Holy shit. I took the first bite out of my hotdog at that exact fucking time. I'm not eating hotdog ever again.
Also, please someone link me the scene with [sp]Morgan[/sp]. Fucking torrent version didn't keep the credits and after also the video someone linked here is region locked.
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[QUOTE=Govna;46613837][sp]The other thing that really bothered me about how that went down is Rick really didn't do anything to intervene as the group leader. He was a full-on brute at the beginning, "my way or the highway" mode (he had no reservations with Officer Lamson-- the guy he hit with the car, shot dead, and then for good measure told his corpse to shut up) and yet he didn't even seriously flip out and try to stop Beth when she decided to go in Noah's place. No arguing, no fighting-- not with her or Noah, or Dawn for that matter who it really would have made sense for him to argue with her... he just protested a little bit, stood by, and let Beth go.
I also was expecting Rick to be more brutal and uncompromising with Dawn than he was. Maybe he was subdued more than he had been recently because she was a cop and a leader and he could relate to her. I don't know. Again though, he had no reservations about brutally killing Officer Lamson the way he did; why the reservations with Dawn? Why no big argument or anything at the very least?
The whole thing just didn't make much sense. They stuck around and kept talking when there wasn't anything to talk about and when they should've been making a fast exit, there wasn't any sort of intensity by that point or build up, and suddenly Beth's stabbing Dawn and everything goes to shit. The set up was just really bad. Like I said, there was no reason based off what had happened why things went down the way that they did.
I can kind of understand Beth not giving a shit anymore, it was established back in Season 2 that she had suicidal tendencies and was depressed, and wanting to cause as little trouble for both sides as possible, hence why she opted to go with Dawn in Noah's place, but there wasn't any reason why she had to attack Dawn like she did other than the writers felt the need to kill someone off quickly for the midseason finale and bring the hospital story arc to a close.
Daryl shooting Dawn in the forehead was incredibly satisfying at least.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] The reason why no one was arguing with Beth, was because she wasn't taking Noah's place. She hugged him for doing that, then Dawn said something and she decided in the moment she was going to stab Dawn. Yea she should have stabbed her somewhere else or asked the group to go back for Noah later. She couldn't stand what Dawn was doing, and decided it was best for her to go.
The build up was that both sides didn't really trust each side, they were down a long hallway so if they started shooting there would be lots of deaths from both groups. After the deal was made, Dawn decided she wanted to change the deal and asked for more, which is why Beth stabbed her. [/sp]
I think there was an interesting subtext to that hallway scene:
[sp] The female leader cop essentially built on the idea that leadership was about being respected not loved, the cop that held her position previously was obviously fairly well liked yet he broke down and lost respect due to bad decisions, from that experience she decided she would never lose the respect of her crew, this is further impounded when one of the bad cops challenged her and she ended up killing him with the help of Beth.
Rick on the other hand is loved by his crew, he makes sure he gets involved with them and he genuinely cares for them like family. When the two sides met in the hallway for the trade off we are shown the meeting of the leaders and their style of leadership. The deal would have gone down soundly had it not been for the female cop wanting "more" Which seems to needlessly complicate matters, however in her mind simply letting Ricks group go with the two for two deal would have undermined her leadership in the eyes of her entire group she needed Noah to prove to her group that she is still Boss.
In the end I can't really explain what angle the writers were going for in Beths death, it was just done rather awfully and brings down what is a great scene[/sp]
Atleast they apologized for ruining the episode for a lot of people that hadnt seen it yet
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[QUOTE=Zovox;46616085]Atleast they apologized for ruining the episode for a lot of people that hadnt seen it yet
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never break character guys
even though it's totally our fault keep it in character
social media handling skills of a dairy cow
[QUOTE=Zovox;46616085]Atleast they apologized for ruining the episode for a lot of people that hadnt seen it yet
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A pun [I]and[/I] a hashtag?
Jesus Christ.
am I the only one who can't see the pic? can't even open it in a new tab
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not liking how much of a hobo RIck looks recently, I want his cool jacket back
[QUOTE=Hervey;46616300]am I the only one who can't see the pic? can't even open it in a new tab
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It says:
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[sp]So Maggie is the last of the Greene bloodline. Wonder how they will play this one out.[/sp]
[sp]now that i'm thinking on it, i wonder how things would have gone down if terminus had killed and cooked beth. could have been better and tainted meat would have a little more depth to it.[/sp]
So I can expect The Walking Dead: The Adventures Of Officers Sheperd, Licari and Tanaka, when exactly?
Can't wait for (comic spoilers) [sp]the Alexandria zombie attack[/sp]. If they do it EXACTLY like the comics it would be one of the best episodes in the series.
[sp] People are talking about Beth's death being sad and stuff, but holy fuck did she deserve it. She literally threatened every single life in that hallway by stabbing Dawn, shit could have popped off and both sides could have exchanged fire resulting in a lot more deaths. Beth's just lucky she was the only one that got shot.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Covalent;46612913][sp] the two of them dying was the stupidest situation possible, I mean Daryl shooting Dawn was expected, but Beth stabbing the officer? That's some seriously stupid shit, and horrible scripting. Despite her 'imprisonment' Beth had no purpose for trying to kill her, and of all things to stab them in the shoulder area? Dumb as fuck.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Exactly my thoughts
[QUOTE=plunger435;46616739][sp] People are talking about Beth's death being sad and stuff, but holy fuck did she deserve it. She literally threatened every single life in that hallway by stabbing Dawn, shit could have popped off and both sides could have exchanged fire resulting in a lot more deaths. Beth's just lucky she was the only one that got shot.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]and they kept switching between Dawn being a villian and friend.[/sp]
I feel like this season has been significantly better than parts of 3/4, but it's still a bit.. wobbly at times.
I dunno, the whole series seems to kind of wax and wane significantly in quality and writing, with occasional an occasional twinkling of emotional acting that redeems the failings a little bit.
[QUOTE=Mabus;46615604]I think there was an interesting subtext to that hallway scene:[/QUOTE]
The only subtext here is women always want more and must have their way.
[sp]I'm joking of course.[/sp]
I'm sure that would've been a great episode if the motherfuckers hadn't spoiled it.
Like seriously, how do these social media marketing teams manage to get out of bed every morning?
Is it me or is the CGI becoming noticeably shit?
I know that AMC have been slashing the budget for the show every season and it doesn't have the financial backing of a Cameron film but it wouldn't hurt to tone down the shitty computer graphics and use timeless practical effects.
[sp]anyone else have a bit of a laugh when the cop asked rick "where are your people", they shoot the oncoming zombie and rick says ".. Their close" with that "don't fuck with me" sarcastic expression[/sp]
I thought it was a little amusing
[QUOTE=Scot;46613893]Legit don't know what's gonna happen now that both terminus and the hospital have been resolved. Find another shady group to get involved with I guess.[/QUOTE]
i honestly wouldn't mind a show that just showed the progression and experience of surviving after all of this shit and said resolved things, just needs really good dialogue, moments and shit
doing logical and meaningful things somehow i don't need another random cannibal crazy group everyone is crazy show feels like an anime in which every block of plot is about the new monster and what their crazy quirk is and how they'll terrorize the group
Just watched the episode.
[sp]Beths death was really underwhelming. On the other hand, I wouldn't have cared much anyway since she always felt like a very secondary character and any other prolonged death would have been a complete waist of air ti-... oh wait, they already did prolong her death. Now that entire hospital arc was for nothing. Great.[/sp]
did anyone really expect [sp]Beth NOT to die?[/sp]
Dawn was so confusing, I never really got if she was good or bad.
[QUOTE=Recurracy;46622460]Dawn was so confusing, I never really got if she was good or bad.[/QUOTE]
A little bit of both I suppose. She didn't really have the right approach to deal with problems, plus she was a little wacky.
I think the point of the last series and a half is there isn't really a thing as good and bad people. Just tough decisions and some that others dislike.
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Like [sp]the shit Rick's done from another perspective? Imagine we weren't even following Rick's group from the start, pretend we were following the hospital group from Series 1. Rick's group came in, broke up the status quo, killed a nice guy pretty fucking horribly for trying to survive, one of them stabbed the leader. They took away people and forever ruined their economic situation.
They're messy, they kill with a crossbow, they're threatening and fierce, they think how they live is better than how the hospital lives. It's all perspective and who you've been with longer.
If the Gov had done what Rick did to Officer Bob it would've been "oooh cruel, that character we loved was just afraid and trying to live". That one episode we spent with Gov and suddenly everybody thought he was a much better guy after it.[/sp]
thats the main thing I like about twd (series and comics), there is no definite sense of good and bad.
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