Jane was a manipulative bitch and I was glad when she died. Andrea was alright but they never really made me care about her so I was pretty unphased by her death.
good article by anna gunn that should illuminate how much of a shitty person you are if you hate or hated skyler
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/opinion/i-have-a-character-issue.html?_r=0[/url]
I can see that article receiving a lot of "god can't she just shut the fuck up she's so annoying i hate her" remarks for the exact same reasons people hated Skyler in the show. GJ people.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;42392211]good article by anna gunn that should illuminate how much of a shitty person you are if you hate or hated skyler
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/opinion/i-have-a-character-issue.html?_r=0[/url][/QUOTE]
I hated her at first, when it seemed Walt was still doing what he was doing for the sake of the family, but especially after the finale, I don't hate her at all, I feel bad for her and I completely understand her point of view earlier on.
[editline]3rd October 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=tom1029;42391992]Jane was a manipulative bitch and I was glad when she died. Andrea was alright but they never really made me care about her so I was pretty unphased by her death.[/QUOTE]
But Jesse cares about her a great deal and most of us care about Jesse, so it was how Jesse felt that should phase you.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;42392211]good article by anna gunn that should illuminate how much of a shitty person you are if you hate or hated skyler
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/opinion/i-have-a-character-issue.html?_r=0[/url][/QUOTE]
its possibly to hate skyler without being one of those idiot extremists that hate her just because she gets in walts way
i dont dislike what she does, i dislike her character. compared to the other main characters, hers is terrible.
[QUOTE=Loofiloo;42389446]I think my favorite idea for a spinoff series would be
[sp]Badger and Skinny Pete catch wind of the $69 million still hidden somewhere, then embark on an adventure searching for The Lost Pirate Treasure of Captain Heisenberg[/sp][/QUOTE]
I'm not joking when I say that would be a brilliant idea
[QUOTE=Rusty100;42392211]good article by anna gunn that should illuminate how much of a shitty person you are if you hate or hated skyler
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/opinion/i-have-a-character-issue.html?_r=0[/url][/QUOTE]
I only hated Skyler in Season Three, but I didn't liked her until Season 5B. After that she become one of my favourites.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;42392459]I hated her at first, when it seemed Walt was still doing what he was doing for the sake of the family, but especially after the finale, I don't hate her at all, I feel bad for her and I completely understand her point of view earlier on.
[/QUOTE]
[sp]i think it's because we weren't 100% sure how things would turn out. skyler thought the family would be torn apart but we couldn't know if that'd happen or not. it was possible (although highly unlikely) that the family would stay fine albeit slightly damaged. the finale (and all of s5b) shows us that walt's actions and the actions of others completely destroyed their family. hank dies, jr hates his father and skyler is left to deal with the aftermath of walt's empire. now that i think about it, the father-son scene with walt and jr (at the hotel i think) is painful to think about considering how things turn out[/sp]
[editline]3rd October 2013[/editline]
[sp]didn't marie get walt jr on tv for savewalterwhite.com? the public could see how it goes from a loving family with a suffering father to the heisenberg mess that apparently became national/global news[/sp]
[QUOTE=Rusty100;42392211]good article by anna gunn that should illuminate how much of a shitty person you are if you hate or hated skyler
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/opinion/i-have-a-character-issue.html?_r=0[/url][/QUOTE]
Sure is illuminating when all she did was turn this into yet another fucking inherently gender-related problem for virtually no reason at all, not even considering the possibility of people simply not being too fond of folks (female or male) who are too emotional or erratic by nature.
It's nice to know that she sleeps better at night by wrongfully rationalizing shit like this but if she actually thinks people dislike her character because "lel women are so emotional and dumb!" she's an idiot.
I dont even understand how you can actually be objectively wrong when disliking characters in a fictional fucking drama. I dont understand why someone who rooted for Walt and despised Skyler is apparently some sort of sexist dumb pig who didn't get the plot.
[QUOTE=Melnek;42393721]Sure is illuminating when all she did was turn this into yet another fucking inherently gender-related problem for virtually no reason at all, not even considering the possibility of people simply not being too fond of folks (female or male) who are too emotional or erratic by nature.
It's nice to know that she sleeps better at night by wrongfully rationalizing shit like this but if she actually thinks people dislike her character because "lel women are so emotional and dumb!" she's an idiot.
I dont even understand how you can actually be objectively wrong when disliking characters in a fictional fucking drama. I dont understand why someone who rooted for Walt and despised Skyler is apparently some sort of sexist dumb pig who didn't get the plot.[/QUOTE]
maybe this is only directed at people who dislike skyler for unjustified and mysognistic reasons, it'd obviously be silly to just claim that everybody who dislikes skyler has the same reasoning
[editline]3rd October 2013[/editline]
you shouldn't assume that she meant "100% of people who hate skyler white think this way" just because it wasn't specified, that should go without saying
[QUOTE=Rusty100;42392211]good article by anna gunn that should illuminate how much of a shitty person you are if you hate or hated skyler
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/opinion/i-have-a-character-issue.html?_r=0[/url][/QUOTE]
So if you don't like an unlikable female character you are automatically misogynistic?
"Could it be that they can’t stand a woman who won’t suffer silently or “stand by her man”? That they despise her because she won’t back down or give up? Or because she is, in fact, Walter’s equal?"
That's when I stopped reading. I disliked Skyler because of stuff like sleeping with Ted and how she reacted to stuff. I disliked Marie too, but liked Lydia and Jane much more who are both "strong women".
[QUOTE=Robber;42393928]So if you don't like an unlikable female character you are automatically misogynistic?
"Could it be that they can’t stand a woman who won’t suffer silently or “stand by her man”? That they despise her because she won’t back down or give up? Or because she is, in fact, Walter’s equal?"
That's when I stopped reading. I disliked Skyler because of stuff like sleeping with Ted and how she reacted to stuff. I disliked Marie too, but liked Lydia and Jane much more who are both "strong women".[/QUOTE]
why the hell do you guys think anna gunn is saying that you're literally not allowed to have a negative opinion about skyler? she's specifically addressing unjustified hate
On Skyler:
[sp]I disliked the way the character acted around early Season 2, being extremely vague on purpose as revenge on Walt and the whole Ted shebang. Most of the other things that cause people to say 'I hate Skyler' are justifiable though and towards the end of the series it's difficult to continue disliking a woman for being a mother.[/sp]
i love listening to the songs from the older seasons
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ownK4kKeTQ&list=RD02b3vRYfXJ7Rg[/media]
Can someone explain something to me from season 5?
[sp]I've just watched the episode where Jesse discovers and clocks that his weed was taken from his pocket by Huell and that it must have been Huell/Saul that took the ricin cigarette a little while back (and not just dropped it) and it was Walt who tried to harm Brock, not Gus. But how does he come to this conclusion when he knows it was the plant that was harming Brock, not ricin? Even Saul was admitting it but it was never ricin, it was the plant.[/sp]
[sp]walt still convinced jesse that gus had someone steal the ricin cigarette from him because that way jesse would think brock was poisoned by jesse misplacing it or otherwise loosing it[/sp]
[QUOTE=FDiz;42394622][sp]I've just watched the episode where Jesse discovers and clocks that his weed was taken from his pocket by Huell and that it must have been Huell/Saul that took the ricin cigarette a little while back (and not just dropped it) and it was Walt who tried to harm Brock, not Gus. But how does he come to this conclusion when he knows it was the plant that was harming Brock, not ricin? Even Saul was admitting it but it was never ricin, it was the plant.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]He realised Walt intentionally ordered it taken, instead of Gus stealing it/him losing it. It makes him realise it was all a ploy from Walt for him to join his side.[/sp]
Ah ok I get it, thanks. But [sp]I still find it so convenient he came to that conclusion, Jesse 'found' the ricin (the fake ricin) in that auto vacuum thing, so he just instantly knows that Walt made a fake one and put it in the vacuum? Wouldn't he be like, ah no it can't be Walt intentionally ordered Huell/Saul to take it because we found the ricin, it wasn't taken from my pocket[/sp]
So someone on reddit posted an interesting alternate ending theory.
[sp]A lot things that happened in the finale went almost too smoothly, even some deus ex machina. He happens to find the car keys in the visor, he sneaks into Gretchen and Elliot's house perfectly and when he's there he perfectly finds a way to get his family money. He got into Skyler's apartment without anyone noticing and gets closure with her. He poisons Lydia with the ricin, this is the first time the use of ricin wasn't a total failure. When he confronts the Nazis, everything goes pretty much perfectly. Jack even happens to survive and Walt is able to personally kill him. And Jesse even seems to forgive Walt after everything that Walt did to him. Walt walks through the lab one last time and dies with a smile on his face, undefeated by anyone.
It was all perfect and this ending was more happy than anything. While I(and others) were expecting an ending where everyone loses, we got a relatively good end for our two protagonists. No series of events has gone down so perfectly in Breaking Bad without severe consequences or repercussions.
So the theory is that the alternate(or real) ending will be that the events of the final episode were all a fantasy of Walter. He dreams it all up while in reality, he's dying of cancer in a cabin, Jesse is still a slave, his family is without money, and his wife is being persecuted.[/sp]
Any thoughts?
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the whole "then he wakes up" cop out is too cheap for something like breaking bad
[QUOTE=ZF911;42394921]So someone on reddit posted an interesting alternate ending theory.
[sp]A lot things that happened in the finale went almost too smoothly, even some deus ex machina. He happens to find the car keys in the visor, he sneaks into Gretchen and Elliot's house perfectly and when he's there he perfectly finds a way to get his family money. He got into Skyler's apartment without anyone noticing and gets closure with her. He poisons Lydia with the ricin, this is the first time the use of ricin wasn't a total failure. When he confronts the Nazis, everything goes pretty much perfectly. Jack even happens to survive and Walt is able to personally kill him. And Jesse even seems to forgive Walt after everything that Walt did to him. Walt walks through the lab one last time and dies with a smile on his face, undefeated by anyone.
It was all perfect and this ending was more happy than anything. While I(and others) were expecting an ending where everyone loses, we got a relatively good end for our two protagonists. No series of events has gone down so perfectly in Breaking Bad without severe consequences or repercussions.
So the theory is that the alternate(or real) ending will be that the events of the final episode were all a fantasy of Walter. He dreams it all up while in reality, he's dying of cancer in a cabin, Jesse is still a slave, his family is without money, and his wife is being persecuted.[/sp]
Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Cliche as fuck.
[sp]Fantasies and dreams[/sp] are so overused that its not even funny
[QUOTE=FDiz;42394830]Ah ok I get it, thanks. But [sp]I still find it so convenient he came to that conclusion, Jesse 'found' the ricin (the fake ricin) in that auto vacuum thing, so he just instantly knows that Walt made a fake one and put it in the vacuum? Wouldn't he be like, ah no it can't be Walt intentionally ordered Huell/Saul to take it because we found the ricin, it wasn't taken from my pocket[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Jesse found the real ricin at his house, but since he realized Huell took it and that he didn't actually lose it then it means that Walt had placed it in the roomba while they were searching for it.
It also means that Walt lied about Gus stealing the ricin to poison Brock (since Walt was the one who stole it), which leaves Walt as the only person who would have poisoned him.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Valdor;42395153][sp]Jesse found the real ricin at his house, but since he realized Huell took it and that he didn't actually lose it then it means that Walt had placed it in the roomba while they were searching for it.
It also means that Walt lied about Gus stealing the ricin to poison Brock (since Walt was the one who stole it), which leaves Walt as the only person who would have poisoned him.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]But it wasn't the real ricin, it was the one Walt made out of salt or something, then (off camera) he puts it in the roomba. As far as Jesse knows, they found it, but he somehow disregards that as the answer and conveniently jumps to the conclusion that it was fake ricin purely by discovering they Huell took his weed and looking at his cigarettes[/sp]
[url=http://www.avclub.com/articles/say-hola-to-the-characters-from-latin-americas-rem,103651/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default]Apparently they are making a Colombian Breaking Bad.[/url]
Man, I [I]reeaaally[/I] want that Bluray Collection. I want to rewatch the series but I also don't want to if it's possible that I might get it later this year.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;42395266][url=http://www.avclub.com/articles/say-hola-to-the-characters-from-latin-americas-rem,103651/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default]Apparently they are making a Colombian Breaking Bad.[/url][/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpg2MvVPV7Y[/media]
Vamos!
it's fun to think that the music being played is what the main character of the scene is singing in their head. lots of the songs seem like things walt would sing in his head.
I'd like to see the cartel characters in Metastatis being played by American actors, the Tuco equivalent could be some sort of Mafia boss, would be interesting
[url]http://www.businessinsider.com/breaking-bad-alternate-endings-2013-10[/url]
In the Insider Podcast for "Felina", they discussed a bunch of ideas they had for alternate endings. Some of them are pretty depressing.
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