Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread - Dr. Strangelove - Film, Television and Music

Right, but I don't feel like she's necessarily dark enough to pull the reverse. Also she's in dark clothing still, which kinda spreads the color palette around.

I'm a little disappointed. I can kind of get over the skin change to some extent, but an afro just seems impractical for an assassin. One guy brought up a fair point about Negasonic's departure from the comics; personally, I never heard of Negasonic Teenage Warhead before the Deadpool movie, which made her appearance more practical. Domino was always a character whom stuck out and had an interesting appearance.

[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;52526351]I'm a little disappointed. I can kind of get over the skin change to some extent, but an afro just seems impractical for an assassin. One guy brought up a fair point about Negasonic's departure from the comics; personally, I never heard of Negasonic Teenage Warhead before the Deadpool movie, which made her appearance more practical. Domino was always a character whom stuck out and had an interesting appearance.[/QUOTE] The point about Negasonic isnt as strong because she still had the kind of goth look. Also Negasonic was a generic cannon fodder character who showed up for like 4 or 5 panels in 2 issues total in like 2005 or something.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;52526392]The point about Negasonic isnt as strong because she still had the kind of goth look. Also Negasonic was a generic cannon fodder character who showed up for like 4 or 5 panels in 2 issues total in like 2005 or something.[/QUOTE] Right, that'd be my counter-argument, as well. She's such an obscure character only there because they only allowed a select few X-Men characters and the film actually improved her appearance.

That's supposed to be Domino? :why:

Got to thinking about it, if they took off the eye makeup that would be a good costume for Misty.

[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;52525487][media]https://twitter.com/VancityReynolds/status/892049064858075136[/media] Could have done without the afro but whatever I guess.[/QUOTE] [t]https://i.imgur.com/BtqTzkI.jpg[/t]

looks more like misty knight and the patch isn't pronounced enough.

Am I the only one who liked it?

I'm indifferent to it

I actually had a thought which would be a cool bait and switch where Domino is shown as being an inverted version of the comic one, but the vitiligo spreads until it covers everything but an oval around her right eye, and she becomes the comic looking Domino.

If you want to be progressive why not instead of black woman cast an asian woman? That way you can keep the pale with black eye look without looking weird AND you didn't cast a white woman. Or are asians white now? That's just a thought, in the end I don't care, really. I know Deadpool a bit, same with Cable. Domino I have no clue about so if the actress is good that's all that matters.

Will Cap finally say the line in Avengers: Infinity War? Because I hope so.

[QUOTE=Marden;52532299]If you want to be progressive why not instead of black woman cast an asian woman? That way you can keep the pale with black eye look without looking weird AND you didn't cast a white woman. Or are asians white now?.[/QUOTE] I dont know the reasons behind this role and design in particular but it seems in Hollywoodland, whenever something is said to be diverse, that really seems to translate to it has black actors, i dont really ever see it happen with hispanic or asian actors except for when people want to bitch about Iron Fist.

[QUOTE=Marden;52532299]If you want to be progressive why not instead of black woman cast an asian woman? That way you can keep the pale with black eye look without looking weird AND you didn't cast a white woman. Or are asians white now? That's just a thought, in the end I don't care, really. I know Deadpool a bit, same with Cable. Domino I have no clue about so if the actress is good that's all that matters.[/QUOTE] From what I've seen, people are selective with these raceflopping arguments. A prime example of this is the outrage that followed The Last Airbender, terrible movie in its own right, but it received harsh critique for whitewashing the Water Tribe (whom are designed after Inuit people) but said nothing about the Fire Nation being entirely replaced by South Asian/Indian actors and aestethic (despite being based on Feudal Japanese). Then there's The Dark Tower whose protagonist, The Gunslinger, is modelled off Clint Eastwood, and it's tied to the overall conception of The Dark Tower mythology. Heaven forbid if you have a problem with Idris Elba's casting of the character. The general narrative appears to be, and I'm only speaking from my own observations and experiences I couldn't tell you percentages or statistics, that some people are okay with changes if it's white-to-"minority" but the reverse is unacceptable regardless of context.

But that's kind of the point of these changes for the sake of diversity, to change white characters to minorities not the other way around.

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;52532827]But that's kind of the point of these changes for the sake of diversity, to change white characters to minorities not the other way around.[/QUOTE] That'll never not annoy me in these scenarios because you could more productively use these opportunities to show off actually existing minority characters instead of changing existing ones for brand recognition. Like when people were campaining for Iron Fist to be asian, you could just work in Shang Chi and make everyone happy. As much as i dont particularly like the character because of how disappointing and boring he can be, i'm at least fine with Peter not being arbitrarily made black and instead Miles Morales is going to be in the animated cg movie. You could go on with this kind of thing with Marvel or DC movies.

on the topic of casting. what do you think a good fantastic 4 movie cast would be? I was thinking maybe(?) david duchovny as mr fantastic, but I really dunno for anyone else

[QUOTE=Dazzgrace;52532890]on the topic of casting. what do you think a good fantastic 4 movie cast would be? I was thinking maybe(?) david duchovny as mr fantastic, but I really dunno for anyone else[/QUOTE] Can we get Michael Chiklis back.

Those original FF 2005 movies, the cast all looked like who they were supposed to be, probably the best thing about them. [editline]2nd August 2017[/editline] Sue and Johnny had probably the least resemblance but not enough that its bothersome

I just hope the rumored fantastic 4 movie really takes the lighthearted approach, the fantastic 4 never really worked well in an extremely serious fashion

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;52532827]But that's kind of the point of these changes for the sake of diversity, to change white characters to minorities not the other way around.[/QUOTE] It's the point, but that doesn't make it any less retarded.

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;52532827]But that's kind of the point of these changes for the sake of diversity, to change white characters to minorities not the other way around.[/QUOTE] So, why change the Fire Nation from Japanese to South Asians/Indians? Why contrive changes to Roland- The Gunslinger's- race when there's no contextual reason for it (the "next cycle" excuse is a weak explaination and conjures more questions...)? My point is, this "diversity appeal" seems to occur to characters like Domino, The Gunslinger, The Fire Nations, whose ethnicity/color is part of their character and the context and aestethics of their character are ignored. Making Luke Cage white or latino, for instance, doesn't make sense for the character because, as the Hero of Harlem he represents a neighborhood that is predominantly and historically a black community. Domino could work with a black actress painted inhumanely white/off-white/pale blue and it could be considered albinism, but people would cry racism and "whitewashing" despite the context of the source character (Hell, where's the outcry for an actual albino actor to play Caliban in X-Men Apocalypse and Logan, where's "albino recognition") . If you have a problem with a character being race flopped to a black character you're automatically racist; but vice versa it's fine, good on you, you're ~progressive~. Not saying that all changes are bad, as many movies have creatively changed characters for the better; it's just that the changes that work compliment the characters as opposed to the changes that don't seem to add anything, but take away part of the character. Ones that worked are Bolivar Trask and Mystique: the former was a generic suited villain, but Dinklage's presence as an actor helped and his dwarfism created a kind of dramatic irony (since, he is essentially a mutation from your average human being); the latter wore clothes in the comics, but her movie counterpart was fully nude, which complimented her distaste in non-mutants and her personal freedom for what she is and her chameleon powers. One's that don't work would be like Ryan Reynold's Deadpool from Wolverine: Origins. Holy shit, you take away his mouth as an ironic jab at the "merc with a mouth" and make him a mutant cesspool, it robbed the character of who he was and made him into a generic super-powered baddie. On top of that, not every movie needs to have a "diversity quota" (or shouldn't) because then you're not thinking about characters, you're thinking about tokens (this guy is your "black demographic" this one your "gay demographic", or "female demographic") and it makes the characters artificial. In the end though, it's a case to case basis and there are changes that work and changes that don't. Personally, I don't think Domino's changes necessarily work visually and I think the afro is silly for an assassin ("natural black woman's hair" or not). I know Hollywood's poor history with race but I think people are forcing "diversity" when they have to change key features of a character just to fill a "quota". If they really cared about diversity in Hollywood, where's all the original screenplays with diverse characters? Where was the diverse cast for Gods of Egypt or the Chinese lead/poster-child for The Great Wall. Those were opportunities to "represent" and they blew it.

[QUOTE=Dazzgrace;52532930]I just hope the rumored fantastic 4 movie really takes the lighthearted approach, the fantastic 4 never really worked well in an extremely serious fashion[/QUOTE] Fantastic Four need to be explorers. That's their gimmick.

If Marvel ever gets control of the F4, I really hope there's a throw-away line about there being other Fantastic 4 movies, something along these lines... [quote]Mr. Fantastic: "Captain America in the flesh! We haven't met but I'm Dr. Reed Richards, this is my wife Susan Storm, I see you've already met Johnny." Human Torch: "He's never heard of us." The Thing: "Of course he hasn't. He was a popsicle the last time we were on earth." Invisible Woman: "Mr. Stark, surely you've heard of the Fantastic Four. Howard had to have mentioned us." Iron Man: "Oh yeah, you must be Ringo." Mr: Fantastic: "Were there other Fantastic Fours since we were gone?" *beat* Captain America: "No. Not the Fantastic Four you had in mind." Ant Man: "Nigel Tufnel, Derek Smalls, David St. Hubbins and..." Falcon:"...and there's always someone on drums."[/quote]

I mean, they have to reference evans being the human torch. It's too much of a missed opportunity.

Just kill him in Infinity War, give him a haircut, and recast him as Human Torch :vs:

I'm so excited for this to fail. [quote]Simply awful. I'm so disappointed since I generally love everything Marvel does. But this is absolutely terrible. The dialogue is atrocious. The fight sequences are shockingly choreographed. The sets (or more-so the obvious green-screen) aren't that crash hot either. It's only saving grace is Lockjaw who is adorable. As one of the few people that actually liked Iron Fist, I can easily say that this is Scott Buck's worst work yet. (Tyler | 8/3/2017) [/quote] [url]http://www.spoilertv.com/2017/05/spoilertv-201718-pilot-shows-reviews.html[/url] [video=youtube;rhVmE33VBXw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhVmE33VBXw[/video]

It's a shame how badly this was made and handled. I think the inhumans could have really scratched the mutant itch that we havent seen in the mcu

[QUOTE=Dazzgrace;52536975]It's a shame how badly this was made and handled. I think the inhumans could have really scratched the mutant itch that we havent seen in the mcu[/QUOTE] They're not Mutants and they were never supposed to be Mutants, they shouldnt scratch that itch.