[QUOTE=DELL;50161774]Well I no longer can stand chuck. That ending was really nice as well.[/QUOTE]
tbh [sp]jimmy fucked chuck first. he kept mesa verde 100% legally. it's just chuck has finally started to play dirty too. i am still rooting for jimmy though.[/sp]
You son of a bitch Chuck I felt bad for you
[QUOTE=matt000024;50161809]tbh [sp]jimmy fucked chuck first. he kept mesa verde 100% legally. it's just chuck has finally started to play dirty too. i am still rooting for jimmy though.[/sp][/QUOTE][sp]well but also chuck didn't let jimmy join hhm, so who *really* started it?[/sp]
[QUOTE=matt000024;50161809]tbh [sp]jimmy fucked chuck first. he kept mesa verde 100% legally. it's just chuck has finally started to play dirty too. i am still rooting for jimmy though.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Chuck has been screwing Jimmy for a long time way before mesa verde. He also didn't fuck over Jimmy with that he screwed Kim knowing it would fuck with him on an emotional level. Which is already him playing dirty just hiding it in plain sight. The money wouldn't of mattered as Jimmy and Kim have proven that they can get shit done.
The legal end is completely fair and what Jimmy did was not legal. Which if it really was just a client steal then I'd be rooting for Chuck. However you have to look at their whole relationship and that Chuck has always been out to get him because he hates him. Jimmy had every opportunity to outright get rid of Chuck and then it would be a complete cover up. He didn't though and still makes sure he's alright. Everyone else covering up for Jimmy shows that they know Chuck even being legally right should be letting it go.[/sp]
Finale spoilers: [sp]Was there a scene before the one where Jimmy is running up to Chuck in the hospital? You guys are talking about a scene where Chuck is with their mother in her final moments but I didn't see that. I think my DVR cut off. If so, what happened?[/sp]
[QUOTE=OvB;50162241]Finale spoilers: [sp]Was there a scene before the one where Jimmy is running up to Chuck in the hospital? You guys are talking about a scene where Chuck is with their mother in her final moments but I didn't see that. I think my DVR cut off. If so, what happened?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Flashback. Chuck and Jimmy are next to their sickly mother at the hospital, Jimmy leaves to go get them some lunch. Their mom dies a few moments later, calling out Jimmy's name (and not Chuck's) before she dies. Jimmy comes back to find out that she died, asks Chuck if she said anything before she died, Chuck says no.[/sp]
I still think [sp]Hector getting into the wheelchair has at leas something to do with mike[/sp]
[QUOTE=Killuah;50162506]I still think [sp]Hector getting into the wheelchair has at leas something to do with mike[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I was expecting Mike to shoot at Nacho but miss and hit Hector in a manner that disables him. I thought this was foreshadowed by Mike missing the bulls eye on the first shot and the talk about cold barrel, etc[/sp]
[QUOTE=OvB;50162584][sp]I was expecting Mike to shoot at Nacho but miss and hit Hector in a manner that disables him. I thought this was foreshadowed by Mike missing the bulls eye on the first shot and the talk about cold barrel, etc[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I thought he was finally going to hit "fuck it" in that scene and shoot through nacho into Hector, and the meatshield caused it to only be a disabling wound.[/sp]
god dammit we have to wait a year for more better call saul goodness :(
[QUOTE=Levelog;50163047][sp]I thought he was finally going to hit "fuck it" in that scene and shoot through nacho into Hector, and the meatshield caused it to only be a disabling wound.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Are you sure he was aiming for Hector though? Personally I felt like he was going after Nacho there. Hector doesn't really suspect him for anything and has probably already forgotten about him, while Nacho could slip any time and give him up. Nacho is the only thing that might still cause him problems.[/sp]
[QUOTE=simkas;50163086][sp]Are you sure he was aiming for Hector though? Personally I felt like he was going after Nacho there. Hector doesn't really suspect him for anything and has probably already forgotten about him, while Nacho could slip any time and give him up. Nacho is the only thing that might still cause him problems.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]He was adamant that he hadn't forgotten about him. At the least then he had a clear shot on Nacho, and he definitely wouldn't mind Hector as collateral damage.[/sp]
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Bravo, that was an amazing cliffhanger.
I'm kind of biased because if it was me [sp]I wouldn't play along with Chuck's "sickness" and have him committed. I don't care when he suffers because I see it as a mental sickness. The problem with Jimmy is clear and I agree with Chuck. He has a good heart but he can't help himself. On the other hand Chuck wasn't the better man and didn't either cut ties with Jimmy or stand out of his way. Secretly undermining Jimmy directly or through other people isn't very honorable. I can see it must have been hard not being the favourite son even after all he did but these revenges don't make Chuck any better as a person than Jimmy in my eyes. They should have confronted their issues way sooner before we got this mess.[/sp]
Which I can't wait to watch next season.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50162506]I still think [sp]Hector getting into the wheelchair has at leas something to do with mike[/sp][/QUOTE]
IMO that would be very corny, and iirc breaking bad mentions that [sp]Hector had a severe stroke[/sp]
season 3 spoilers.
[url]http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/19/better-call-saul-creators-confirm-episode-title-hidden-message?abthid=5716abf23164e9042000001c[/url]
[QUOTE=Judas;50163360]IMO that would be very corny, and iirc breaking bad mentions that [sp]Hector had a severe stroke[/sp][/QUOTE]
Yeah but some other severe injury could have caused it.
That was a fantastic finale. I'm sad that we likely have to wait until next year for more.
[QUOTE=OvB;50162584][sp]I was expecting Mike to shoot at Nacho but miss and hit Hector in a manner that disables him. I thought this was foreshadowed by Mike missing the bulls eye on the first shot and the talk about cold barrel, etc[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Why would he want to shoot at Nacho? He was aiming to kill Hector but Nacho kept blocking the shot.
And I don't know a lot about bullet trajectory or penetration, but I also bet he wasn't willing to shoot through Nacho to kill Hector.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Swiket;50164213][sp]Why would he want to shoot at Nacho? He was aiming to kill Hector but Nacho kept blocking the shot.
And I don't know a lot about bullet trajectory or penetration, but I also bet he wasn't willing to shoot through Nacho to kill Hector.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]With a 170gr(?) .308 through a soft target it'd certainly still do some good damage.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Robman8908;50161450]Y'know, I wouldn't mind seeing a really short (maybe one season) series just about the arms dealer. That guy is a really interesting character for not being around much or having even that much to do. The part is just played really well, and you get this sense of him dealing with all kinds of characters.
Maybe just a miniseries where each episode is a different client, ending on Walt or Mike. Hell, I guarantee Vince could make that interesting.[/QUOTE]
Jim Beaver is an amazing actor
Watch Deadwood and Justified, he plays two absolutely amazing roles in both.
[QUOTE=Judas;50163360]IMO that would be very corny, and iirc breaking bad mentions that [sp]Hector had a severe stroke[/sp][/QUOTE]
Maybe Mike gets him so mad that something snaps? Either way, it's a good opportunity for them to show on-screen how he gets where he ends up in Breaking Bad.
[QUOTE=Swiket;50164213][sp]Why would he want to shoot at Nacho? He was aiming to kill Hector but Nacho kept blocking the shot.
And I don't know a lot about bullet trajectory or penetration, but I also bet he wasn't willing to shoot through Nacho to kill Hector.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Nacho is arguably his biggest liability at the moment.[/sp]
fuck chuck
the foreshadowing this season has been too good though, in season 2 episode 5 where its a [sp]flashback with jimmy having dinner with chuck and his wife, they made a ton of jokes about how lawyers are crooked and chuck was getting bothered but then he made his own lawyer joke at the end, could be foreshadowing how he hates jimmy being crooked but in the end he starts playing dirty too[/sp]
edit : there we go
[QUOTE=Levelog;50164240][sp]With a 170gr(?) .308 through a soft target it'd certainly still do some good damage.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]The friendly bearded gun dealer mentions in the target shooting scene that hes using HSM 168 grain boat tail hollow point. From looking at the box, it looks like this stuff:[/sp]
[t]http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2100/8521b/products/12756/images/21394/hsm_168gr_hpbt_match_ammo__41222.1459292875.1280.1280.jpg?c=2[/t]
[sp]Its match grade ammo, and it works more like FMJ than hollow point, so it overpenetrates too much for deer hunting. So yeah, looks like that stuff would go right through right through Taco into Hector.
source: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=692707[/sp]
damn, leave it to these guys to make a show so accurate, the ammo ballistics and even the ammo box is accurate. Even [sp]the cartridge that mike set next to the rifle before loading it is exactly the same round that they were talking about.[/sp]
This is the kind of wonderful detail that has ruined pretty much every other show for me.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;50165462][sp]The friendly bearded gun dealer mentions in the target shooting scene that hes using HSM 168 grain boat tail hollow point. From looking at the box, it looks like this stuff:[/sp]
[t]http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2100/8521b/products/12756/images/21394/hsm_168gr_hpbt_match_ammo__41222.1459292875.1280.1280.jpg?c=2[/t]
[sp]Its match grade ammo, and it works more like FMJ than hollow point, so it overpenetrates too much for deer hunting. So yeah, looks like that stuff would go right through right through Taco into Hector.
source: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=692707[/sp]
damn, leave it to these guys to make a show so accurate, the ammo ballistics and even the ammo box is accurate. Even [sp]the cartridge that mike set next to the rifle before loading it is exactly the same round that they were talking about.[/sp]
This is the kind of wonderful detail that has ruined pretty much every other show for me.[/QUOTE]
Apparently some of the assistant writers did a lot of legal research for the show and most of the documents on-screen have actual legal stuff on them, since they're shooting in 4K and they can't get away with lorem ipsum anymore
[QUOTE=butters757;50158740][sp]So who do you think left the note on Mike's car? Gus? Nacho? Pryce? Walter White? Mike himself? [/sp][/QUOTE]
Someone else on the BCS subreddit already proved that it was [sp]The 1991 Denver Broncos[/sp] [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/betterCallSaul/comments/4ffmym/who_do_you_think_left_that_note_on_mikes_car/d28fwuz[/url] :v:
[QUOTE=OvB;50164607][sp]Nacho is arguably his biggest liability at the moment.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]The show has already demonstrated that Mike, at this point in time, goes to great lengths to avoid having to kill anyone. Tuco, the two henchmen who broke into his house, the truck driver.
If Mike wouldn't even kill Tuco, I doubt he'd up and randomly decide to go snipe Nacho to tie off a loose end.
He was absolutely aiming for Hector but Nacho obscured his shot. He then seemed to struggle with the idea of taking the shot anyway, killing Nacho and Hector both. At least that's how I interpreted the scene.[/sp]
[QUOTE=MoralSupport;50166341]I totally forgot that Nacho is played by the villain from Far Cry 3.[/QUOTE]
The guy plays his parts really well, too.
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