[QUOTE=CheeserCrice;36933583]can someone recommend me some (early romantic?) composers like mozart, i'm looking specifically for music like the first minute of this:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR8GFUTMP_E[/media]
I know very little about classical music but this makes me feel incredible.[/QUOTE]
Mozart is classical. The 1700s up till the early 1800s were considered classical, the early mid 1800s to the very early 1900s romantic.
If you like Mozart, check out Haydn and Gluck. These three composers are all very 'clean' for lack of a better descriptor. Beethoven's earlier to mid-life works are also very definitely classical, but they're more raw, which is something I love.
Here's an example of each composer, but definitely explore around.
Gluck ...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTZgMQ7TVes[/media]
Haydn ...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Jkktpp9QI[/media]
Beethoven ...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHvztnHOWEQ[/media]
The Eroica symphony, linked above, is Beethoven's 3rd. It's fantastic. Everyone knows his 5th and 9th symphonies, but sit down and actually listen to them. They're popular for very good reasons. In fact, listen to all of his symphonies, they're great. I also love his piano sonatas, although that's to be expected as a pianist. Here are two of my favorites.
Sonata No. 8 'Pathetique' ... (If you're not much for slow music, wait it out till the 1:35 mark)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL0u9QXNvEg[/media]
Sonata No. 53 'Waldstein' ...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ5QKjmkinU[/media]
If you're not into these so much, check out Haydn's piano sonatas. Here's my favorite, Sonata No. 53 as well, coincidentally.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGp5R8OhwaI[/media]
Off that topic, I've been listening to Brahms' Piano Quartet in G Minor a lot recently. Brahms is probably my favorite composer, everything he wrote is interesting.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHqT-e75GOQ[/media]
[QUOTE=Schmoe222;36937185]Mozart is classical. The 1700s up till the early 1800s were considered classical, the early mid 1800s to the very early 1900s romantic.
[/QUOTE]
yeah i realise my pretty dumb mistake with the romantic classical thing, couldn't remember which he was. thanks a bunch thats a great wealth of music/musicians for me to check out. :)
can people recommend me albums like this? really talented players playing a variety of great composers.
[img]http://www.highfidelity.net/catalog/images/dg138672.jpg[/img]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqSulR9Fymg[/media]
best version on youtube imo
[QUOTE=vagrant;37042102]can people recommend me albums like this? really talented players playing a variety of great composers.
[img]http://www.highfidelity.net/catalog/images/dg138672.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I can't recommend any specific album but were I you I'd check out Vladimir Ashkenazy, Glenn Gould, Marc-Andre Hamelin, And Claudio Arrau.
i love glenn gould, investigating the others now, thanks!
this thread has an upsetting lack of rachmaninov and prokofiev.
(also, i play piano so a lot of these are piano works i've played myself, forgive the bias)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAsvRHXR_DE[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmq1cpcglQ[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW630zFA93Y[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97vYYcjDh3s[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbSCTdqvi1Y[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC7LUzZMEsk[/media]
I feel incredibly old for saying this, but I just enjoyed [url=http://digital.films.com/play/8EVSRW]this documentary[/url] on the history of musical notation.
So far I've listened mostly to chamber music (string quartets especially) but I want to get into orchestral works like symphonies and concertos. Any recommendations to start with?
In return, here are some of my favorite pieces for those in the opposite situation. I used the best sounding recordings I could find on youtube, with the occasional added bonus of being able to watch the players squirm.
[B]Schubert[/B]
[U]String Quintet in C[/U]
[video=youtube;ngcjXOU2Rt0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngcjXOU2Rt0&feature=related[/video]
The whole quintet is a masterwork, but the theme of the last movement is like a drug.
[U]Quartet in D Minor "Death and the Maiden"[/U]
His best known quartet, and for good reason. Here's the second movement played by the Takacs Quartet (I am used to the mosaiques quartet but it's not on youtube)
[video=youtube;azGjSn52KRo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azGjSn52KRo[/video]
The whole piece is great, but I particularly like the bits starting at 3.40 and 5.39.
[B]Czech composers.[/B]
[U]Dvorak[/U]
The obvious one is Dvorak, and his 12th "American" string quartet. If you don't know is yet here is a piece. (Though annoyingly it gets cut off.)
[video=youtube;qbTSHu4k0FM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbTSHu4k0FM[/video]
His 13th is great as well, though less well known.
[video=youtube;xiA9L2SAlGI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiA9L2SAlGI[/video]
Theres a great bit starting at 4.23 .
[U]Smetana[/U]
[video=youtube;nXFS_nO0W7M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXFS_nO0W7M&feature=related[/video]
Smetana's first string quartet is autobiographical, though you need some program notes to see that. Highlights of the first movement is the beautiful viola and the sweeping emotional eruption that starts at 2.34 .
[U]Janacek[/U]
[video=youtube;Z81FjYsizec]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z81FjYsizec[/video]
Janacek's first string quartet "Kreutzer Sonata", inspired by the Tolstoy novella of the same name, is about a man who kills his wife in a fit of rage and jealousy when he suspects she has been having an affair with a violinist she performs with. The agressive repetition of melodies and occasional warbled mash of the strings portray this quite effectively.
[B]Shostakovich[/B]
Again there is an obvious one, his eighth quartet. Though you may have only heard the second movement. The third is a bit calmer but just as good. (When it comes to the eighth quartet as a whole I prefer the recording by the Fitzwilliam quartet, but I couldn't find it on youtube.)
[video=youtube;TtNR1UETzQU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtNR1UETzQU[/video]
The second movement of the eighth contains a melody from jewish folkmusic, which Shostakovich had used earlier in his second piano trio.
[video=youtube;ZRltNxBvMDg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRltNxBvMDg[/video]
Jewish folkmusic appealed to Shostakovich because "the distinguishing feature of Jewish music is the ability to build a jolly melody on sad intonations. Why does a man strike up a jolly song? Because he feels sad at heart." Another work that uses said melodies is his fourth string quartet.
[video=youtube;AsxgLKLvALA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsxgLKLvALA[/video]
This influence is especially noticable in the fourth movement, with a heartbreaking melody starting at 0.45.
[video=youtube;oc57wAtWBG8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc57wAtWBG8&feature=relmfu[/video]
If I had to pick a favorite among Shostakovich's quartets it would probably be the tenth. I especially like the agressive second movement. (It's slightly less easy on the ears than my other suggestions if you're not familiar with it though)
[video=youtube;wWej-8ch6Jc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWej-8ch6Jc[/video]
That's all I've got for now. I sure hope someone reads this, the thread isn't exactly full of life at the moment.
Also bump.
want to get into symphonies?
beethoven, all 9.
/thread
[QUOTE=Pops;37616460]want to get into symphonies?
beethoven, all 9.
/thread[/QUOTE]
seconded, but it's tough to find a real definitive one.
Rene Lebowitz's conducted ones are what I have myself.
How does everyone feel about some Bach? I've been learning a Bach piece, and now I'm just thinking Bach Bach Bach
Doing the solo starting at 4:35 for the opening of my upcoming recital and as one of my fall church solos
[video=youtube;oiDwWmtrAeI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiDwWmtrAeI[/video]
[video=youtube;QLY66Kd_cWE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLY66Kd_cWE[/video]
[video=youtube;mZghZnqG9sk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZghZnqG9sk[/video]
[video=youtube;FAD5EGaNSQ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAD5EGaNSQ8[/video]
possibly learning a duet from this with a friend, #3 or #6
[video=youtube;3sj-NKqR0tw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sj-NKqR0tw[/video]
To the guy asking for orchestral music to get into:
Mahler symphonies (my personal favorites)
Tchaikovsky symphonies and concertos
Brahms symphonies and concertos
And of course Beethoven symphonies.
[QUOTE=The Maestro;37637237]To the guy asking for orchestral music to get into:
Mahler symphonies (my personal favorites)
Tchaikovsky symphonies and concertos
Brahms symphonies and concertos
And of course Beethoven symphonies.[/QUOTE]
And you cannot forget Mozart symphonies, either. I'd recommend the last 10 (31-41). If you want a high-quality FLAC recording of these conducted by K. Bohm (my favourite Mozart conductor), just PM me.
Loving Chopin's 17th Mazurka (No. 4):
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idbaPu1gDPg[/media]
Started learning it on piano, shall I post the results?
[QUOTE=vampiresrock;37768900]
Started learning it on piano, shall I post the results?[/QUOTE]
by all means go ahead.
I'm struggling to find modern classical composers. It's a tough game.
[editline]23rd September 2012[/editline]
WAIT JUST A SECOND:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz37PxMp8GQ[/media]
:O
[editline]23rd September 2012[/editline]
now listening to:
[img]http://www.synthema.ru/uploads/posts/2012-02/1330443564_nils-frahm-felt-2011.jpg[/img]
and then will hear
will listen to this next:
[IMG]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o202/akayz_people/o99955_zps95f8ae3d.jpg[/IMG][img]http://www.dustinohalloran.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/41BOkXdkqwL.jpg[/img]
why wasn't it this easy to find modern classical things before? :)
Amazing.
make that song entirely in an orchestra and then i'd say it's modern classical.
[QUOTE=Pops;37774982]make that song entirely in an orchestra and then i'd say it's modern classical.[/QUOTE]
i used to think like that too, but classical is more than orchestral music.
[img]http://www.wdr3.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Sendungen/TonArt/2012/Beitragsbilder/3.9.vivaldiCD.jpg[/img]
latest Max Ricther album and I didn't know about it...
Anyone a fan of Faure? His nocturnes are full of great stuff that breaks out of the time period a bit but in general I feel like he has perfect control over harmony and line.
I was pleasantly surprised to find the last movement of his Requiem in 28 Days Later, which for some reason completely went over my head the first time even though I knew the piece. It's quite simple and deliberate, but with a few listens you can tell that it's really well thought out.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCNq5kCGD4Y&feature=related[/media]
This is pretty interesting, an arrangement of one of Strauss' waltzes by Webern. The same Webern that was known for his inventive 12-tone writing.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CiuBlOu_4A[/media]
Ah yes....[i]that[/i] :v:
He, Schoenberg, and Berg all made arrangements of "schmaltzy" pieces to raise money for their new music organization. Can't remember but I think sometime around New Years...
[QUOTE=The Maestro;37864777]Ah yes....[i]that[/i] :v:
He, Schoenberg, and Berg all made arrangements of "schmaltzy" pieces to raise money for their new music organization. Can't remember but I think sometime around New Years...[/QUOTE]
Interesting, I didn't know that! Though after some research it seems the Strauss re-imaginings were premiered around May 1921.
The arrangements and orchestrations of past pieces by the composers of the Second Viennese School are interesting, if for nothing else, for allowing you to understand their instrumentation style separate from their compositions. My favorite would be Schoenberg's orchestration of Brahms' Piano Quartet No. 1 in G Minor.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHNVhn_utmg[/media]
That being said, I think the original work is more raw and prefer it over Schoenberg's realization of it.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vJpRu6-a6Y[/media]
All of Brahms' piano quartets are amazing. Difficult to play, though. Got to page turn for a performance of the third quartet today, best seat in the house. :v:
Good on you! Never page turned myself, too nerve wracking.
I'm also inclined to agree on arrangements - The original is much better than Schoenberg's re-working. I can say, though, that I prefer Schoenberg's re-orchestrating (augmenting, rather) of his own [i]Verklarte Nact[/i] to the original.
have 49GB of mozart and have no clue where to properly start. :(
listening to Concerto 21, really good stuff.
Here is a sample of my favorite classical music YouTube videos:
[video=youtube;zFRreJxXDFw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFRreJxXDFw[/video]
[video=youtube;MSlcx0Bl1Cg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSlcx0Bl1Cg[/video]
[video=youtube;tzEqM2HE7Zg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzEqM2HE7Zg[/video]
[video=youtube;z_w5Mholo4M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_w5Mholo4M[/video]
[video=youtube;F_NaeOHV_T8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_NaeOHV_T8[/video]
Bitches can't even begin to handle the Poulenc:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfEsw38Ru24[/media]
[QUOTE=vampiresrock;40042105]Bitches can't even begin to handle the Poulenc:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfEsw38Ru24[/media][/QUOTE]
bitch ass bitch, i'm getting this album.
We can't let the classical music thread die! Quick, bring in the Penderecki!
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HilGthRhwP8[/media]
EDIT: Fuck that shit Stravinsky has stolen my heart (once again)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__DH8RVpSa8[/media]
damn we're still on the same page from when i last posted in here
can't go wrong with brahms
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X9LvC9WkkQ[/media]
also, ballet music is secretly boss
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmq1cpcglQ[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CShopT9QUzw[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-lS89SDtZI[/url]
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