The human plots of most monster movies ruin things (Looking at you, Godzilla 2014) but I thought Jurassic World's was okay.
[QUOTE=goldenbuttocks;48086394]The human plots of most monster movies ruin things[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;XIgbPTBINhk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIgbPTBINhk[/video]
[QUOTE=goldenbuttocks;48086394]The human plots of most monster movies ruin things (Looking at you, Godzilla 2014) but I thought Jurassic World's was okay.[/QUOTE]
if you thought jurassic world's human plot stuff was better than g-14, you need to get your head out of your ass.
[QUOTE=Pops;48106900]if you thought jurassic world's human plot stuff was better than g-14, you need to get your head out of your ass.[/QUOTE]
but G14's human stuff was legitimately horrible. bryan canston died within fucking 15 minutes. i did not care for arin taylor johnsons character and his family, they were really boring and a drag to watch. the worst part though is that all the human characters reaction to a [b]gigantic lizard monster destroying an entire city[/b] were so apathetic and unemotional, like half the time it looked like they didn't even give a shit.
Both had bad characters, what's better about G14 is that it tries to make more sense than JW.
it didn't try to make more sense, it actually [i]did[/i] make more sense
in jurassic world you have this dumb sideplot of "hey r parents r gettin divorced" that is never brought up or seen to be resolved in any way and a "military dinosaurs" that is obviously saved for a sequel, on top of that you have consistent incompetent humans thinking they can contain and salvage the outbreak, and not admit that everything has gone down shit creek.
in g-14, you have a scientist trying to prove that something hidden from humanity exists, he dies while doing it, his son then simply tries to get home while constantly floating down shit creek. the military eventually realizes they can't do anything except nuke the monsters and the kid puts humanity above his own shoulders to make sure the monsters go but is saved at the last moment.
the big difference is the humans in godzilla didn't somehow outrun a fucking t-rex and a hybrid dinosaur in fucking stilettos, they either used transportation, were out of reach, or straight fucking died. jurassic world tries to be more than it is, godzilla is just straight up a monster fight and doesn't attempt to go any further than that.
tl;dr g-14 is how you do this recent trend of old sequels in the same taste as the original right, jw is not.
[QUOTE=Pops;48116977]it didn't try to make more sense, it actually [i]did[/i] make more sense
in jurassic world you have this dumb sideplot of "hey r parents r gettin divorced" that is never brought up or seen to be resolved in any way and a "military dinosaurs" that is obviously saved for a sequel, on top of that you have consistent incompetent humans thinking they can contain and salvage the outbreak, and not admit that everything has gone down shit creek.
in g-14, you have a scientist trying to prove that something hidden from humanity exists, he dies while doing it, his son then simply tries to get home while constantly floating down shit creek. the military eventually realizes they can't do anything except nuke the monsters and the kid puts humanity above his own shoulders to make sure the monsters go but is saved at the last moment.
the big difference is the humans in godzilla didn't somehow outrun a fucking t-rex and a hybrid dinosaur in fucking stilettos, they either used transportation, were out of reach, or straight fucking died. jurassic world tries to be more than it is, godzilla is just straight up a monster fight and doesn't attempt to go any further than that.
tl;dr g-14 is how you do this recent trend of old sequels in the same taste as the original right, jw is not.[/QUOTE]
i get what you're saying, about how the humans were trying to see the bigger picture. but then if they were trying to make a point out of that, the monsters should have at least a little more screen time. and bryan canston, whose character was the only one who foresaw this, should have lived then.
Just saw it.
Of course still coming down from the "kaiju high" (as some call it), but I'd give the thing an honest-to-god 7/10
[editline]5th July 2015[/editline]
Of course, judging by avatar and username, take what I say with a grain of salt :v:
if jurassic world fits the bill of a kaiju movie then god help us all
[QUOTE=Pops;48130387]if jurassic world fits the bill of a kaiju movie then god help us all[/QUOTE]
The term is inappropriate at the instant but I couldn't say "dinosaur movie high" because there aren't a whole lot of those
Saw it today, gotta say it was a lot better than I expected it to be.
Don't get me wrong, it rivaled Prometheus with its stupid moments, like [sp]Sending a ground team after a giant dinosaur, giving the only helicopter on the island to their CEO with a 2 day-old pilot's license, or the I-rex talking the raptors into turning on his captors)[/sp] and so much more. But unlike Prometheus, it had likable characters and good action sequences and didn't take itself overly seriously.
And god damn if that last scene wasn't worth the price of admission alone.
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Pseudo spoilers.
I used to love following this blog called "A-Dinosaur-A-Day", it was full of awesome paleo art and facts.
But no.
It's just the usual tumblr bullshit.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48156182][url]http://i.gyazo.com/f9697f3dfa5b9ce31abfbb002945c703.png[/url]
Pseudo spoilers.
I used to love following this blog called "A-Dinosaur-A-Day", it was full of awesome paleo art and facts.
But no.
It's just the usual tumblr bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Link isn't working.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48156182][url]http://i.gyazo.com/f9697f3dfa5b9ce31abfbb002945c703.png[/url]
Pseudo spoilers.
I used to love following this blog called "A-Dinosaur-A-Day", it was full of awesome paleo art and facts.
But no.
It's just the usual tumblr bullshit.[/QUOTE]
I like that [sp]People are screaming "SEXIST!!" When, it was the first female human death of the series so far, and thus was made longer and particularly brutal in celebration of that fact[/sp]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48156287]Ogch, nyet
[url=http://i.imgur.com/JbvN0ww.png]now[/url]?[/QUOTE]
There we go. Not entirely sure it was worth it, but still.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;48156283]I like that [sp]People are screaming "SEXIST!!" When, it was the first female human death of the series so far, and thus was made longer and particularly brutal in celebration of that fact[/sp][/QUOTE]
And also [sp]She was kindof a jackass since she was more occupied with fiddlefucking with her phone than watching the kids, which was her job. She got the medicine that the kids nearly got, see: being eaten by a large carnivore[/sp]
i thought [sp]the way the mosasaurus came for her was like a small homage to jaws[/sp]
[QUOTE=Pops;48159807]i thought [sp]the way the mosasaurus came for her was like a small homage to jaws[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Jurassic World had a lot of homages to other films, at least I believe so. The ACU scene where they get picked off one by one and they flat-line in the Control Center felt like the scene in Aliens where the crew gets flat-lined one by one due to the Aliens attacking. And of course the Mosasaurus scene. I bet the reason they had it eat a shark was to have a homage to Jaws.[/sp]
There was also the [sp]homage to the car scene from the first movie, where the car falls upside down on Grant and Timmy, where he comments how they are "back in the car". Similiar of what happens to the kids when they try to escape. Just before they start to run it falls one last time on them.[/sp]
Sequel set for 2018. Woo!
With Jurassic World - Fallen Kingdom sequel coming out, here's some teasers for the trailer on Thursday, featuring an animatronic T-Rex (finally) and a [sp]Baryonyx[/sp]
[video=youtube;185m4o2uWh4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=185m4o2uWh4[/video]
Is there anything worse than a trailer for a trailer?
Has been practice for a long time to do these trailers for trailers. Sucks but you can't do anything about it.
I'm going to shamelessly bump this thread because I just came back from seeing Fallen Kingdom and wanted to share my thoughts on the movie.
As someone who actually enjoyed the first Jurassic World and, despite some of the goofiness of the trailers, was somewhat excited for this one, I found Fallen Kingdom a lot more disappointing than I thought I would.
Part of the reason I was interested in this movie was because I really liked the concept of the characters racing against the clock to rescue some dinosaurs and find Blue before the volcano erupts. So I'm disappointed that they really didn't do much with that concept. By the time they find Blue, there's a 180 degree turn and suddenly the mercs Owen and Claire came with are bad guys (I mean, of course they were going to be, but the way it works in the movie felt too sudden and jarring); the volcano is blowing up and it feels like we're barely into the film.
Speaking of the mercs, Fallen Kingdom certainly has a villain problem. That is to say, they're hammy and blunt. If you weren't sure the merc was a bad guy, here he is pulling teeth from live dinosaurs as trophies (as they're in cages, no less. This also leads to a dumb scene where he lets the Indo Raptor loose trying to get a tooth). The suited guy who started this whole endeavor under the guise of a humanitarian effort still a little morally gray? Here he is murdering an old man by suffocating him with a pillow.
The obligatory child (because a Jurassic film must have children, for whatever reason) was frustrating (as they usually are, but she took it to another level). She's the grand-daughter of the not-Hammond --or Ben Lockwood, as he's called (whom apparently dreamed up and worked on the park with Hammond) --who was funding the expedition in the first place. She's used mostly as a vessel for the audience to listen in on the bad guys' evil expositions and later as a thing to be protected. But to add another dimension to it, her parentage is kept a mystery until it's revealed she's a clone of Lockwood's daughter (apparently something that drove Hammond and Lockwood apart). It all felt unnecessary.
The comic relief of the movie was this wimpy computer guy who was far more annoying than he was funny and showed up when convenient to the plot later in the film. There was a veterinarian woman as well, but aside from helping Blue after he got shot, she's pretty forgettable and didn't do much except make snarky comments.
It evokes several situations that I guess could be considered "homages" to the other movies, but after seeing a couple, it just feels like copying. There's a scene where the girl is in a dumbwaiter as the Indo Raptor charges for her that is exactly like the scene in the first Jurassic Park where Lex is trying to hide in the kitchen (down to the same tugging as she tries to close the hatch), the beginning premise on the island and capturing dinosaurs is similar to the Lost World, and there's a scene where Owen and co. hide behind a museum display that is reminiscent of the Dr. Grant hiding behind the flipped SUV when the T-Rex escapes its paddock in the first movie.
Dr. Henry Wu is simply around and left alive to keep the franchise alive. He comes off as incredibly incompetent when he acts like he's "in it for the science" or whatever and works with people that want to sell and weaponize mutant dinosaurs, and when they start doing so (albeit with his prototype Indo Raptor) he's becomes more conscientious of what he's doing.
The Indo Raptor is oddly human. As the merc leader is trying to get a tooth from it after he believes he has tranquilized it; the Indo Raptor feigns sleeping and as the man isn't looking, raises its tail only to lay it down again when he looks behind him. The raptor is literally smiling at the camera each time it does this. Then there's a scene where it is chasing the girl to her bedroom only to go outside and come in from her balcony door sneaking across the roof, gently opening her door, and slowly reaches for the girl as she hides beneath her cover. Which also brings me to another point about the Indo Raptor, in that: it's supposed to be a highly intelligent predator with keen senses, but doesn't immediately attack the girl while she's merely under the covers and can't seem to sniff out three frightened and no doubt sweaty and smelly people hiding behind a display right behind it.
The ending was particularly frustrating because they treat it like a wholesome thing to release all the dinosaurs into the wild (with the child saying some "words of wisdom" to boot) but it just creates an issue for everyone. They have herbivores with no natural predators aside from other dinosaurs who will affect ecosystems with how much they need to consume, you have carnivores (apex predators, in fact) who will find more prey than just their fellow dinosaurs (read: people), and the shadowy figures that are so interested in this "genetic arms race" are going hunt these dinosaurs down (hello, sequel bait). All the while, the movie is book-ended with Dr. Malcolm cautioning the human race about dinosaurs outliving us and declared the dinosaurs should be left on the island to die earlier; sending mixed-messages.
The movie is, really, a collection of cool scenes loosely strung together by a plot. There's some neat visuals and moments (many seen in the trailers, of course), like one of a Brontosaurus left behind on the island engulfed by as, but the moments in between are often frustrating or dumb.
I hate to say it, but this movie is dumb. If you thought the first Jurassic World was bad, I think you'd feel that twice as much with this film. It's a dumb summer spectacle when it could have been more than that and relies more on spectacle than substance.
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Jurassic World (2015)
