Man, all the non comic book readers have no clue that [sp] they never reach Washington [/sp]
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;46401929]Man, all the non comic book readers have no clue that [sp] they never reach Washington [/sp][/QUOTE]
we do now
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;46401929]Man, all the non comic book readers have no clue that [sp] they never reach Washington [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]well that's not entirely true[/sp]
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;46401929]Man, all the non comic book readers have no clue that [sp] they never reach Washington [/sp][/QUOTE]
are u sure u read the comics m8?
[sp]cuz they do, while they don't specifically reach the salvation of the human race, they most certainly reach washington [/sp]
[QUOTE=Flyingman356;46398827]Breaking Bad Spoilers: [sp]the Doctor in this episode did the same thing Walter White did in breaking bad, a doctor threatened to take his place so he had someone kill them, just like Walt did to Gale.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I'm really digging the good guy vibe on the doctor, as savagely self-preservative as he is. Might I even call it moral ambiguity? Is he just using Jesse, I mean Beth, to further his own interests?[/sp]
[sp]Anyway, I'm thinking that the hospital community actually doesn't save people, but rather they knock them out to cause some form of amnesia, maim them in some way, and then use that as the justification for their "service." Honestly though, I have no idea why Dawn didn't just immediately kill Beth, unless she thinks that Beth somehow wasn't involved in the death of Gorman. (on a side note, the lollipop jar head smash was fucking awesome, Emily Kinney seems to act way better when she doesn't say anything) Beth not dying after trying to escape and killing one of the slavemaster people is the mother of all plot armour, how is Beth still alive? Is it because Dawn realizes that the doctor might turn against them if they kill his servant?
Bleh. It's not like we'll see it until much later. I wish they'd just show all the Beth episodes and then all the Terminus episodes. It chops up the pacing in such a weird way. [/sp]
[sp]I think its rather obvious the Hospital only saves people to have additional hands in everyday duty so when the apocalypse is over they can all rejoice together and knew they did their best to save themselves. They're absolutely anal about people leaving because that means one man down, and since they got you better, gave you shelter and medicine, you need to now pay them back forever[/sp]
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46402414][sp]I think its rather obvious the Hospital only saves people to have additional hands in everyday duty so when the apocalypse is over they can all rejoice together and knew they did their best to save themselves. They're absolutely anal about people leaving because that means one man down, and since they got you better, gave you shelter and medicine, you need to now pay them back forever[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Nah. They're just fucking dumb. Can't that bitch realize Beth is just gonna cause, directly or not, the death of more and more people if they don't let her go? That's something that bugged me.[/sp]
[sp] Maybe I'm alone in thinking this but, the hospital Doc was/is very obviously stuck between a rock and a hard place and while he did bad i don't think he warrants a stabbing from Beth [/sp]
[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;46402824][sp] Maybe I'm alone in thinking this but, the hospital Doc was/is very obviously stuck between a rock and a hard place and while he did bad i don't think he warrants a stabbing from Beth [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]At first i thought he led Beth to kill that man and in turn increasing her debt to the Hospital because he liked her and didn't want her to go, which is very bad. But then he said it was about protecting himself which is grayish area if he was sure to be killed. If it's a mix of the two, i think he deserves it.[/sp]
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;46402873][sp]At first i thought he led Beth to kill that man and in turn increasing her debt to the Hospital because he liked her and didn't want her to go, which is very bad. But then he said it was about protecting himself which is grayish area if he was sure to be killed. If it's a mix of the two, i think he deserves it.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] I personally think all he was after was a way to kill the guy without being implicated in the murder and while i think he likes beth i don't think it's in that way, maybe that's because Gorman ran the show and he couldn't make a move, but obviously with gorman out of the way maybe a real asshole surfaces?, seeing as he's not made a pass at Beth though I don't see it. For me there's not enough evidence to suggest he's guilty of more than being a coward at present[/sp]
[sp]I honestly don't think Beth killing the Doc would be entirely justified. There's no way she would be able to cut through to everyone else, the only thing I can think about her doing with the Doc is holding him hostage, at which point Carol leaps out into action and kills everyone. That said, it just wouldn't make any sense for the moment, with what Beth knows. It's a real loose cannon move, and it's not like she has nothing to lose either, she already is on shaky footing with Dawn yet she's still alive. She also doesn't really know about Carol's probable plan, or that Carol is extremely likely to be a badass super saiyan trojan horse considering her single-handed destruction of Terminus.[/sp]
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;46401929]Man, all the non comic book readers have no clue that [sp] they never reach Washington [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]alexandria is like 20 minutes from washington, i've been there myself. they make it.[/sp]
I really hope Rick is going to interact [sp]with the asshole cop. Make her realize how the reality is[/sp]
[QUOTE=Swebonny;46404035]I really hope Rick is going to interact [sp]with the asshole cop. Make her realize how the reality is[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I got a funny feeling she may know him since they're both officers, sure Rick was just a local county cop and asshole cop seems to be apart of the Atlanta Metropolitan police but I'm sure they used to socialise with surrounding forces.
But yes Rick will drive the harsh reality into her, she seems to think that because they're in the heart of the city that the military is on their way when really nobody gives a shit[/sp]
[editline]4th November 2014[/editline]
[sp]Also that episode revealed a little more about the start of the crisis, the Doc said the military napalmed the towns which goes to show how desperate both the US government and Military was to contain and eliminate the virus at all cost. Also should be another contributing factor as to why the asshole cop needs to realise it's every person to themselves[/sp]
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46404174][sp]I got a funny feeling she may know him since they're both officers, sure Rick was just a local county cop and asshole cop seems to be apart of the Atlanta Metropolitan police but I'm sure they used to socialise with surrounding forces.
But yes Rick will drive the harsh reality into her, she seems to think that because they're in the heart of the city that the military is on their way when really nobody gives a shit[/sp]
[editline]4th November 2014[/editline]
[sp]Also that episode revealed a little more about the start of the crisis, the Doc said the military napalmed the towns which goes to show how desperate both the US government and Military was to contain and eliminate the virus at all cost. Also should be another contributing factor as to why the asshole cop needs to realise it's every person to themselves[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] During season 2 Shane and Lori watched Atlanta get bombed in a flashback scene. [/sp]
Also that would be amazing if [sp] Dawn and Rick knew each other. [/sp]
Which brings up my theory behind (comic spoilers) [sp] Daryl being Dwight. Negan captures Daryl + Carol, giving Daryl the burnt mark. I also think they could build upon the story, because Rick + Co. feeling betrayed by Daryl is going to be a bigger impact than some random guy that they think they can't trust. [/sp]
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[b]Holy shit.[/b][/QUOTE]
wow another character with a beard and glasses!!
they dont look alike
[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;46404678]Which brings up my theory behind (comic spoilers) [sp] Daryl being Dwight. Negan captures Daryl + Carol, giving Daryl the burnt mark. I also think they could build upon the story, because Rick + Co. feeling betrayed by Daryl is going to be a bigger impact than some random guy that they think they can't trust. [/sp][/QUOTE]
comic [sp]Daryl being Dwight would be a pretty much perfect way of ending his story, would love to see the reaction to Daryl's face being ironed. but then who would kill Abraham?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;46404678][sp] During season 2 Shane and Lori watched Atlanta get bombed in a flashback scene. [/sp]
Also that would be amazing if [sp] Dawn and Rick knew each other. [/sp]
Which brings up my theory behind (comic spoilers) [sp] Daryl being Dwight. Negan captures Daryl + Carol, giving Daryl the burnt mark. I also think they could build upon the story, because Rick + Co. feeling betrayed by Daryl is going to be a bigger impact than some random guy that they think they can't trust. [/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]But Carol doesn't seem like the kind of woman to fuck someone as abusive and overbearing as Negan (who might as well be as chauvinistic as her husband was) for privileges; that is, if she even does end up with Daryl. Daryl could only get burned if he pissed off and impressed Negan at the same time by killing a fuck ton of his men or something.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;46404678]Which brings up my theory behind (comic spoilers) [sp] Daryl being Dwight. Negan captures Daryl + Carol, giving Daryl the burnt mark. I also think they could build upon the story, because Rick + Co. feeling betrayed by Daryl is going to be a bigger impact than some random guy that they think they can't trust. [/sp][/QUOTE]
I'm not really seeing the link between this "theory" and what was being discussed but uh
comics[sp]Dwight is absolutely supposed to be Daryl-esque, that's something people have been pointing out pretty much since he first held a crossbow. I feel like you're just trying to find a tenuous link. Daryl being "captured" would never lead to him becoming Dwight, Dwight was a higher up in the saviours' ranks and he certainly wasn't there against his will, at least not originally. For Carol to make herself a sex slave (assuming that's what you mean, Negan only ironed people's faces if they had an affair with one of his "wives") would be ridiculous and not make sense at all considering the direction her character's been going in. People are just so damn eager for Negan to appear out of nowhere and I don't get it. An important aspect of Dwight's role is that Rick doesn't trust him at all at first and he builds it up, Daryl and Rick are like brothers to each other. More than one character can use a crossbow, and Daryl might even be dead by then. If they tried to shove Daryl into Dwight's role it would feel forced and ingenuine, that kind of thing only worked with Hershel into like 3 other characters' roles because he had such a different personality in the show. There might not be a Dwight. There might not even be a Negan. Let them do whatever they're going to do.[/sp]
I like this season for the most part, let's see if they can keep up.
[QUOTE=bepassley;46402347]are u sure u read the comics m8?
[sp]cuz they do, while they don't specifically reach the salvation of the human race, they most certainly reach washington [/sp][/QUOTE]
Yeah I know. [sp] They reach Alexandria but not the actual Washington as in city itself. Cuz they specifically said they gotta reach Washington, some place in the city for Eugene to do the thing. [/sp]
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;46406028]Yeah I know. [sp] They reach Alexandria but not the actual Washington as in city itself. Cuz they specifically said they gotta reach Washington, some place in the city for Eugene to do the thing. [/sp][/QUOTE]
you're talking about two different things at once
I read the comics a long time ago stuff is mixed up :(
[QUOTE=H4wkeye;46406069]I read the comics a long time ago stuff is mixed up :([/QUOTE]
(comics)
[sp]they find out eugene was lying before they even get to Alexandria, that's over, done. Immediately after that they end up going into DC with Aaron/Eric to help them get some of their guys out of trouble. Few other times they go into the city, most notably when they go to the Kingdom to meet Ezekial, that's in D.C.[/sp]
Oooh. [sp] I wasn't aware Ezekiel was in D.C [/sp]
I've not read the comics. Is this hospital sequence involved or is it new?
[QUOTE=Dan2593;46406489]I've not read the comics. Is this hospital sequence involved or is it new?[/QUOTE]
New but it seems to be influenced by some aspects of the comic storylines.
[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;46406516]New but it seems to be influenced by some aspects of the comic storylines.[/QUOTE]
... what parts exactly? Nothing of it really made me think "oh this feels like it's influenced by the comics".
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