[QUOTE=Rusty100;42292817]you have a pretty warped perspective of the show if you want that[/QUOTE]
After the Nazis and Todd, Walt most deserves to die
For all the people who didn't deserve it at all it totally makes sense to want it for him
[video=youtube;IrQTLaaEXnc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrQTLaaEXnc&feature=c4-overview&list=UU12J1m-HWr6jSrIB49PTCKw[/video]
Dunno if late
"I'm in the empire business"
The "money for family" thing went out the window a while ago, even if he still hides behind it. Plus I don't care how good his intentions are, he's made mistake after mistake after mistake and ending up destroying what he wanted to "protect". If I start going around collecting blood money for charity it's still blood money.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;42293046]After the Nazis and Todd, Walt most deserves to die
For all the people who didn't deserve it at all it totally makes sense to want it for him[/QUOTE]
The only time I've ever wanted Walt dead was the first time I watched Ozymandias. Other than that, nah.
[QUOTE=diobono;42293100][video=youtube;IrQTLaaEXnc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrQTLaaEXnc&feature=c4-overview&list=UU12J1m-HWr6jSrIB49PTCKw[/video]
Dunno if late[/QUOTE]
it's really amazing how the silly dad from malcolm in the middle can play a character like walter white so well. i think if you went back in time and showed a malcolm in the middle fan the more recent episodes of breaking bad and told them "that's hal's actor" they'd be speechless.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;42292817]you have a pretty warped perspective of the show if you want that[/QUOTE]
guys acting like an angry child at his best. all that "i'm doing it for my family" is bullshit and have been from the start.
[editline]24th September 2013[/editline]
okay, maybe not a painful death, but he's an asshole.
the scene where [sp]walt shoots runs over the dealer and shoots the other one and says "run"[/sp] had me thinking "that's so hal"
[editline]24th September 2013[/editline]
[sp]the scene in i see you (s3) with walt jr explaining his book to walt is pretty interesting in comparison to the recent episodes
"Good guys never get ink like the bad guys do"[/sp]
[QUOTE=Ripvayne;42292569][sp]Me too, I think Walt may have reflected on much of what has happened during his isolation, so I wonder if he has had any change of heart in regards to Jesse. Maybe he doesn't blame him so much anymore. I don't know if Jesse would be forgiving towards Walt though. I don't see that happening, unless they reunite to take down the nazis.[/sp][/QUOTE]
I would argue about Walt's change. [sp]When he was in vacuum repairman's place he was plotting a revenge and still wanted to do it the first day when he was in New Hampshire. But his bloodthirst was silenced by returning cancer, and hopelessness in the isolation, and it returned when he heard about his meth still being produced. I doubt he spend all those months thinking about all the bad things that happened to him, if any he realized that when his son definitely didn't want to speak with his father (he basically turned himself in shortly after that) and after hearing what Gretchen has said. [/sp]
Don't forget that [sp]in regards Jesse, all this time he thought that he was killed by Nazis shortly after they have taken them. Hell, I'm sure he still thinks that and will be shocked to find out what happened to him. It may even anger Walt more.[/sp]
sorry to ask such a silly question, i am completely up to date but i can't for the life of me remember [sp]how walt came to possess this m60? and where is it now, it looked like only him and the barrel went up to new hampshire?[/sp]
we'll probably find out in the finale
[QUOTE=Autumn;42294389]sorry to ask such a silly question, i am completely up to date but i can't for the life of me remember [sp]how walt came to possess this m60? and where is it now, it looked like only him and the barrel went up to new hampshire?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]He got it when he returned to ABQ. In the opening scene of S5E1, while in the diner, the weapons dealer walks in, Walt goes to the bathroom with him, and they exchange money for the keys to the car with the m60 in it. That is the car we see Walt pull up to his house in to get the ricin from behind the outlet cover[/sp]
It was from a flash forward.
[QUOTE=Rammaster;42290651]I'm gonna try and watch every episode before the finale.[/QUOTE]
Nevermind, this is too hard. I'm just gonna wait until I get the complete series and just watch it all in my underwear and Los Pollos Hermanos apron on.
[QUOTE=Joz;42294079]I would argue about Walt's change. [sp]When he was in vacuum repairman's place he was plotting a revenge and still wanted to do it the first day when he was in New Hampshire. But his bloodthirst was silenced by returning cancer, and hopelessness in the isolation, and it returned when he heard about his meth still being produced. I doubt he spend all those months thinking about all the bad things that happened to him, if any he realized that when his son definitely didn't want to speak with his father (he basically turned himself in shortly after that) and after hearing what Gretchen has said. [/sp]
Don't forget that [sp]in regards Jesse, all this time he thought that he was killed by Nazis shortly after they have taken them. Hell, I'm sure he still thinks that and will be shocked to find out what happened to him. It may even anger Walt more.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I didn't think about the fact that Walt found out that they were still making his product. Could he have figured out that Jesse is alive from that and his goal is to save him?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Forss;42295089][sp]I didn't think about the fact that Walt found out that they were still making his product. Could he have figured out that Jesse is alive from that and his goal is to save him?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Walt probably doesn't give two shits whether or not Jesse's still alive.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Forss;42295089][sp]I didn't think about the fact that Walt found out that they were still making his product. Could he have figured out that Jesse is alive from that and his goal is to save him?[/sp][/QUOTE]
It would be a very huge leap. [sp]All this time Walt thought (if he ever give it any thought) that Jesse is dead, and had no reason to think otherwise. When Walt hears about his blue meth circulating around, his first thought was probably that Todd & Nazis are still cooking HIS special product, despite having his 80 million dollars.[/sp]
On his way to ABQ [sp]he may think about Jesse and the possibility that he is alive, but I think creators should show us this realization explicitly. [/sp]
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;42293133]"I'm in the empire business"
The "money for family" thing went out the window a while ago, even if he still hides behind it. Plus I don't care how good his intentions are, he's made mistake after mistake after mistake and ending up destroying what he wanted to "protect". If I start going around collecting blood money for charity it's still blood money.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I mean, [i]maybe[/i] in the first four seasons he was legitimately "stuck in the game" and had to keep doing bad things to survive.
[sp]But he had an incredibly clear "out" in episode 506, "Buyout", and he didn't take it because he was still throwing a tantrum about Gray Matter. In season 2 he said that $737,000 was all he needed for his family. Buyout would've given him five MILLION.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Dissolution;42290781]That's around 50 hours of Breaking Bad, good luck :)[/QUOTE]
It's possible.
When I finally decided to start watching about a month and a half ago I finished everything including the first episode of 5B in 5 days (and nights :D)
Hey guys, remember this?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AkVPNos7V0[/media]
Back when everything was noticeably simpler.
But that guy's dead already
He just doesn't know it yet
I love that song for some reason.
So [sp] What kinda shape will Jesse be in if we see him next episode? Any bets on missing body parts?
Few months in Naziland's gotta do something to a dude[/sp]
[QUOTE=Xieneus;42296075]I love that song for some reason.[/QUOTE]
The reason is that it's great
I don't get why some people think Walt is completely blameless and he's just doing everything he does for his family. We're quite clearly supposed to think he's done some pretty repugnant things. [sp]Like telling Jesse he watched Jane die? That action is completely fucking unforgivable (unless you're counting Hank's death, if you think that justifies telling someone you think of as family who is about to be executed for all you know, that you watched the woman he loves asphyxiate, you're seriously grasping at straws).
Let's not forget that even is motive his pretty fucking shitty. Who [I]gives a shit[/I] about having money when your father is responsible for so much fucking tragedy? You have terrible values if you think money is that important which typically contributes to the bad moral character of a person.[/sp]
Don't get me wrong, I love Walt. I love to hate him and I hate to love him which is, I think, exactly what they're trying to do with the series. You're supposed to be rooting for him while a part of you wants him to die painfully (or vice versa depending on your outlook).
If you seriously think Walt is "just trying to do what he thought was best for his family" [I]you're[/I] watching breaking bad wrong. He has some pretty severe character flaws. It feels like some bad fans are experiencing stockholm syndrome, sometimes.
breaking bad is a show in which people do good and bad things and there are no good or bad people in it
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apart from huell
I thought you guys would like this.
[t]http://31.media.tumblr.com/1f96c3affd8b7b14c503d0fad33ae191/tumblr_mtl4h8Okcj1qay9wgo1_r1_1280.jpg[/t]
from [url]http://greatshowdowns.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Eltro102;42296473]breaking bad is a show in which people do good and bad things and there are no good or bad people in it
[editline]24th September 2013[/editline]
apart from huell[/QUOTE]
Totally disagree. If you can't call someone who's a nazi, who chains someone up in a pit, forces them to cook meth, murders their old lover and threatens to murder her orphan child, what the fuck is the point in morality? I agree that probably even someone like Jack has acted once or twice in such a way that wasn't completely reproachable but that doesn't suddenly mean they're immune from any moral condemnation.
When I was studying philosophy I always hated it when people assumed the fact that there's so many sides to actions that makes moral condemnation more difficult suggests that [I]it cannot possibly be done ever.[/I]
The depth of Walt's character is designed to engage with you in such a way that you debate whether or not he's a bad person or not. If you just shrug it off and say he's a bit of both it feels to me like you're not engaging with the debate enough.
Not really condemning anyone for watching BB in a certain way, I just don't agree when people say "IT'S LIKE THIS: nobody's good or bad" which is extremely reductive and lazy.
[sp]Just realized that Badger and Skinny Pete have no idea where Jesse went
To them, their best friend just...disappeared :( [/sp]
*mild spoilers* [url]http://vocaroo.com/i/s0YOPQKjg5kJ[/url]
[sp] the way bryan puts it, heavily implies that gretchen and elliot appearence is not just gonna serve as a motivator to walt, there's more to it [/sp]
Todd is really creepy imo
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