[QUOTE=Sungrazer;42155949]Most of Walt's problems stem from being associated with and caring for Jesse, who is a complete and utter fucking tool until he learns from Walt (and anyone he met because of Walt, like Mike). Walt should have told Jesse to fuck off, let him die, or outright killed him long ago, and 3/4s of that shit wouldn't have happened. In fact, Jesse should have been removed from the picture once Walt made contact with Gus. He could have cooked for Gus, made his 12mil or whatever it was, moved on and no one would be the wiser.[/QUOTE]
[sp]tbh walt would've probably cut jesse off around the time he started working for gus, especially considering he and jesse weren't on exactly good terms after hank beat the shit out of jesse, but because jesse went on that tirade about how if he ever got caught cooking meth on his own he'd rat on walt to avoid jail time, walt had to keep jesse on a short leash. the only way he could do that was if he brought jesse in to keep cooking with him, which is, unfortunately for walt, the root of all his problems mid-season 3 onwards[/sp]
During the whole Show I really liked Jesse and cared for him but his state now is just pathethic. I wish he could be a bit more of the Jesse that we experienced in the earlier seasons.
Seeing him in this miserable state is really saddening.
[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;42157220]That [I]Better Call Saul[/I] Spin-off is happening.
[url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2013/09/11/breaking-bad-spinoff-saul-goodman/2801281/[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm really glad of one-hour format and prequel story. It means that we probably won't see Huell (one can hope), but it gives a hope to see some [sp]Mike[/sp]
[QUOTE=Marden;42156884]I'm just a bit concerned about the next episode. [sp]I fear no one will die during the shootout which will be just silly. I think at least Gomez has to die. I don't care about the angle, the nazis seemed like they kill people for a living and had much better gear and numbers. Hank and Gomez have 2 pistols and a shotgun. They need to pull some big tricks to make me not disappointed if Hank wins the fight.[/sp][/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure [sp] Hanks dead for sure. This seems to be the point of no return, and the cliffhanger was probably there exclusively to build hype, I don't think they're getting out of this. [/sp]
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;42155949]Most of Walt's problems stem from being associated with and caring for Jesse, who is a complete and utter fucking tool until he learns from Walt (and anyone he met because of Walt, like Mike). Walt should have told Jesse to fuck off, let him die, or outright killed him long ago, and 3/4s of that shit wouldn't have happened. In fact, Jesse should have been removed from the picture once Walt made contact with Gus. He could have cooked for Gus, made his 12mil or whatever it was, moved on and no one would be the wiser.[/QUOTE]
Walter is not that heartless. Jesse used to be his student, then his teacher, then his partner. That is not a person who you'd just let die in a crack house somewhere
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After the time machine's hover conversion in 2015, the DeLorean's radiation shielding wasn't as thick as it should have been, which led to radiation leaks within the time vehicle itself. Due to this radiation leak, Jennifer Parker, Marty McFly's girlfriend and future wife, died due to cancer. Devastated by Jennifer's death, Marty McFly changes his name and moves to New Mexico to try and get a new lease on life. There, inspired by the scientific work of Doc Brown, he went off to college and eventually co-founds Grey Matter. Obsessed with Doc Brown's invention of time travel, Marty (now Walter White) tries to find the secret to Doc Brown's flux capacitor, trying in vain to just have one more moment with Jennifer, taking up all of his time and burning through most of his money. Eventually Elliot finds out and calls White mad and ejects him from the company he helped to create. He now moves to Albuquerque and becomes a school teacher, still desperately trying to spread the wonder of science that Doc Brown taught him. The only thing White has left of his past life is his calculator watch. Eventually White realizes he has become entirely Mr. White and abandons his calculator watch in favor of Jesse's gift.
[QUOTE=Joz;42157463]I'm really glad of one-hour format and prequel story. It means that we probably won't see Huell (one can hope), but it gives a hope to see some [sp]Mike[/sp][/QUOTE]
i don't see why not. it's obvious that saul has dealt with all the major criminals throughout the show, and the small-timers as well.
i think we could see huell and coby, perhaps just as they're starting with him.
[QUOTE=TCB;42156720]i think gus + walt would have worked well together if it wasn't for jesse and his ~feelings~[/QUOTE]
no offense but were you even paying attention that season
Walt's insistence on working with Jesse (so Walt's emotions) was the biggest source of conflict.
Hell in season 4 Gus tried to replace Walt with Jesse
[QUOTE=Joz;42157463]It means that we probably won't see Huell (one can hope)[/QUOTE]
Really? You don't like Huell?
So I was thinking about this last night...
[sp]From the way the gunfight is going it's entirely plausible that Hank actually survives, Gomez is a dead man though. He was the furthest away from cover when he began to move over to the car and looks like he stands around for too long. So I think Gomez is definitely a dead man. Hank on the other hand could survive since he was closer to the car when he started to move, it's entirely possible that he gets so close to Walter that the Nazis stop shooting in fear they kill Walter and lose the ability to make the pure meth.
I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's certainly a possibility that Hank survives the gunfight. Though he isn't going to get out of there alive so it doesn't really matter if he survives the little gun battle.[/sp]
People keep saying that [sp]Hank is definitely a dead man,[/sp] but I feel like [sp]Hank is right beside the car that Walt is in, it's quite possible Hank could get into Walt and take him as a hostage, using him as leverage for his escape. It's also worth noting that Walt doesn't want Hank to die, so there's a number of things to consider here. I feel like it's plausible for Hank to get out of that spot.[/sp]
[sp]As for Gomey though... I've been expecting Gomey to die for like the last 3 seasons. I'm surprised he's made it this far although I'm not sure why I feel that way[/sp]
Ok. I can't resist sharing my prediction. And feelings. If [sp]there's someone, who's definitely dead, it's Gomi. I feel that Hank gets away, possibly injured, but will die later that episode.[/sp]
Also, I never stopped rooting for Mr. White. Like someone mentioned, Walt is nor good or evil. Even the [sp]birth of Heisenberg[/sp] started as a mix-up of good intentions (family) and something bad (well.. dealing meth). Whatever had to be done, actually had to be done. It's all damage control. Despite the fact [sp]the damage is a direct consequence of Walt's (or Heisenbergs?) cockiness and lust. In the end, it's all about the survival. His own, but the survival of his family as well. And that's what matters most, even if it means killing someone in order to ensure it.[/sp]
And I actually can't stand Jesse, because he just doesn't think. He's unreliable and he complicates things, not someone you can give creative freedom when you're in this kind of business.
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And no I don't know why they're GIFs
[sp]If that gunfight were at all realistic Hank & Gomez would be swiss cheese. The Nazis started firing before they even started to move for the car. It didn't really detract from it at all but if I just saw a bunch of guys pile out of cars with assault rifles and automatic shotguns, I wouldn't just be standing there[/sp]
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[B]HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT![/B]
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Anyone else enjoying Being Bad? yes that's what I meant, it's not a typo, Brazzers has made it's own spin-off on Breaking Bad and it's vastly superior, the writing for each episode just gets better and better, I thought the pilot was on the same level as the show but the later episodes have proved that they know how to go above and beyond. Really interesting scenarios present here, like:
[sp]In episode 3 Jesse and Hector Salamanca team up and try to take Mr. Whitecock out of the business[/sp] Can't believe Vince never thought of that, honestly I would recommend it, it's a solid 9/10 so far.
Team up? Do you mean DP?
[editline]12th September 2013[/editline]
Ding ding ding ding ding
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;42151561]I don't understand why people always see Walt as the bad guy. Saving Jesse by [sp]driving over those two thugs of Gus[/sp] is what basically ruined everything. After that, it was Jesse who [sp]switched sides and there was no way to get him back at Walt's side, other than to poison Brock and blame Gus[/sp].
Jesse is the bad guy. He isn't necessarily evil, especially compared to Walt's actions, but he is far from being "good". Manipulation my ass. He is and has always been nothing but trouble.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Yeah, Jesse may have gotten himself into that situation, but you have to remember his intentions. Those two guys used a child to murder one of Jesse's best friends, then killed the child when he was no longer useful. Calling Jesse "the bad guy" for doing what he did is insane. Jesse doesn't manipulate everyone he talks to like Walter does. Jesse may act impulsively, but honestly I say it's better to have a caring heart than a logical mind that ignores injustice.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Kindlinho;42159094]Ok. I can't resist sharing my prediction. And feelings. If [sp]there's someone, who's definitely dead, it's Gomi. I feel that Hank gets away, possibly injured, but will die later that episode.[/sp]
Also, I never stopped rooting for Mr. White. Like someone mentioned, Walt is nor good or evil. Even the [sp]birth of Heisenberg[/sp] started as a mix-up of good intentions (family) and something bad (well.. dealing meth). Whatever had to be done, actually had to be done. It's all damage control. Despite the fact [sp]the damage is a direct consequence of Walt's (or Heisenbergs?) cockiness and lust. In the end, it's all about the survival. His own, but the survival of his family as well. And that's what matters most, even if it means killing someone in order to ensure it.[/sp]
And I actually can't stand Jesse, because he just doesn't think. He's unreliable and he complicates things, not someone you can give creative freedom when you're in this kind of business.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly how I feel about both of them.
[editline]11th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=ZF911;42160730][sp]Yeah, Jesse may have gotten himself into that situation, but you have to remember his intentions. Those two guys used a child to murder one of Jesse's best friends, then killed the child when he was no longer useful. Calling Jesse "the bad guy" for doing what he did is insane. Jesse doesn't manipulate everyone he talks to like Walter does. Jesse may act impulsively, but honestly I say it's better to have a caring heart than a logical mind that ignores injustice.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Gale was just.
[QUOTE=A big fat ass;42160694]Team up? Do you mean DP?
[editline]12th September 2013[/editline]
Ding ding ding ding ding[/QUOTE]
No they legit team up, I'll describe episode 3 so far though [sp] So basically Mr. Whitecock is very unhappy, his empire is in shambles and he doesn't know what to do with himself any more as his blue boner pills he has been making just make him want to fuck continuously but girls can't handle it, that's when Melina comes in and tells him to fuck her, but Mr. Whitecock doesn't want to as he believes he would just wear out her pussy like all the rest but Melina instead uses her ass and gets Mr. Whitecock to cum.[/sp]
[sp]After that, Jesse and Hector roll up into Mr. Whitecocks apartment and tie him up and Jesse says he has teamed up with Hector to take over his empire and throw Mr.Whitecock out[/sp]
Honestly it's so fucken intense, way more then Breaking Bads last episode, and that's all from the trailer not even the full episode, god damn I hope the full release gives more details or episode 4 but shit it's a nail bitter, I don't know how Mr. Whitecock is going to get out of this one, maybe the Nazis will come by?
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;42154540]Learn your southern colloquialisms.[/QUOTE]
fyi
[QUOTE](colloquial, southern US) to go wrong, of people or events, including to turn toward a life of crime or immoral activity[/QUOTE]
you're wrong
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;42160756]This is exactly how I feel about both of them.
[editline]11th September 2013[/editline]
Gale was just.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Killing Gale was 100% Walt's idea. Jesse did carry it out, but only when a gun was at Walt's head and it was too late for any other solution. Jesse did suggest going to the cops, and he was completely serious about it. Honestly Walt should have gone to the cops before resorting to killing an innocent person, but at the same time I don't really hate him for that decision. What I am saying though, the blame for that event lies on Walt and not Jesse.[/sp]
[QUOTE=ZF911;42160889][sp]Killing Gale was 100% Walt's idea. Jesse did carry it out, but only when a gun was at Walt's head and it was too late for any other solution. Jesse did suggest going to the cops, and he was completely serious about it. Honestly Walt should have gone to the cops before resorting to killing an innocent person, but at the same time I don't really hate him for that decision. What I am saying though, the blame for that event lies on Walt and not Jesse.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Walt saved his life because Jesse couldn't keep the peace. Walt only had a gun to his head because of Jesse.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;42160974]Walt saved his life because Jesse couldn't keep the peace. Walt only had a gun to his head because of Jesse.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Walt also could have gone to the cops when he had the chance. If you can say Jesse is responsible for everything bad that happened in seasons 4 and 5, you can also say Walt's decision to not call the cops and kill Gale makes him just as responsible. Or you can trace it back to Walt getting greedy for territory, causing Combo to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Or go even further to the pilot when Walt blackmailed Jesse into teaming up with him.[/sp]
[editline]12th September 2013[/editline]
Placing blame on a single action for an entire series of events is pointless. Every decision leads to a decision someone else has to make and so forth. Jesse does something impulsively, but the choices of others led him there. Walt may be in a bad spot because of a decision, but ultimately he can choose how to deal with it himself.
[QUOTE=koppel;42154753]i understand breaking bad as it shows that every human being has a darker side, only the trigger for it must be activated[/QUOTE]
Walt was susceptible to breaking bad because of how he repressed his feelings of worthlessness from the whole Grey Matter thing, and then became an underachieving high school teacher, and let his brother insult his masculinity ("haha Walt can't handle a gun"). In Jungian terms, Walt had a very dense Shadow. He very suddenly unleashed his Shadow without having properly integrated it. Basically I agree that everyone has a Shadow, but not everyone's Shadow is susceptible to creating a Heisenberg.
[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;42160270][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/6tLqRCo.gif[/IMG]
[B]HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT![/B]
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spoiler: the vase, glass of water and lightbulb survive
[QUOTE=FreakySoup;42157339][sp]tbh walt would've probably cut jesse off around the time he started working for gus, especially considering he and jesse weren't on exactly good terms after hank beat the shit out of jesse, but because jesse went on that tirade about how if he ever got caught cooking meth on his own he'd rat on walt to avoid jail time, walt had to keep jesse on a short leash. the only way he could do that was if he brought jesse in to keep cooking with him, which is, unfortunately for walt, the root of all his problems mid-season 3 onwards[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]but walt offered for jesse to cook with him again before that speech, didn't he?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Y'all.;42161787][sp]but walt offered for jesse to cook with him again before that speech, didn't he?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]If you're talking about the same scene with Jesse's "I want nothing to do with you" speech, that happened after Jesse threatened him with giving up Heisenberg.[/sp]
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