• Classical music discussion
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[video=youtube;Y_oxB-pQahA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_oxB-pQahA[/video] Found some new amazing Impressionists. Jongen has an output that's hard to fault. Two pieces here remind me lots of Ravel's Gaspard or Decaux's Clairs de Lune. [video=youtube;UqLdITP6HO0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqLdITP6HO0[/video] Koechlin is probably one my new top 10 composers. Nothing comes close to his ambient style which was way ahead of its time. You can totally just tune out to this stuff. Kinda like Jean Catoire but less pretentious and shit. [video=youtube;hty0VVYQSqo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hty0VVYQSqo[/video] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFPjFjUonX8&t=27m37s]Also the Rite is still awesome[/url]. The more you listen the more you get out of it.
[video=youtube;KrrdhR6tGB8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrrdhR6tGB8[/video] [video=youtube;y9_QXpwODXM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9_QXpwODXM[/video] [video=youtube;KNTxhXTrDl0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNTxhXTrDl0[/video] [video=youtube;hq985ViYVU0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq985ViYVU0[/video] Started my own channel to upload rare stuff that you can't find good videos of (or isn't on youtube at all).
Time for a bump I think. Just finished playing through Liszt Sonata for the first time, pretty sure I'm dead. What are you guys working on?
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;49921996]Time for a bump I think. Just finished playing through Liszt Sonata for the first time, pretty sure I'm dead. What are you guys working on?[/QUOTE] So jealous of you man. I wish I could play to that standard, though I get far too lazy with scales and such. Super tiring though to play that colossal piece through haha. Are you studying music? Performing? Spend most my time sight reading stuff way too hard for me. Picked up Delius' three preludes for piano the other day, but feel they're still beyond me for now. Just don't fit under your fingers AT ALL. [video=youtube;0z0DtLlEqKk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0DtLlEqKk[/video] Started on Rachmaninoff's polichinelle from his morceaux de salon, and Fauré's Andante quasi Allegretto Op.84 No.1 which isn't at all awkward to play. Don't practice at all though. When I get near a real piano I could play for days, but the electronic one in my flat isn't satisfying to play tbh. :c Think next I'll try Messiaen's "La colombe". Super amazing harmonic language. [video=youtube;z2pwTP7g7xE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2pwTP7g7xE[/video] Are you working on anything else at the moment (as if the sonata isn't enough)? What was the last piece you focussed on?
[QUOTE=Ntag;49923808]So jealous of you man. I wish I could play to that standard, though I get far too lazy with scales and such. Super tiring though to play that colossal piece through haha. Are you studying music? Performing? Spend most my time sight reading stuff way too hard for me. Picked up Delius' three preludes for piano the other day, but feel they're still beyond me for now. Just don't fit under your fingers AT ALL. [video=youtube;0z0DtLlEqKk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0DtLlEqKk[/video] Started on Rachmaninoff's polichinelle from his morceaux de salon, and Fauré's Andante quasi Allegretto Op.84 No.1 which isn't at all awkward to play. Don't practice at all though. When I get near a real piano I could play for days, but the electronic one in my flat isn't satisfying to play tbh. :c Think next I'll try Messiaen's "La colombe". Super amazing harmonic language. [video=youtube;z2pwTP7g7xE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2pwTP7g7xE[/video] Are you working on anything else at the moment (as if the sonata isn't enough)? What was the last piece you focussed on?[/QUOTE] Oh no, I don't claim to be able to play it to any degree of proficiency yet. Haha. I was just toying with it mostly, I wouldn't even consider my self an amateur pianist, just someone who presses the keys on a piano. I actually printed the scores months ago but they just sat in a corner of my desk collecting dust; I'd tried playing the first couple of pages before, as well as the ending (from the Stretta quasi presto section onwards). And then last night at 1AM I decided that it was time to try playing the whole thing. Took me two long, tiring hours but I managed to get through it. It genuinely defeats you: technically it isn't as fearsome as some of the other virtuoso pieces (e.g. Rach 3, Hammerklavier, Transcendental Etudes), but musically it is incredibly difficult to string together coherently. Before that I was working on-and-off on Chopin's 4th Ballade, as well as Mozart's Sonata in B-flat K.333. Never quite got round to polishing the coda for the ballade though, maybe I should settle that first...
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;49926869]Oh no, I don't claim to be able to play it to any degree of proficiency yet. Haha. I was just toying with it mostly, I wouldn't even consider my self an amateur pianist, just someone who presses the keys on a piano. I actually printed the scores months ago but they just sat in a corner of my desk collecting dust; I'd tried playing the first couple of pages before, as well as the ending (from the Stretta quasi presto section onwards). And then last night at 1AM I decided that it was time to try playing the whole thing. Took me two long, tiring hours but I managed to get through it. It genuinely defeats you: technically it isn't as fearsome as some of the other virtuoso pieces (e.g. Rach 3, Hammerklavier, Transcendental Etudes), but musically it is incredibly difficult to string together coherently. Before that I was working on-and-off on Chopin's 4th Ballade, as well as Mozart's Sonata in B-flat K.333. Never quite got round to polishing the coda for the ballade though, maybe I should settle that first...[/QUOTE] Still some impressive pieces to be practicing. Hopefully one day I can attempt the Ballades or Scherzos. Uploaded lots of impressionistic stuff recently: [video=youtube;9d7R3SY7IkA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d7R3SY7IkA[/video] Check out the third of the set of three. Utterly magical. [video=youtube;qP54CjXD1xo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP54CjXD1xo[/video] Super fun piece, not really impressionistic though. [video=youtube;fgt74FhMQME]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgt74FhMQME[/video] This guy was an exact contemporary with Debussy and some of these sonatines foreshadow his Estampes and Images. Super amazing writing for piano and I'm amazed he isn't more popular.
Bump with cool obscure piano repertoire time: [video=youtube;8T_Fv8DZbqY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T_Fv8DZbqY[/video] [video=youtube;7xsGnZLjSr4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xsGnZLjSr4[/video] [video=youtube;0A4aUIPTlPI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A4aUIPTlPI[/video] Also decided to pick up the dew fairy from this set. Utterly magical and not too hard to play despite how it sounds: [video=youtube;2YGGEbSI_fo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YGGEbSI_fo&t=5m[/video]
Bumping with a classic, Pogorelich with Chopin's Scherzo 3: [video=youtube;QwMnYP91tMo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwMnYP91tMo[/video] Lightning fast octaves, incredible clarity even in the fastest runs, with the lightest of touch in the "waterfall" passages. You really can't get much better than this.
Could this be considered classical? It has lots of piano... like lots [video=youtube;nK3hkUiticw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK3hkUiticw&ab_channel=garyuu789[/video]
[video=youtube;vhzW7TrkdUA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhzW7TrkdUA[/video] One of the most stylistic composers I've ever heard. His voice is so quirky and lively. Super bombastic if you listen past the start. Pretty epic stuff. He was decapitated in a car crash too at quite a young age. Shame. Amazing piano music too: [video=youtube;QpPx03mrPAo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpPx03mrPAo[/video] The forlane is sooo good.
There's some pretty creative notation going on in the Forlane that's for sure. While on the topic of "died too young", here's one of my favourite recordings of Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody no. 11 by the American pianist William Kapell, who unfortunately died in an airplane crash at the age of 31. [video=youtube;cjXCs190hpM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjXCs190hpM[/video]
[video=youtube;NfciSCzKvp4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfciSCzKvp4[/video] Grigory Sokolov's rendition of the 3rd movement of Beethoven's Piano Sonata no. 17 is the only one I've found so far that actually respects the score. In the first 8 bars, the bass note in the left hand is de-emphasised, and the second semiquaver is held as it should be. The final note in the right hand motif is given a clean staccatissimo. In the next 6 bars he changes to emphasise the bass note in the left hand, and he holds the other notes to give the feeling of an arpeggiated chord. In the rest of the movement, he pays a similar level of attention to all the little articulation details that everyone else forgets. His judicious use of the pedal avoids muddling the clean sound that I think Beethoven should be played with. My only possible complaint are that the dynamics in some parts deviate slightly from the score but they don't detract from the interpretation. No other pianist I've heard has achieved this level of clarity with this piece, shame about the sound quality. I sound like such a score snob but frankly this isn't Chopin, Liszt, Debussy, or Ravel where you have all the latitude in the world to interpret the piece as you like. It's very much still a Classical sonata and should be played as such. Beethoven didn't take all that effort to write the notes specifically the way he did only for you to throw it all away. Maybe with Mozart you can do that, his sonatas are so boring anyway it probably improves when you invent your own articulation and dynamics.
His Schubert is insane as well. Speaking of which, I've been absolutely addicted to Scribain's Prometheus (and poem of ecstacy) for the past month. I don't think I've ever listened to a piece of this length so many times over and over. Every single time you find something new -- it's utterly perfect. Ashkenazy's recording is unparalleled in my opinion -- not even Muti can come close for Prometheus, though his recording for the poem of ecstacy is insanely good. [video=youtube;6Sr43rP8huo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sr43rP8huo[/video] Sadly Ashkenazy's recording with Peter Jablonski isn't on youtube. Man, I wish he lived another 10 years. The way he was going with his later sonatas and orchestral works just makes you want more. The fact that Nemtin sacrificed his composing career to complete the Mysterium Prefatory action speaks volumes about how special his work was. Names like Feinberg, Blet, Roslavets and Sabaneyev scratch that Scriabin itch, but nothing will ever come close to his actual work.
I honestly did not know that Scriabin wrote orchestral pieces. Thanks for sharing.
I think they're honestly his best stuff. The first movement of the mysterium prefatory action (universe) was pretty much finished when he died so there's also that. Not a big fan of his first three symphonies but his first piano concerto is also sublime.
[video=youtube;fMjPiv5IrdU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMjPiv5IrdU[/video] Was practising piano, decided to do a short recording of Mozart K.333. It's pretty messy and I'm not happy with the articulation and dynamics but hey, we all gotta start somewhere. Might record the whole first movement if I can get some time on the nicer piano in college.
Were you holding the sostenuto the entire time? Or is that just the quality of the piano?
[QUOTE=revan740;51120005]Were you holding the sostenuto the entire time? Or is that just the quality of the piano?[/QUOTE] That was recorded in a chapel with very wet acoustics, which might explain the apparent sostenuto. I tried to cut down on this by closing the lid but it still comes through quite strongly. Also some of the dampers are stuck and don't go all the way down so some notes are sustained. It's quite annoying, I'm going to try to record on a better piano if I can, and hopefully with a proper microphone.
[QUOTE=Pops;48798819]thread bump time, i found a rather excellent recording of holst's planets suite [url]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1pm-oq_XEZyT-CXy4GSb_SX7nhCXyS3S[/url][/QUOTE] i performed Mars in an orchestra last year, it was quite the experience
I won't claim to know a whole lot about classical music outside of a few composers, but Celibidache is certainly my favorite conductor. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptAopRqW1Gc[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy5Ve3338-E[/media] Look at the emotion there. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9RT2nHD6CQ[/media] He really knew how to exaggerate the right sounds to kick up a piece's sentiment.
That Libera Me from the Faure Requiem was taken wayyy too slow. When you have to take 5x more breaths that Faure allows you in the writing, you know it's wrong. But the Faure Requiem has to be one of the most beautiful requiems. That and the Verdi. You may like it.
Started learning scriabin's op 32 no1 poem. Exciting to be getting near the point when I can attempt more and more of the pieces I enjoy listening to. Sadly I doubt I'll ever reach Gaspard or Sonata 8 levels though. [video=youtube;svTk2Ujwv8Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svTk2Ujwv8Q[/video] Goal is to learn the first and last movements of Ravel's sonatine within 2 years. I did the middle a while ago already! [video=youtube;-XDs37sQRa4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XDs37sQRa4[/video] [video=youtube;jAerHOMBcB0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAerHOMBcB0[/video] Some of the most wonderous writing for the piano harmonically. Ravel and Scriabin are the true giants of composing for the instrument.
I'm beginning to really get into Ravel's works. Scriabin not so much, and I still can't connect with Prokofiev. This though. Blows my mind. Utterly insane piece written by an insane man for insane pianists to attempt. Going with a different version than the usual Horowitz interpretation. [video=youtube;4ulreFAgJk8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ulreFAgJk8[/video]
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;51169604]I'm beginning to really get into Ravel's works. Scriabin not so much, and I still can't connect with Prokofiev.[/QUOTE] Such a shame Ravel's output was cut off by the taxi accident. Don't think there's a single work by him that isn't of great quality. Despite Scriabin being Russian I feel his music veers way more towards the French school of colour. Maria Lettberg's box set is amazing for listening through his stuff and it lets you keep rediscovering pieces. Honestly his output is just the gift that keeps on giving. Totally with you on Prokofiev. Can enjoy some of his stuff but I fail to really grasp his piano sonatas. Been listening to lots of Casella these past few days. Has some really good moments in lots of his stuff. Don't know too many composers from Italy with such a good output for piano from the past century. [video=youtube;k8QBZwd986A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8QBZwd986A[/video]
I'm completely obsessed with the Appassionata sonata now. So difficult yet so rewarding.
My favourite lil American Impressionist [video=youtube;Fopi9FSqgEU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fopi9FSqgEU[/video] His works are surprisingly advanced with some really neat ideas in there and like synthetic scales. Love his piano works so much. Shame influenza took him. [video=youtube;MJD57IhSTUg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJD57IhSTUg[/video] not the best recording but i couldnt find anything else at the time.
so my community band just had our winter concert on friday, and we played this piece in it. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzIRt_f7qWk[/media] great piece to listen to, but if you're a brass player, this is the worst song ever, my part didn't start until the second half of the piece (at about 3:22).
I've got a mate who does percussion and had to sit through Bruckner 8 for like 40 minutes just for a single cymbal crash. [video=youtube;u936hPoHpao]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u936hPoHpao[/video] Have some test piece schlock to make up for it. That euph solo. [video=youtube;tOjQ4j9bLvg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOjQ4j9bLvg[/video] The holy grail of trumpet parts. It's like one big solo. The ending is something else too. Skip aheda to 16:40 if you're short for time.
[QUOTE=Ntag;51195676]My favourite lil American Impressionist [video=youtube;Fopi9FSqgEU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fopi9FSqgEU[/video] His works are surprisingly advanced with some really neat ideas in there and like synthetic scales. Love his piano works so much. Shame influenza took him. [video=youtube;MJD57IhSTUg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJD57IhSTUg[/video] not the best recording but i couldnt find anything else at the time.[/QUOTE] nice I have a new piece to learn now
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;51559236]nice I have a new piece to learn now[/QUOTE] Which ones you going for? I looked at the lake at evening but the others look pretty mental to play. [video=youtube;7AqXrydTmHg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AqXrydTmHg[/video] Check out the tango from this set: [video=youtube;lvzpUGUQBto]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzpUGUQBto[/video] [video=youtube;mStIP_3b_Rk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mStIP_3b_Rk[/video] Still gutted Hexameron's youtube channel was shut down. Was the way I discovered Griffes, Lourie, Bridge, Krein and countless others. Tried to upload as many as possible but the majority of his even more obscure videos are lost to time.
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