[QUOTE=junker154;42148072]Actually, I really like the Nazis. Todd and his Uncle are really cool dudes.[/QUOTE]
Alright, I don't know about his uncle and that whole gang, but Todd is a fucking terrible person.
[sp]Yeah Todd is a terrible person, but his white supremacist nazi friends and family might be all right.
Todd's probably the only one of them who isn't completely racist and a nazi.
It's safe to say Todd, his uncle, and their entire gang are all terrible human beings.[/sp]
[QUOTE=junker154;42148072]Actually, I really like the Nazis. Todd and his Uncle are really cool dudes.[/QUOTE]
lol what
how
[QUOTE=ZF911;42148667][sp]There's a difference between "They should be hitting their targets" and "I want them to hit their targets."[/sp][/QUOTE]
Most people I've encountered do want them to hit their targets, myself included
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;42147262][sp]I think Jesse said that it was 10 grand a minute. Though Walt probably drove wayyyy over the speed limit once he got off to the smaller roads, so that would have cut down the time significantly. [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] Oh god, typo. I meant to say 10 grand a minute, dunno why I typed out an hour. Either way, 10 grand a minute for an hour and a half still wouldn't even dent that guys money supply [/sp]
[QUOTE=ZF911;42149492][sp]Yeah Todd is a terrible person, but his white supremacist nazi friends and family might be all right.
Todd's probably the only one of them who isn't completely racist and a nazi.
It's safe to say Todd, his uncle, and their entire gang are all terrible human beings.[/sp][/QUOTE]
The Nazi's are bad people, but they have reasons and a philosophy. Morally reprehensible ones, of course, but they do things because of their beliefs. Assholes on the inside and outside. Todd on the other hand is a sociopath. He is super friendly and comes across as gentle, but doesn't give murder a second thought and is willing to kill anyone at any time at the drop of a hat. Even a child, and he clearly didn't lose a single wink over it. He has no loyalty or beliefs, other than whoever pays him more. The Nazi's are despicable people, but Todd is the most dangerous, because you might even think he's your best friend right before he shoots you in the face.
[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;42150718][sp] Oh god, typo. I meant to say 10 grand a minute, dunno why I typed out an hour. Either way, 10 grand a minute for an hour and a half still wouldn't even dent that guys money supply [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Probably not, but you have to think about it from Walt's point of view. He has sacrificed a lot to make money for his family, the idea of Jesse burning it away sounds incredibly scary. Jesse isn't very reliable either: Walt could have come at the site and two or three barrels burning merrily. If we think about this from a Walt-like calculative view, Jesse could have snapped and burned away all barrels in an instant if he got angry enough.[/sp]
[sp]Plus Jesse wouldn't probably bother counting the money, he'd be burning them in 10K stacks for the first 5 minutes and then he'd notice that it would be too slow.[/sp]
Just showed my parents the first episode, and they're now hooked.
Todd just isn't smart -- he doesn't have enough emotional intelligence (and all-around intelligence) to tell that killing people is wrong. He's not a sociopath.
And yes, emotional intelligence is an actual thing -- look it up.
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;42151561]I don't understand why people always see Walt as the bad guy. Saving Jesse by [sp]driving over those two thugs of Gus[/sp] is what basically ruined everything. After that, it was Jesse who [sp]switched sides and there was no way to get him back at Walt's side, other than to poison Brock and blame Gus[/sp].
Jesse is the bad guy. He isn't necessarily evil, especially compared to Walt's actions, but he is far from being "good". Manipulation my ass. He is and has always been nothing but trouble.[/QUOTE]
Jesse acts purely on his emotions, as opposed to Walt who does everything logically (except when it comes to Jesse - thats when he gets emotional too (He feels like a son to him)). While Jesse [I]can[/I] be blamed for causing bad shit to happen, he never thinks far enough to think of the consequenses. Its the same as blaming a kid for doing something they have no understanding of.
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;42152339]Jesse acts purely on his emotions, as opposed to Walt who does everything logically (except when it comes to Jesse - thats when he gets emotional too (He feels like a son to him)). While Jesse [I]can[/I] be blamed for causing bad shit to happen, he never thinks far enough to think of the consequenses. Its the same as blaming a kid for doing something they have no understanding of.[/QUOTE]
yeah
spoilers:
[url]http://puu.sh/4oAWq.jpg[/url]
[QUOTE=ForDaNords;42152305]Todd just isn't smart -- he doesn't have enough emotional intelligence (and all-around intelligence) to tell that killing people is wrong. He's not a sociopath.
And yes, emotional intelligence is an actual thing -- look it up.[/QUOTE]
Emotional Intelligence is not well defined and a rather debateable concept in science, still I agree with you. Todd doesn't see a problem with killing people but he's not a complete nutcase, just doing his job.
[QUOTE=Judas;42152849]yeah
spoilers:
[url]http://puu.sh/4oAWq.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]
really dumb list. theyve both done terrible things, you can spin either of them into being monsters or saints. the whole point is that it's not black and white. they both have good intentions.
[QUOTE=Judas;42152849]yeah
spoilers:
[url]http://puu.sh/4oAWq.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]
This list completely disregards the idea of morality that is present in the show though. It's difficult to boil down the characters to a state of "good or evil".
[QUOTE=ZF911;42148667][sp]There's a difference between "They should be hitting their targets" and "I want them to hit their targets."[/sp][/QUOTE]
Yeah, you're right, there is.
And the former applies here.
[editline]11th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;42153215]This list completely disregards the idea of morality that is present in the show though. It's difficult to boil down the characters to a state of "good or evil".[/QUOTE]
That's true, also one of BrBa's awesome characteristics, like the "not falling for bullshit tropes", except occasionally, sadly.
Also the list doesn't state how much of a hypocrite Walt is.
I've never been so conflicted when choosing sides in a show.
Walt does horrible things, but practically all of it is justified (Protecting family/Jesse, etc)
Jesse makes bad decisions, but once again, his heart is in the right place.
[QUOTE=Judas;42152849]yeah
spoilers:
[url]http://puu.sh/4oAWq.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]
"This is what Walt apologists actually believe"
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;42153922]"This is what Walt apologists actually believe"[/QUOTE]
Walt is not a bad man.
Walt is not a good or a bad man.
Oh so that's why the show is called Breaking Morally Ambiguous
[QUOTE=overpain;42154059]Walt is not a bad man.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoldenBullet;42154339]Walt is not a good or a bad man.[/QUOTE]
Walt is not a man
[img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltp5fhS5f81r36jr2o1_1280.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;42154397]Oh so that's why the show is called Breaking Morally Ambiguous[/QUOTE]
Learn your southern colloquialisms.
i understand breaking bad as it shows that every human being has a darker side, only the trigger for it must be activated
[QUOTE=Rusty100;42153172]really dumb list. theyve both done terrible things, you can spin either of them into being monsters or saints. the whole point is that it's not black and white. they both have good intentions.[/QUOTE]
Most of Walt's problems stem from being associated with and caring for Jesse, who is a complete and utter fucking tool until he learns from Walt (and anyone he met because of Walt, like Mike). Walt should have told Jesse to fuck off, let him die, or outright killed him long ago, and 3/4s of that shit wouldn't have happened. In fact, Jesse should have been removed from the picture once Walt made contact with Gus. He could have cooked for Gus, made his 12mil or whatever it was, moved on and no one would be the wiser.
i think gus + walt would have worked well together if it wasn't for jesse and his ~feelings~
I'm just a bit concerned about the next episode. [sp]I fear no one will die during the shootout which will be just silly. I think at least Gomez has to die. I don't care about the angle, the nazis seemed like they kill people for a living and had much better gear and numbers. Hank and Gomez have 2 pistols and a shotgun. They need to pull some big tricks to make me not disappointed if Hank wins the fight.[/sp]
That [I]Better Call Saul[/I] Spin-off is happening.
[QUOTE]AMC has signed up for a Breaking Bad spinoff.
[...]
No word on when the show will hit the air, though it's not likely before the second half of next year.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2013/09/11/breaking-bad-spinoff-saul-goodman/2801281/[/url]
[sp]I want Hank and Gomez to survive, but i want Mr White to escape.[/sp]
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