Star Wars Megathread Episode IV: A New Thread: UNTAGGED SPOILERS? 1 WEEK BAN
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Why is it called an X-Wing when there is no X in their alphabet
It should be called the Xesh-Wing
[QUOTE=piddlezmcfuz;51614310]Why is it called an X-Wing when there is no X in their alphabet
It should be called the Xesh-Wing[/QUOTE]
Because we're hearing the movies in Earth English.
[QUOTE=piddlezmcfuz;51614310]Why is it called an X-Wing when there is no X in their alphabet
It should be called the Xesh-Wing[/QUOTE]
There is an X in their writing system , just not the main one.
While Aurebesh's alphabet is the primarly used one there is also another writing system, [URL="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/High_Galactic"]High Galactic[/URL]. And High Galactic is just plain old English with its plain old latin based alphabet.
[QUOTE=piddlezmcfuz;51614310]Why is it called an X-Wing when there is no X in their alphabet
It should be called the Xesh-Wing[/QUOTE]
Look at this guy, doesn't even know basic
[img]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/0/0a/Aurebesh_2004.png/revision/latest?cb=20160916135445[/img]
does this mean the death star was a lower-class superweapon, since it was changed from high galactic to basic?
[QUOTE=Pops;51614497][img]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/0/0a/Aurebesh_2004.png/revision/latest?cb=20160916135445[/img]
does this mean the death star was a lower-class superweapon, since it was changed from high galactic to basic?[/QUOTE]
Death Star employed a shitload of people from various parts of the galaxy. Presumably not everyone could read High Galactic.
So, towards the end of The Clone Wars series the Jedi Council discovers the truth about the Clone Army: Sifo-Dyas was just a front for Count Dooku, the true mastermind behind the Army, who also had the former killed in order to cover up the whole thing.
Now, don't get me wrong, I can totally understand that:
1) As Mace Windu, in a rare moment of lucidity, puts it, divulging this information would totally destroy the Republic war effort and the faith of the common folks in the Army and its Jedi leaders
2) The series' writers can get as creative as they like, but there's still a canon to uphold
But you can't tell me that, upon reciving this information, the Jedi Council decides to do [B]ABSOLUTE JACKSHIT ABOUT IT[/B].
And Yoda, as per every scene he's featured in in the series, doesn't help matters either with his useless wise-wannabe attitude, claiming that, since the Clones have "prooven themselves", this is enough reason to overlook the tiny fact [B]THE APPRENTICE OF THE DARK LORD SUPPLIED YOU WITH AN ARMY, AND HE MUST HAD A REASON[/B].
Again, I'm not asking them to decommission the Army altogether, but, for fuck's sake, at the very least watch the Clones more closely from now. Hell, probe them for information, if you are feeling naughty. But [B]DO SOMETHING[/B].
I've seen quite a lot of people say things like "Why would lasers need ammo?" in regards to Battlefront having unlimited ammo for each weapon rather than anything that needs reloading...is that accurate in-universe? I've always thought that blasters needed ammo or power packs. I'm fairly sure that the Clone Wars-era weapons needed ammo as i remember references to it, and other than that the Rogue One Death Troopers have an ammo pack on their shoulders and Wookipedia says the e-11 power pack allows 100 shots. There are plenty of weapons that seem like they have nowhere to insert more powerpacks though, so which is it?
those lasers were tibanna gas iirc
I love star wars but I really hope they delve into more unique topics. Every movie doesn't have to have x wings.
Clone wars / prequels was only decent because of all the new and unique locations and world's you saw.
the old stuff was one of the things i loved about Rogue One - seeing star destroyers and X-wings and the other classic ships blow stuff up with modern effects technology was honey to the eyes
[QUOTE=nightlord;51615131]I've seen quite a lot of people say things like "Why would lasers need ammo?" in regards to Battlefront having unlimited ammo for each weapon rather than anything that needs reloading...is that accurate in-universe? I've always thought that blasters needed ammo or power packs. I'm fairly sure that the Clone Wars-era weapons needed ammo as i remember references to it, and other than that the Rogue One Death Troopers have an ammo pack on their shoulders and Wookipedia says the e-11 power pack allows 100 shots. There are plenty of weapons that seem like they have nowhere to insert more powerpacks though, so which is it?[/QUOTE]
They're not lasers, they're 'blasters'. More like the covenant plasma rifle from halo than star-trek phasers or whatever.
Anyhow. You need gas for plasma. You also need a lot of energy, you need a mass for the bolts.
If I were to guess, I'd wager the powerpacks are re-fillable, but you might get stuck on a long mission, or you might need a spare if yours is damaged or malfunctioned (cause, y'know, sabatage isn't as uncommon as you'd like it to be)
An interesting note. In WW2 german soldiers were set up so that a group would be several riflemen supporting one machinegunner. The riflemen would carry spare ammo for the hungry machinegun, since too much was needed for one machinegunner to carry. I haven't seen R1 yet, but that could be a reason for more ammo pouches on death troopers.
Lastly, maybe some weapons don't use power packs, but rather use one battery per shot. That seems to be what a few laser artillery things use (but then again, a bomb is a bomb)
Personally, I'm interested in the reason for different colour blaster fire. I'm guessing blue is somehow a little better against droids, because it's more often used against them (republic army) whilst yellow is better for armour (because mandolorians have high grade armour, so they'd need it) But what's the difference between red and green? I think I read somewhere that meta-wise, empire used green lasers because soviets used green tracers, but what's the in-universe explanation?
Looking back at the cinematics for SWTOR, I'm kind of glad that those are considered Legends, because despite how wonderful they were to watch, it's almost on par with 2D Clone Wars in terms of god-like super jedi. It doesn't make a ton of sense for jedi to be [I]that[/I] powerful and technology to be [I]that[/I] advanced thousands of years before the films.
In fact, I would love to see a version of Star Wars that takes place during that time where things are much more primitive. It would be neat to explore the origin of Jedi and Sith (at least in canon, cause I'm not sure if that's been covered head-on in Legends already), as well as see more humble beginnings of some of the popular planets and cities.
[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;51615011]So, towards the end of The Clone Wars series the Jedi Council discovers the truth about the Clone Army: Sifo-Dyas was just a front for Count Dooku, the true mastermind behind the Army, who also had the former killed in order to cover up the whole thing.
Now, don't get me wrong, I can totally understand that:
1) As Mace Windu, in a rare moment of lucidity, puts it, divulging this information would totally destroy the Republic war effort and the faith of the common folks in the Army and its Jedi leaders
2) The series' writers can get as creative as they like, but there's still a canon to uphold
But you can't tell me that, upon reciving this information, the Jedi Council decides to do [B]ABSOLUTE JACKSHIT ABOUT IT[/B].
And Yoda, as per every scene he's featured in in the series, doesn't help matters either with his useless wise-wannabe attitude, claiming that, since the Clones have "prooven themselves", this is enough reason to overlook the tiny fact [B]THE APPRENTICE OF THE DARK LORD SUPPLIED YOU WITH AN ARMY, AND HE MUST HAD A REASON[/B].
Again, I'm not asking them to decommission the Army altogether, but, for fuck's sake, at the very least watch the Clones more closely from now. Hell, probe them for information, if you are feeling naughty. But [B]DO SOMETHING[/B].[/QUOTE]
I feel as if they were going to delve more into this but the series ended abruptly. That last season was pretty obviously forced and rushed as an ending.
I thought tech in the galaxy was pretty much at a plateau for thousands of years. Things are only new because a lot of tech is unreliable and wears down over the years.
New models are invented because A: You don't want rivals having precise technical readouts of your stuff (like, I think modern militaries won't give out the thickness of tank armour plates for example) and B: Because capitalism would fall apart if people made tech that was perfect and you'd never need to buy new stuff.
Legends did show the progression of technology, like ancient Lightsaber's used to be connected to a battery pack attached to the waist.
Before KOTOR (not SWTOR, I mean the original games) came a long ships of that era looked completely different.
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You can throw me out an airlock, but I think it would be cool to see a ANH Special edition with FX redone with Rogue One quality.
Like a 1:1 recreation, no new animations or anything. Just good quality CGI.
And obviously give us the option to watch (or buy by itself) the original Non-CG versions as well.
The Star Destroyers and [sp]Tantive IV[/sp] look beautiful in R1.
I can imagine technological improvements happen, but because of the vastness of the galaxy, it takes an incredible amount of time for the new improvement to overtake the old standard.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51609815]I felt as if the trailers showed [sp]how Krennic thought of himself - serious, badass director who lets nothing stop him, where as in reality he is a weak, incompetent, small man[/sp][/QUOTE]
I liked his introduction scene, [sp]where he's wearing a big cape like Vader, except unlike Vader his one is blowing around and flapping all over him like a goofy trash bag. Could be a symbolic character establishing shot, could just be they underestimated the wind that day of shooting.[/sp]
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You can throw me out an airlock, but I think it would be cool to see a ANH Special edition with FX redone with Rogue One quality.
Like a 1:1 recreation, no new animations or anything. Just good quality CGI.
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I've been saying this forever. I know it'll probably never officially happen because so many people will be butthurt similarly to the way they are with the special editions we have now, but I would love to see a remaster of the original effects and CGI.
I think a lot of the stuff in TOR mmo looks too futuristic for it's time period
[QUOTE=Joazzz;51615315]the old stuff was one of the things i loved about Rogue One - seeing star destroyers and X-wings and the other classic ships blow stuff up with modern effects technology was honey to the eyes[/QUOTE]
Seeing the Death Star brought back and given it's true scale is horrifying. You never got the true sense of scale in the OT but not this time. Seeing it blot out suns is awesome.
[QUOTE=Dazzgrace;51615557]I think a lot of the stuff in TOR mmo looks too futuristic for it's time period[/QUOTE]
I'd have to disagree, it is all very bulky.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51615510]I can imagine technological improvements happen, but because of the vastness of the galaxy, it takes an incredible amount of time for the new improvement to overtake the old standard.[/QUOTE]
I think they're in this perpetual sort of re-discovering old tech/reinventing tech/ doing more interesting versions of things that were getting old. Like in rebels you had droid army remnants who malfunctioned and had comparitively terrible shielding. The Millenium falcon (or R2-D2) is always written off as a piece of junk, but the right parts are maintained so it's as fast as anything new. New battle droids aren't neccessarilly better technology, it's just technology better suited for their task/roll. If you discover a sith artifact a few thousand years in age, it'll be about where everything is currently.
Give it more than a few thousand, and you'll have stuff like batery pack lightsabers and even swords. But that's a few thousand. The tech difference between return of the jedi and the phantom menace is non-existent (well, maybe the prequels have better tech, but I don't know if that's intentional or just due to both being products of the age) As far as I know, Old republic stuff isn't even worse than clone wars stuff. You'll have to go more thousands of years before that for any real difference.
could the tech difference between OT and PT be caused by/explained with the Empire? maybe after the takeover they imposed a standard on the market that was somewhere along the lines of "efficient, reliable, sometimes stylish but never fancy" and their habit of making everything sleek but angular and brutalist eliminated most of the Trade Federation-style flowing, round shapes. most of the tech we see in the OT is either imperial or salvaged and retrofitted from rugged civilian stuff anyway.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;51615981]could the tech difference between OT and PT be caused by/explained with the Empire? maybe after the takeover they imposed a standard on the market that was somewhere along the lines of "efficient, reliable, sometimes stylish but never fancy" and their habit of making everything sleek but angular and brutalist eliminated most of the Trade Federation-style flowing, round shapes. most of the tech we see in the OT is either imperial or salvaged and retrofitted from rugged civilian stuff anyway.[/QUOTE]
Well the ship production mantra of the republic before the clone wars was completely different than the empire's.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;51615981]could the tech difference between OT and PT be caused by/explained with the Empire? maybe after the takeover they imposed a standard on the market that was somewhere along the lines of "efficient, reliable, sometimes stylish but never fancy" and their habit of making everything sleek but angular and brutalist eliminated most of the Trade Federation-style flowing, round shapes. most of the tech we see in the OT is either imperial or salvaged and retrofitted from rugged civilian stuff anyway.[/QUOTE]
I always rather attributed to the Clone Wars utterly ravaging the galaxy, both economically and industrially, leading to visible decline, and the Empire doing nothing to rectify that, if not even making it worse.
a fair point, plus a stagnated tech level would be easier for galactic tyrants to control while hoarding all the planet-destroying supertoys for themselves
[QUOTE=usaokay;51615717]I still have a hard time believing SWTOR and KOTOR take place thousands of years before the films and its interwoven EU/Legends stories.
Also kinda dislike how SWTOR was aiming to be a bit more like the films with its gaudy references, which I get since they wanted the core audience.[/QUOTE]
Kotor 1 and 2 made sense but SWTOR is all kinds of retarded and awful
[QUOTE=Tuskin;51615419]Legends did show the progression of technology, like ancient Lightsaber's used to be connected to a battery pack attached to the waist.
Before KOTOR (not SWTOR, I mean the original games) came a long ships of that era looked completely different.
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You can throw me out an airlock, but I think it would be cool to see a ANH Special edition with FX redone with Rogue One quality.
Like a 1:1 recreation, no new animations or anything. Just good quality CGI.
And obviously give us the option to watch (or buy by itself) the original Non-CG versions as well.
The Star Destroyers and [sp]Tantive IV[/sp] look beautiful in R1.[/QUOTE]
i prefer the blaster sounds from ANH though (especially the E-11 blaster sound, I love the way it sounds in ANH)
in fact almost all the sound effects from ANH are better than Rogue One
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