he's only in it for about 15 minutes [/sp] [editline]24th June 2017[/editline] [media]https://twitter.com/MCU_Tweets/status/878430820192722944[/media]

So I happened upon some "spoilers" for Homecoming and holy fuck I hope this is just someone on /co/ rusing, because this sounds fucking terrible. Didn't read too much, but apparently *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* [sp]Michelle mentions that her name is "Michelle Jackson", but her friends call her MJ. So she's kinda sorta maybe MJ except not really. Also Aunt May finds out that Peter is Spider-Man.[/sp] I refuse to believe that they fucked it up THAT badly, I seriously can't think of that shit working even in context. Might be totally fake, but I'm actually worried now.

From what I've been told by someone saying they have seen it [B]spider-man spoilers[/B] Her [sp]last name isn't revealed. But her friends sometimes call her MJ. Aunt May sees Peter putting on the Spidey suit in his bedroom [/sp]

[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;52395665]So I happened upon some "spoilers" for Homecoming and holy fuck I hope this is just someone on /co/ rusing, because this sounds fucking terrible. Didn't read too much, but apparently *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* [sp]Michelle mentions that her name is "Michelle Jackson", but her friends call her MJ. So she's kinda sorta maybe MJ except not really. Also Aunt May finds out that Peter is Spider-Man.[/sp] I refuse to believe that they fucked it up THAT badly, I seriously can't think of that shit working even in context. Might be totally fake, but I'm actually worried now.[/QUOTE] Eh, i wouldn't worry because if that's true then that just means there throwing a curve ball at us and [sp]The real mary jane will probably appear later on down the line in the sequels and they did this to throw people off and created a original character instead just with the same initials[/sp] We'll see what happens.

[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;52395708]From what I've been told by someone saying they have seen it [B]spider-man spoilers[/B] [sp] Aunt May sees Peter putting on the Spidey suit in his bedroom [/sp][/QUOTE] Sounds like a potential post credit scene

So, I'm also watching through Agents of Shield Season 4 and [sp] Do we KNOW if the other Ghost Rider was Johnny Blaze? I didn't know the spirit could just pop into some other dude at will too, although it was neat to see the more traditional "Skull on Fire" than the stylized variant Robbie has. Also those few minutes Mack had it were pretty kick ass too. [/sp]

[QUOTE=The Terminator;52395871]So, I'm also watching through Agents of Shield Season 4 and [sp] Do we KNOW if the other Ghost Rider was Johnny Blaze? I didn't know the spirit could just pop into some other dude at will too, although it was neat to see the more traditional "Skull on Fire" than the stylized variant Robbie has. Also those few minutes Mack had it were pretty kick ass too. [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]There were references to the circus Johnny grew up in, specifically in the garage they found the Darkhold.[/sp]

[QUOTE=AaronM202;52395901][sp]There were references to the circus Johnny grew up in, specifically in the garage they found the Darkhold.[/sp][/QUOTE] Also it was confirmed by the people who work on the show