• Classical music discussion
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well if modern classical counts then Music for 18 Musicians by Steve Reich needs to be in this thread. The first classical piece I really got into. Here's one part of it. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx27voOtpNs[/media]
[QUOTE=The Maestro;30636269] I own that exact one on vinyl. [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] [/QUOTE] WTF, I just found out it was never pressed on CD. :argh:
Let me take a moment to educate you all on a composer I adore, [b]Gustav Mahler[/b] Although his music only really exists in two genres (song and symphony) the amount he put in those two genres qualifies him as one of the greatest composers ever. In his time, he was largely known as a conductor, and his music was often very harshly criticized for being too modern, however, after a modern revival he's come to be seen as both the last Romantic composer as well as the first Modern composer. He was practically worshiped by Schoenberg, Webern, Berg, and tons of other composers who would come to be known as the "Second Viennese School". And now for some of this brilliant man's music: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUqwILe0tO4[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QYsPhAaATI&feature=related[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH_v9niFoVc[/media]
I can't seem to find any good editions of Walter's interpretations of Mahler. I have found some of his "Brahms" work though. Reckon that's any good?
I have heard Walter's recording of Brahms' third symphony which was decent. I have not heard much else of his besides Mahler, though.
Oh well. This Bach album is working a treat though, it's very well recorded.
Here's a good site that has a bunch of public domain recordings, featuring a lot of Walter. [URL]http://public-domain-archive.com/classic/compositions.php?lang=eng&composer_no=47[/URL]
[QUOTE=The Maestro;30636809]Here's a good site that has a bunch of public domain recordings, featuring a lot of Walter. [URL]http://public-domain-archive.com/classic/compositions.php?lang=eng&composer_no=47[/URL][/QUOTE] Nice... I'd listen to some, if they were in album form. :smugdog:
Album form is too mainstream :smug:
the thing I hate about getting classical music is that there are usually like a million recordings and I have no idea which one to get and if I do know which one is supposed to be the best one it's most likely not available and there's one by a different composer and if I get it I probably won't get the best quality but I don't know and it's just so confusing.
Well, it's all up to personal taste. For instance, Leonard Bernstein is usually credited as the best Mahler conductor, but I like Walter and Karajan better. Also, more modern classical: [b]A Survivor from Warsaw[/b] by Schoenberg [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuP0SExoojQ[/media]
[QUOTE=pie_is_good;30637030]the thing I hate about getting classical music is that there are usually like a million recordings and I have no idea which one to get and if I do know which one is supposed to be the best one it's most likely not available and there's one by a different composer and if I get it I probably won't get the best quality but I don't know and it's just so confusing.[/QUOTE] It's probably all based on luck. You either end up getting a shitty recording or a really good one. I bet the smug of the music world know their way around this though. :smith:
You just have to find a bunch of recordings by different artists and see which one suits you.
I did hear Maurizio Pollini's interpretation of Chopin today though, and I loved it. Very well recorded and the playing was sublime. I think I'll just stick to certain people's interpretations rather than going broad like I thought I ought to.
Pollini is one Chopin performer I neglected to mention as being a great one. He also does some decent Schoenberg.
I'll take my chances with this album [IMG]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o202/akayz_people/87646491888957110378.jpg[/IMG] Don't know why, just seems interesting. :v:
fuck yeah minnesota
I go for London Symphony Orchestra, Berliner Philharmoniker, Boston Symphony Orchestra, and Saint-Martin-in-the-Fields Chamber Orchestra usually if I'm unsure of what album by a specific composer. Edit: Karajan's Pines of Rome is awesome, but Veoh is not. The full uninterrupted recording is [url=http://www.veoh.com/watch/v17213055Fm5S4EZr]here[/url].
Apparently Columbia Symphony Orchestra did some good stuff too. There must be some kind of album discussion when it comes to Classical music. I'm gonna take a good look around.
[QUOTE=AK'z;30637375]I'll take my chances with this album [IMG]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o202/akayz_people/87646491888957110378.jpg[/IMG] Don't know why, just seems interesting. :v:[/QUOTE] That is one of his best pieces. The last song always leaves me with tears in my eyes. Can't comment on the orchestra or conductor, however.
[QUOTE=pie_is_good;30637030]the thing I hate about getting classical music is that there are usually like a million recordings and I have no idea which one to get and if I do know which one is supposed to be the best one it's most likely not available and there's one by a different composer and if I get it I probably won't get the best quality but I don't know and it's just so confusing.[/QUOTE] this, I'm scared to step out of the recorded music age D: anyway, only long classical piece I've listened to (I listen to debussy and satie songs a lot) is Symphony of Sorrowful Songs by Gorecki, which is modern anyway. Have some of my grandpa's old records of tchaikovsky, guess I should bust those out soon
I think these classical smuggers have hidden themselves from view and have not bothered to present the best recordings. Seriously, looking at Mozart on rateyourmusic doesn't help at all.. There's too many of them :gonk:
[QUOTE=AK'z;30637072]It's probably all based on luck. You either end up getting a shitty recording or a really good one. I bet the smug of the music world know their way around this though. :smith:[/QUOTE] Should be easy for you to check, just search the piece you want to listen to on What and read the comments on the different releases.
[QUOTE=AK'z;30640263]I think these classical smuggers have hidden themselves from view and have not bothered to present the best recordings. Seriously, looking at Mozart on rateyourmusic doesn't help at all.. There's too many of them :gonk:[/QUOTE] Don't despair. Part of the experience of classical music is picking what interpretation suits [i]you[/i]. Sure, there are recordings generally considered good, like Glenn Gould's interpretation of Mozart, but it ultimately depends on what you like hearing. If you like how it sounds, no one (smart) will judge you based on which album of the same piece you choose. Example: I like this sonata by Scarlatti. This probably isn't the best recording around, but I like it. (The performer transposed the piece from G major to F major) [media]http://vimeo.com/51987[/media] Usually when I'm getting albums I don't care who plays it as long as they're playing what I want to listen to and they sound good.
So Ak'z, what do you think of Mahler's [i]Song of the Earth[/i]?
I figured scaruffi would have a good resource for a noob like me. [url]http://www.scaruffi.com/music/essentia.html[/url] this is my summer project!
[QUOTE=The Maestro;30640696]So Ak'z, what do you think of Mahler's [i]Song of the Earth[/i]?[/QUOTE] I'll have to give it a go tomorrow. The Chopin and Bach that I heard was awesome. I have some Brahms by Bruno Walter too. I would still call my classical album collection feeble.
The Maestro and Shostakovich, you should make a list of the recordings you like the best, that might be good to have for someone looking to get into the genres.
I'd say the Bach violin solos album I posted on the last page is essential. It's so damn well recorded and is a sublime delivery of genius. :slick:
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;30635454] also mitsuko is my waifu [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA7wxj5cw2o[/media] hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng! GLORIOUUUUUUS[/QUOTE] oh my god I wish I could play like that
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