Star Wars Megathread Episode IV: A New Thread: UNTAGGED SPOILERS? 1 WEEK BAN
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[QUOTE=CyclonatorZ;52944057][sp]Seriously, Dark Rey/Light Kylo theories are always such bullshit. Like they'd actually make the first female Star Wars lead the villain and replace her with yet another angsty white dude. That's franchise suicide at this point.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I think more people prefer the Dark Side over the Light, so I don't think it would ruin anything... would make it only better.[/sp]
[QUOTE=CyclonatorZ;52944057][sp]Seriously, Dark Rey/Light Kylo theories are always such bullshit. Like they'd actually make the first female Star Wars lead the villain and replace her with yet another angsty white dude. That's franchise suicide at this point.[/sp][/QUOTE]
You are the reason a lot of classic seires turn shit nowadays since you want to hamfist extremely poorly written characters as leads for the sake of diversity.
[QUOTE=Dazzgrace;52944676]prequels had a lot of cool stuff that i really think added a ton to the world of star wars[/QUOTE]
I don't know about this. I hear a lot of people praise the art design, but I just don't see it.
I was watching videos about DICE's Battlefront 2, and saw a few cutscenes with both OT ships and PT ships - the prequels ships looked so out of place, it's almost comical. You have these machinery like spaceships that look practical (mostly), that are dirty - it all seems "lived in", like Nostromo. And then you have these egg like super smooth and shiny pieces of gold plastic just kind of being there - it's weird.
The comparison with Alien and Prometheus seems very fitting, it's almost the same story there
My girlfriend is new to Star Wars and we have been seeing the original trilogy the past months preparation for TLJ. Rewatched TFA last night, and I think it hold up very good 2 years later. The flaws are there of course, but it's still a fun and great looking movie. We are both very excited for TLJ.
She loved all of them, but thought Empire Strikes Back was the best of the 4. Couldn't have been prouder.
What did she think about the original film? Every time I watch it, the structure gets less cohesive and editing gets slower. The first act often loses my attention. Once we get to the Death Star, though, then the movie sort of starts for me.
It's one of the reasons I respect The Force Awakens so much. Yeah, it may be a remake of the original film, but it's better than it when it comes to a lot of cinematic qualities.
The protagonist is set up a lot more effectively, for example.
[QUOTE=halfer;52945747]What did she think about the original film? Every time I watch it, the structure gets less cohesive and editing gets slower. The first act often loses my attention. Once we get to the Death Star, though, then the movie sort of starts for me.
It's one of the reasons I respect The Force Awakens so much. Yeah, it may be a remake of the original film, but it's better than it when it comes to a lot of cinematic qualities.
The protagonist is set up a lot more effectively, for example.[/QUOTE]
I find myself agreeing with you. As a kid, the original was the one I liked the least of the OT, and I also think the movie grabs me at the Death Star sequences.
My girlfriend did like it though. To quote her, it was "cute".
She has been a big Indiana Jones fan so I wasn't afraid of her not liking the effects, editing or 70-80's style of the movies, that was probably a plus on her side as well. She enjoyed the characters, especially Ben for some reason, and as previously mentioned she likes Indiana Jones so Han Solo was also a hit.
All in all, Star Wars was not like she expected, but she enjoyed it. She liked how the focus was more on the adventure and good vs. evil, than on science fiction and space and stuff like she expected. One of the reasons why she hadn't seen the movies before.
[QUOTE=halfer;52945747]What did she think about the original film? Every time I watch it, the structure gets less cohesive and editing gets slower. The first act often loses my attention. [b]Once we get to the Death Star, though, then the movie sort of starts for me.[/b]
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I agree, mostly because that part of the film is so incredibly well paced.
Oh shit boys.
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This is your cue to enter full-on hermit mode.
[QUOTE=Blueleaf;52946955]Oh shit boys.
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This is your cue to enter full-on hermit mode.[/QUOTE]
Link me the plot. Can't get spoiled if I spoil myself first .
[editline]5th December 2017[/editline]
Oh it's from 4chan.
[QUOTE=Damjen;52947037]Oh it's from 4chan.[/QUOTE]
Oh so it's bullshit then.
Bastards went and got me paranoid over nothing.
[QUOTE=Blueleaf;52947113]Oh so it's bullshit then.
Bastards went and got me paranoid over nothing.[/QUOTE]
If it isn't pure bollocks, then it's TLJ through what are probably the eyes of a cynical shitlord that hates everything.
[QUOTE=Blueleaf;52946955]Oh shit boys.
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This is your cue to enter full-on hermit mode.[/QUOTE]
apparently this dude made a pastebin leak for The Force Awakens and it was completely false.
Also I just read the leak and it sounds really dumb what the ending is. Doubt they'd put something that stupid in there
Time to stop opening Steam unless I absolutely need it, remember all the group invites 2 years ago?
[QUOTE=halfer;52948026]Time to stop opening Steam unless I absolutely need it, remember all the group invites 2 years ago?[/QUOTE]
steam fixed the group invite thing a few months ago
[url]https://www.neowin.net/news/steam-group-invite-spam-is-going-away-as-valve-overhauls-the-group-system[/url]
[QUOTE=Blueleaf;52948072]
[media]https://www.twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/937957983773798400[/media][/QUOTE]
I catch myself pretty often just thinking about how happy I am that Mark Hamill just exists.
I love the guy. he sounds so nice and just overall appreciative of the fans
[media]https://twitter.com/DaLordzPrince/status/938099036158033920[/media]
Meanwhile Rian Johnson confirms [URL="https://www.cbr.com/rian-johnson-star-wars-trilogy-not-knights-of-the-old-republic/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list"]his all new Star Wars trilogy isn't going to be a remake of KOTOR,[/URL] to the overwhelming surprise of literally no one.
[QUOTE]“Oh, they love Knights of the Old Republic,” Johnson told Mashable during a recent Last Jedi press junket. “I played that game when it first came out and it was like, God, I loved it. Yeah, that’s a fantastic game. And I understand it, the instinct to automatically go to something that you know and love, that you’ve already seen.”
It’s an instinct that Johnson refuses to indulge, however, saying that his trilogy will be something entirely new to the Star Wars canon.
“To me, what’s really fun is the notion of what new stuff are we gonna see, what new stories can we tell?”[/QUOTE]
Cool to hear that he knows of the game and has played it though.
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Though his statement there doesn't mean it won't be set in the past, it just won't be that story.
Also doesn't mean we won't see a film about kotor at some point. Just won't be this trilogy.
I can't see them adapting those games into movies ever.
The era sure.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52949246]I can't see them adapting those games into movies ever.
The era sure.[/QUOTE]
I think it would be much more akin to what we have with this sequel trilogy.
It doesn't follow the books, but it does have the children of the Skywalker family (or, child) battling with good and evil. It's a far cry, but it's still - in essence - the same setting.
I could see them taking the ideas from that era - the characters, the places, the politics - and extrapolating the parts they find interesting and making a story that trims the fat from the game(s) and presenting the essence of what made those stories great.
I think that guy fails to understand the main reason to want TOR as a movie.
It'd make them finally canon.
Sure we could say "oh let's not tell stories that already happened" [i]now[/i] but as far as kotor goes it DIDNT
[editline]5th December 2017[/editline]
The statement reads as if he thinks it's already canon
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;52949681]I think that guy fails to understand the main reason to want TOR as a movie.
It'd make them finally canon.
Sure we could say "oh let's not tell stories that already happened" [i]now[/i] but as far as kotor goes it DIDNT
[editline]5th December 2017[/editline]
The statement reads as if he thinks it's already canon[/QUOTE]
I think you're misunderstanding what he means, and so do the people who want it so it's canon again - you've got the wrong idea about what they're doing and the whole decision for making it all non-canon. It isn't canon for a reason; so they can start again and do their own thing this time. From what i've seen they [I]don't[/I] really just go and make something canon again - they might re-introduce certain aspects, but it'll be in their own way, not in the sense of pretty much how it was before (unless it's something quite insignificant overall). By "lets not tell stories that happened" it just means they don't want to just do the same things again and want to have their own take on everything this time, rather than just saying "we're just sticking this thing back in as it was before" they want to come up with something new. So even if there was a movie, KOTOR wouldn't suddenly be canon. In the same way Thrawn being made canon was the same as creating an entirely new character just somewhat based on Thrawn, It would be an entirely new thing that's just sort of similar to the original in some ways.
There is nothing to suggest it'll be made canon, it seems KOTOR is gone and isn't coming back. What might come back is a setting sort of based on KOTOR in some ways, but it still won't be "KOTOR is canon now!" because that isn't how it works.
Did you watch Rebels?
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Not only that but other things like Clone Wars, its almost infuriating how close its come so many times
I wouldn't say Thrawn is just similar, he is pretty much the same character, even his backstory is the same. Its just the events after he was exiled that are different.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52949932]I wouldn't say Thrawn is just similar, he is pretty much the same character, even his backstory is the same. Its just the events after he was exiled that are different.[/QUOTE]
No.
First of all in this new continuity according to the Thrawn novel [sp]Thrawn wasn't exiled period and was instead sent by the Chiss Ascendancy to infiltrate the Empire to either make it a powerful ally against whatever is lurking into the Unknown Regions of the Galaxy or weak it enouhg to make it a suitable prey for said dark threat and spare the Ascendancy for a time[/sp].
Also, as much as I'm grateful towards Rebels to reintroduce Thrawn into the new canon, his portrayal there can't even [I]begin[/I] to do justice to his Legends counterpart in many, too many ways, which is something I explain with the fact Rebels is first and foremost a kids' show where the heroes are the only ones allowed to appear smart or successfull.
Regarding your whole discussions about The Old Republic being integrated in the new canon someday, I must say that I'm more sceptical than anything, and you know how much that makes me sad
[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;52950717]the heroes are the only ones allowed to appear smart or successfull.[/QUOTE]
Not really though. S3 finale and S4 mid-season finale say otherwise. Maybe he isn't successful in every single step as he is supposed to be from the novels, I wouldn't know I haven't read them, but as somebody who has never seen Thrawn before, he was quite successful in his plans.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;52949907]Did you watch Rebels?
[editline]5th December 2017[/editline]
Not only that but other things like Clone Wars, its almost infuriating how close its come so many times[/QUOTE]
I think you're still misunderstanding it. Canon isn't retroactive, making one thing canon doesn't make everything about it canon again. As an example, Darth Revan nearly appeared in the Clone Wars, as you mentioned - that wouldn't make KOTOR canon under the current new setting. If he had appeared that wouldn't be a case of "Darth Revan is Canon so the KOTOR games are canon!" but "There is a character called Darth Revan who looks like the KOTOR version", it wouldn't actually be the same character.
There's also the example of Delta Squad. Delta Squad exists in canon...they aren't the same as the squad from Republic Commando. They're more like entirely new characters who just have the name/appearance of the ones from the game, the game is still non-canon so we know pretty much [I]nothing[/I] about the canon Delta Squad outside of what was shown in the Clone Wars series.
Making a certain thing canon again doesn't automatically mean anything related to the previous version is canon again unless it's outright stated.
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