I desperately hope they use the song Methamphetamine by Old Crow Medicine Show sometime this season. I would include the video but I'm still not sure how to media tag and such.
[QUOTE=MorbidlyObese;41843125]I desperately hope they use the song Methamphetamine by Old Crow Medicine Show sometime this season. I would include the video but I'm still not sure how to media tag and such.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4Bp-68W-2c[/media]
[url]http://i.imgur.com/vIGA03P.jpg[/url]
:(. Such a massive contrast. (s5b cold opening spoilers)
[url]http://i.imgur.com/vIGA03P.jpg[/url]
season 5 ep 9 spoilers
[QUOTE=Primigenes;41844593]So I've finally arrived at Season 5 and correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Walt always been a bit of a dick?[/QUOTE]
[sp]He could be greedy towards the beginning. But that was more because "I'm taking a huge risk by doing this, so it had better start paying off." That's what caused him to raise prices and expand territory. It wasn't pure maliciousness. Throughout the first four seasons, Walter genuinely cared about Jesse. In season 5 all he does is manipulate him. All of his "bad" actions throughout the first four seasons were justifiable. Killing Krazy 8, Jane, Gus, and whoever else. It was all to protect himself(physically, as in his life was in danger), his family, or Jesse.
His transformation from being a good man protecting his loved ones to a bad man protecting his ego and his empire can be pinpointed to the crawl space. That was where he truly lost it. When he poisoned Brock, I first defended him. He knew Brock wouldn't die, but in the end it still wasn't acceptable. It wasn't a direct means of protecting himself, it was a manipulation tactic. And then of course if you watch season 5, everything he does follows that same pattern of either being manipulative, or unnecessarily ruthless.[/sp]
[QUOTE=ZF911;41846464][sp]He could be greedy towards the beginning. But that was more because "I'm taking a huge risk by doing this, so it had better start paying off." That's what caused him to raise prices and expand territory. It wasn't pure maliciousness. Throughout the first four seasons, Walter genuinely cared about Jesse. In season 5 all he does is manipulate him. All of his "bad" actions throughout the first four seasons were justifiable. Killing Krazy 8, Jane, Gus, and whoever else. It was all to protect himself(physically, as in his life was in danger), his family, or Jesse.
His transformation from being a good man protecting his loved ones to a bad man protecting his ego and his empire can be pinpointed to the crawl space. That was where he truly lost it. When he poisoned Brock, I first defended him. He knew Brock wouldn't die, but in the end it still wasn't acceptable. It wasn't a direct means of protecting himself, it was a manipulation tactic. And then of course if you watch season 5, everything he does follows that same pattern of either being manipulative, or unnecessarily ruthless.[/sp][/QUOTE]
maliciousness?
malice dude, that's the word for that
[QUOTE=ZF911;41846464][sp]He could be greedy towards the beginning. But that was more because "I'm taking a huge risk by doing this, so it had better start paying off." That's what caused him to raise prices and expand territory. It wasn't pure maliciousness. Throughout the first four seasons, Walter genuinely cared about Jesse. In season 5 all he does is manipulate him. All of his "bad" actions throughout the first four seasons were justifiable. Killing Krazy 8, Jane, Gus, and whoever else. It was all to protect himself(physically, as in his life was in danger), his family, or Jesse.
His transformation from being a good man protecting his loved ones to a bad man protecting his ego and his empire can be pinpointed to the crawl space. That was where he truly lost it. When he poisoned Brock, I first defended him. He knew Brock wouldn't die, but in the end it still wasn't acceptable. It wasn't a direct means of protecting himself, it was a manipulation tactic. And then of course if you watch season 5, everything he does follows that same pattern of either being manipulative, or unnecessarily ruthless.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]poisoning brock was still defending himself, he would've died if he didn't. killing mike in a fit of rage and telling jesse that he was "fine", though, that shits inexcusable[/sp]
[QUOTE=Flyingman356;41846578]maliciousness?
malice dude, that's the word for that[/QUOTE]
The longer, the smarter. That's the rule.
maliciousnessity.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;41844593]So I've finally arrived at Season 5 and correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Walt always been a bit of a dick?[/QUOTE]
The Heisenberg personality was always bubbling beneath the façade of Walter White, the meth business just became the catalyst.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/eCOj7WT.png[/img]
I can't help but feel that this line predicts the evolution of Heisenberg. The initial beginnings of the Heisenberg personality, the decay of Walt's morals and individual personality and finally Season 5's transition into Heisenberg.
the first two seasons are absolutely packed with foreshadowing
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;41847967]The Heisenberg personality was always bubbling beneath the façade of Walter White, the meth business just became the catalyst.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/eCOj7WT.png[/img]
I can't help but feel that this line predicts the evolution of Heisenberg. The initial beginnings of the Heisenberg personality, the decay of Walt's morals and individual personality and finally Season 5's transition into Heisenberg.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure Cranston quoted that whole scene while describing White -> Heisenberg.
[QUOTE=Grizz;41848449]I'm sure Cranston quoted that whole scene while describing White -> Heisenberg.[/QUOTE]
Gotta link? I like hearing actors talk about their character.
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;41847967]I can't help but feel that this line predicts the evolution of Heisenberg. The initial beginnings of the Heisenberg personality, the decay of Walt's morals and individual personality and finally Season 5's transition into Heisenberg.[/QUOTE]
The show is full of symbols and metaphores, so I'm pretty sure you're right.
This show has to be the most intelligent show I've ever seen.
[QUOTE=Kindlinho;41850446]The show is full of symbols and metaphors, so I'm pretty sure you're right.[/QUOTE]
Looking back at Season 1 and there are so many little references.
I've watched all five seasons and I LOVE how [sp]in Ep 9 when Walt's acting all polite to the workers at the car wash, then suddenly Lydia comes in, he immediately changed his expression into seriousness yet still acting polite. Kind of how Gus does that whenever he's working.[/sp] I love that character development.
[QUOTE=doomevil;41851553]I've watched all five seasons and I LOVE how [sp]in Ep 9 when Walt's acting all polite to the workers at the car wash, then suddenly Lydia comes in, he immediately changed his expression into seriousness yet still acting polite. Kind of how Gus does that whenever he's working.[/sp] I love that character development.[/QUOTE]
I really loved the parallels being drawn in that scene, [sp]makes me wonder if Lydia's planning to kill Walter, kinda like a role reversal where Walt takes the place of Fring and Lydia takes the place of Walt[/sp]. So many possibilities.
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;41851671]I really loved the parallels being drawn in that scene, [sp]makes me wonder if Lydia's planning to kill Walter, kinda like a role reversal where Walt takes the place of Fring and Lydia takes the place of Walt[/sp]. So many possibilities.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Speaking of role reversals - I wonder if Walt will do something like that box cutter murder Gus commited. That would present his evil Heisenberg side even more[/sp]
Agh it's only thursday. I want it to be sunday already.
[QUOTE=Lance99;41851837][sp]Speaking of role reversals - I wonder if Walt will do something like that box cutter murder Gus commited. That would present his evil Heisenberg side even more[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]The only person I can see him offing is Todd, other characters at this point aren't as expendable as him.[/sp]
so who else thinks that the star trek episode is obvious foreshadowing?
that or obvious throwoff foreshadowing, amirite?
[QUOTE=Jellyman;41850716]This show has to be the most intelligent show I've ever seen.[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily the most intelligent ever, but definitely the most intelligent show that also has amazing pacing, action, emotions, etc. For example, some people argue that The Wire is more deeply intelligent, but the pacing also really sucks especially through Season 2.
Rewatched EP 1 and when he is in the car wash he has pretty much the exact sentences.
It's full circle now.
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;41852133][sp]The only person I can see him offing is Todd, other characters at this point aren't as expendable as him.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I'm pretty sure at this point just about anyone is expendable.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Y'all.;41846610][sp]poisoning brock was still defending himself, he would've died if he didn't. killing mike in a fit of rage and telling jesse that he was "fine", though, that shits inexcusable[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Well Mike was hardly innocent. He tried to kill Walt and Jesse with Victor's help at the end of Season 3 on Gus' orders, then he beat Walt senseless in that bar just to teach him a lesson in loyalty (when Walt was asking for his help to assassinate Gus, after the whole boxcutter incident), then he threatened to kill Walt with a gun after he found out that Gus had been successfully assassinated by him, and then there was that other time he threatened him with a gun in a fit of rage after Walt hid the methlamine. So I can understand where that spur of the moment anger came from on Walt's end when he did the deed.
As far as lying to Jesse about what happened goes, I don't know. Jesse was way too attached to Mike, way too attached when you consider the circumstances of their relationship. If Walt told him the truth about what happened, I'd imagine that Jesse would just get all emotional like he does and go completely ballistic. Maybe not. Either way, this hasn't happened. And that's really damn interesting since Jesse has apparently figured out that Walt was lying to him and that Mike isn't actually fine. He's just kind of shut down and gotten really depressed; maybe he'll explode in a fit of rage? I see him being a problem for Walt at some point though.
We'll just have to wait and see how things play out before making any calls.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Pops;41852701]so who else thinks that the star trek episode is obvious foreshadowing?
that or obvious throwoff foreshadowing, amirite?[/QUOTE]
Someone will get their guts sucked out violently and die
[QUOTE=Pops;41852701]so who else thinks that the star trek episode is obvious foreshadowing?
that or obvious throwoff foreshadowing, amirite?[/QUOTE]
Blueberries and yorking confirmed.
[QUOTE=Mateo!;41854421]Someone will get their guts sucked out violently and die[/QUOTE]
Walt JR's insides get sucked out by a pool filter like in the book Haunted
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