Aw man, aw jeez, that was one hell of an episode. Can't believe I have to wait a whole week for what happens next!
[sp]They really thinned the ranks with this one! RIP Wrench and Number. Bye, Glenn. I [I]really[/I] hope Molly pulls through, man oh man.[/sp]
[sp]Lester was really up to some shenanigans. It's interesting how he's acting out his jealousy (or is it more resentment) of his brother, how he sees his brother as a representation of everything he didn't - couldn't - achieve. He's definitely slipping from 'resourceful' to 'devious' though, I wonder how long he'll be able to keep up before it all tumbles down.[/sp]
Anyone spot the Los Cronocrimenes (Timecrimes) reference in the last episode, with the bandages?
Or maybe I just like Los Cronocrimenes too much...
[editline]21st May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;44866222]Aw man, aw jeez, that was one hell of an episode. Can't believe I have to wait a whole week for what happens next!
[sp]They really thinned the ranks with this one! RIP Wrench and Number. Bye, Glenn. I [I]really[/I] hope Molly pulls through, man oh man.[/sp]
[sp]Lester was really up to some shenanigans. It's interesting how he's acting out his jealousy (or is it more resentment) of his brother, how he sees his brother as a representation of everything he didn't - couldn't - achieve. He's definitely slipping from 'resourceful' to 'devious' though, I wonder how long he'll be able to keep up before it all tumbles down.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Wrench isn't dead. Which will lead to fun times with him being deaf and alone.[/sp]
[editline]21st May 2014[/editline]
[sp]Also, when lester planted the hammer and the panties in his brothers locker, I was freaking the fuck out.[/sp]
Man that was like a season final if they were going to do another season with the same cast and story. How this is going to last another 4 whole episodes I have no idea. Show fucking owns
[QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;44866423]Anyone spot the Los Cronocrimenes (Timecrimes) reference in the last episode, with the bandages?
Or maybe I just like Los Cronocrimenes too much...[/quote]
I assume it's just a generic bandaged face (although I admittedly haven't seen Timecrimes yet). Heck, I was reminded of the Unknown Superman but I'm sure that wasn't their intention.
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[quote][sp]Wrench isn't dead. Which will lead to fun times with him being deaf and alone.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I assumed Molly shot him offscreen, when we hear her shout "police officer" and fire off a few rounds. I will be pleasantly surprised if our favorite sideburn'd deaf man is still around, though.[/sp]
It says at the beginning of the show that it's based on actual events which occurred in 2006. I dont understand how that can be true if its based on a film which came out in 1996.
[QUOTE=Kenneth;44870867]It says at the beginning of the show that it's based on actual events which occurred in 2006. I dont understand how that can be true if its based on a film which came out in 1996.[/QUOTE]
It's not really based on the film at all, the story is completely different. And it's probably just there because they had something similar in the movie, even though that wasn't based on real events either.
[QUOTE=Kenneth;44870867]It says at the beginning of the show that it's based on actual events which occurred in 2006. I dont understand how that can be true if its based on a film which came out in 1996.[/QUOTE]
the film takes place in 1987
the show takes place in 2006 and is only loosely connected
The "true story" claim is based on [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fargo_%28film%29#Factual_basis]a similar claim from the original film[/url].
[QUOTE]Although the film plot is completely fictional, the Coen brothers claim that many of the events that take place in the movie were actually based on true events from other cases that they threw together to make one story. Joel Coen noted:
[QUOTE]"We weren't interested in that kind of fidelity. The basic events are the same as in the real case, but the characterizations are fully imagined ... If an audience believes that something's based on a real event, it gives you permission to do things they might otherwise not accept."[/QUOTE]
The Coens claim the actual murders took place, but not in Minnesota. The main reason for the film's setting is the Coens were born and raised in St. Louis Park, a suburb of Minneapolis.
On Fargo's special edition DVD's trivia track, it is revealed that the main case that inspired the movie is the infamous 1986 murder of Helle Crafts from Connecticut at the hands of her husband, Richard, who disposed of her body through a wood chipper.
The end credits bear the standard "all persons fictitious" disclaimer for a work of fiction.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;44870996]The "true story" claim is based on [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fargo_%28film%29#Factual_basis]a similar claim from the original film[/url].[quote]"We weren't interested in that kind of fidelity. The basic events are the same as in the real case, but the characterizations are fully imagined ... If an audience believes that something's based on a real event, it gives you permission to do things they might otherwise not accept."[/quote][/QUOTE]
This quote is why you should never trust 'historical' films that claim to be based on a true story or real events.
That episode was intense.
When Lester saw the [sp]picture of his brother and his family, I thought he was going to have a change of heart...then I laughed as he made it worse[/sp] :v:
I think the scariest part of all this is that Lester genuinely believes that he's completely innocent
[editline]22nd May 2014[/editline]
At the beginning of the show I wanted to throttle Gus and hug Lester. The roles have changed.
[QUOTE=Chonch;44880634]I think the scariest part of all this is that Lester genuinely believes that he's completely innocent
[editline]22nd May 2014[/editline]
At the beginning of the show I wanted to throttle Gus and hug Lester. The roles have changed.[/QUOTE]
I don't think Lester thinks he's innocent. I think he's decided that he's going to finally man up and do as he pleases. But, he's not going to flaunt it. No, he'll continue to play the role of a scared, small man. It's the perfect cover.
[editline]22nd May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;44869002]
[sp]I assumed Molly shot him offscreen, when we hear her shout "police officer" and fire off a few rounds. I will be pleasantly surprised if our favorite sideburn'd deaf man is still around, though.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Here's a twist!
[sp]Molly shot Malvo, not Wrench[/sp]
[sp]I kid, I doubt it.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Saxon;44865746]So much happened this episode, it was pretty damn good.
also did anyone notice [sp] that the parking garage as same one as in the movie[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]No it isn't. The parking garage in the movie is in the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, a couple hours south of everything else that's going on. The parking garage doesn't look like that.
Source: I live in Minneapolis. None of the stuff in the show is filmed on location, whereas the film is shot exclusively on location. Duluth doesn't look like that, its skyline isn't as extravagant.[/sp]
Also that episode was super upsetting.
[QUOTE=Void Skull;44882008]
Also that episode was super upsetting.[/QUOTE]
Why?
Also, they should have continued playing that music when [sp]Malvo met the guys from Fargo and the shooting happened. Would have been better if it played out the majority of that scene. Anyone have a recording of the full track somewhere?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44882030]Why?
Also, they should have continued playing that music when [sp]Malvo met the guys from Fargo and the shooting happened. Would have been better if it played out the majority of that scene. Anyone have a recording of the full track somewhere?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Molly's [presumably] dead. Chumph is dead, not really upset about that, but still. And all the other deaths. Really I'm just upset about Molly, if she doesn't pull through, I'm gonna be bummed.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Void Skull;44882102][sp]Molly's [presumably] dead. Chumph is dead, not really upset about that, but still. And all the other deaths. Really I'm just upset about Molly, if she doesn't pull through, I'm gonna be bummed.[/sp][/QUOTE]
It's Fargo. Did you expect a happy ending? :v:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44882113]It's Fargo. Did you expect a happy ending? :v:[/QUOTE]
I didn't expect one, I just wanted one.
[sp]I feel like they built up Molly too much to just kill her. Sure that gives it more shock value but shock value isn't usually worth cutting an arc short like that with no real closure[/sp]
[QUOTE=Chonch;44880634]At the beginning of the show I wanted to throttle Gus and hug Lester. The roles have changed.[/QUOTE]
Even from the first episode Lester's been a fascinating character. They build him up as very sympathetic (small, shy, underachieving, henpecked, Martin Freeman) then shockingly torpedo that goodwill as he brutally murders his wife.
Sure, he's still not [I]totally[/I] terrible (you can tell he's incredibly conflicted as he calls Malvo and goes through her things, plus some folks probably think "oh, she deserved it"), but his actions are moving further from just trying to cover his tracks to more active malevolence.
I remember some review or comment that pointed out Malvo's tapes as sort of 'trophies' - records of his Greatest Hits of temptation and manipulation. Lester's neuroses and psychoses were teased out by that initial "revenge" on Hess and have just moved onwards and upwards since.
[QUOTE=Void Skull;44882008][sp]No it isn't. The parking garage in the movie is in the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, a couple hours south of everything else that's going on. The parking garage doesn't look like that.
Source: I live in Minneapolis. None of the stuff in the show is filmed on location, whereas the film is shot exclusively on location. Duluth doesn't look like that, its skyline isn't as extravagant.[/sp]
Also that episode was super upsetting.[/QUOTE]
[sp]well considering bronzer guy called it "Gustafson Garage" (most likely in memoriam of Wade) and it looks similar it's probably meant to be the same garage, even if it actually isn't.
Plus the whole thing about him "changing his mind" at the gate ripped straight from the movie[/sp]
[QUOTE=FreakySoup;44883041][sp]Plus the whole thing about him "changing his mind" at the gate ripped straight from the movie[/sp][/QUOTE]
The exact line from the movie was right on the tip of his tongue.
Would have been funny if the window had bullet proof glass now
This must be the first TV show that has no likeable characters whatsoever.
Not saying the show's bad or anything, but I'm having trouble relating or feeling sympathetic towards the cast.
[QUOTE=Kindlinho;44890807]This must be the first TV show that has no likeable characters whatsoever.
Not saying the show's bad or anything, but I'm having trouble relating or feeling sympathetic towards the cast.[/QUOTE]
You don't at all feel sympathetic for [sp] Dimitri [/sp] who is completely innocent from all fronts and largely mistreated? I agree with you on most of the other characters though; even the "good guys" like Molly and Grimley are very unlikeable and at the moment I'm rooting more for Lester and Malvo as opposed to the cops. Both of them are terrible police officers that seem to think that ignoring police procedure, like arresting someone without cause or a warrant and breaking and entering a crime scene/home, will somehow be acceptable if the ends are justified.
[QUOTE=Pat4ever;44892403]Both of them are terrible police officers that seem to think that ignoring police procedure, like arresting someone without cause or a warrant and breaking and entering a crime scene/home, will somehow be acceptable if the ends are justified.[/QUOTE]
Just like every cop in fiction ever
[QUOTE=Pat4ever;44892403]You don't at all feel sympathetic for [sp] Dimitri [/sp] who is completely innocent from all fronts and largely mistreated? I agree with you on most of the other characters though; even the "good guys" like Molly and Grimley are very unlikeable and at the moment I'm rooting more for Lester and Malvo as opposed to the cops. Both of them are terrible police officers that seem to think that ignoring police procedure, like arresting someone without cause or a warrant and breaking and entering a crime scene/home, will somehow be acceptable if the ends are justified.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure that if it wasn't for the horrible influence of Molly dragging him through the case on a leash and everyone in his department being a total shitcake, Gus would actually be the most okay character in the show. Aside from maybe Sheriff-At-Law Saul Goodman, who, now that I think of it, doesn't get much screentime.
[QUOTE=Pat4ever;44892403]You don't at all feel sympathetic for [sp] Dimitri [/sp] who is completely innocent from all fronts and largely mistreated?[/QUOTE]
No, [sp]I hated him, to be honest.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Pat4ever;44892403]I agree with you on most of the other characters though; even the "good guys" like Molly and Grimley are very unlikeable and at the moment I'm rooting more for Lester and Malvo as opposed to the cops.[/QUOTE]
Molly and Grimley give the impression of stereotypical police dummies. And I don't like Lester or Malvo either because of how unscrupulous they are.
Also, anyone hates the "Aw, jeez" thing? I know it was in the movie, but I just find it really annoying. Especially when Lester says it.
[QUOTE=Kindlinho;44894554]No, [sp]I hated him, to be honest.[/sp]
Molly and Grimley give the impression of stereotypical police dummies. And I don't like Lester or Malvo either because of how unscrupulous they are.
Also, anyone hates the "Aw, jeez" thing? I know it was in the movie, but I just find it really annoying. Especially when Lester says it.[/QUOTE]
Why are you even watching this show?
It's highly-rated and I'm giving it a chance.
It took a while for me to get into Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead or Breaking Bad as well.
[QUOTE=Kindlinho;44900952]It's highly-rated and I'm giving it a chance.
It took a while for me to get into Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead or Breaking Bad as well.[/QUOTE]
Given that this series is an anthology, you may as well step off the train at the station now.
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