Star Wars Megathread Episode IV: A New Thread: UNTAGGED SPOILERS? 1 WEEK BAN - Film, Television and Music

[sp]I'm starting to think they demoted Finn from technical officer to grunt because he couldn't keep his mouth shut[/sp]

The more interviews I read from Rian Johnson the less I respect him as a director. In nearly all of them he keeps claiming that scenes where the characters actually stop for some seconds and talk about which course of action would be best and/or take time to explain the main story elements to the audience are "boring" and "just slow a movie down", so we are all better off without them. It explains a lot about The Last Jedi, actually

[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;53008526]The more interviews I read from Rian Johnson the less I respect him as a director. In nearly all of them he keeps claiming that scenes where the characters actually stop for some seconds and talk about which course of action would be best and/or take time to explain the main story elements to the audience are "boring" and "just slow a movie down", so we are all better off without them. It explains a lot about The Last Jedi, actually[/QUOTE] Can't wait to see what his non-episode trilogy is like...

Rogue one is on Netflix and I havent watched a single movie from this Franchise.. is it worth it? Im a lord of the rings kinda gal

[QUOTE=HookerVomit;53008723]Rogue one is on Netflix and I havent watched a single movie from this Franchise.. is it worth it? Im a lord of the rings kinda gal[/QUOTE] Rogue One is an incredibly solid addition to the original trilogy but it's really best to watch the movies in the order they came out to get all the payoffs and cameos in Rogue.

[QUOTE=HookerVomit;53008723]Rogue one is on Netflix and I havent watched a single movie from this Franchise.. is it worth it? Im a lord of the rings kinda gal[/QUOTE] At least watch the OT A New Hope before watching Rogue One, because a lot of Rogue One heavily depends on you knowing what happens in ANH, context wise. It's possible to watch it and fully enjoy it without, but you'll miss a lot of context to everything.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;53008720]Can't wait to see what his non-episode trilogy is like...[/QUOTE] Wait a second, is he the same guy they got on board to produce that entirely new trilogy everyone is talking about? [B]FUCK[/B].

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;53008756]At least watch the OT A New Hope before watching Rogue One, because a lot of Rogue One heavily depends on you knowing what happens in ANH, context wise. It's possible to watch it and fully enjoy it without, but you'll miss a lot of context to everything.[/QUOTE] my best friend is a star wars girl but she said she hated the new star wars movie so im just like :/ should i even.. but I guess Ill just watch the 2.

[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;53009006]Wait a second, is he the same guy they got on board to produce that entirely new trilogy everyone is talking about?[/QUOTE] Yeah, it's going to be amazing because of it. The new trilogy is meant to be 100% new, so he's going to have more freedom then with EP8, no constraints.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;53009034]Yeah, it's going to be amazing because of it. The new trilogy is meant to be 100% new, so he's going to have more freedom then with EP8, no constraints.[/QUOTE] Tuskin, you know I respect you and all, but. This man has just produced a, with all the benevolance I'm capable of, [I]very divisive[/I] new entry in what I can only assume to be your favorite franchise. Therefore are you so eager to see this man steer what will be considered the "main" canon and the general opinion of Star Wars for the years to come?

[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;53009095]Tuskin, you know I respect you and all, but. This man has just produced a, with all the benevolance I'm capable of, [I]very divisive[/I] new entry in what I can only assume to be your favorite franchise. Therefore are you so eager to see this man steer what will be considered the "main" canon and the general opinion of Star Wars for the years to come?[/QUOTE] Yes, because it isn't part of the main story. Also I liked TLJ. [editline]27th December 2017[/editline] The problems people have with TLJ seem to mostly centre around known aspects of the lore. The new trilogy is said to be all brand new, exploring what hasn't been explored before in the Star Wars universe. So if it is new, then it probably won't harm what isn't new.

[sp]As long as it doesn't have an hour of padding it should be good.[/sp]

Alfie Curtis, the guy who played Dr. Evazan in a New Hope died today [url]https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5218921/alfie-curtis-dead-star-wars-dr-evazan-actor-age-87-cantina-scene/[/url]

You know, people shit on the T-70 for looking too much like the T-65, but the EU was worse, they didn't even have anything past the T-65, just variants or upgrades. [url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/X-wing_starfighter/Legends[/url] [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/OCMKsF3.jpg[/IMG] That is what the EU had 36 years after Yavin Lore was the T-70 isn't even new, it's almost 30 years old.

[QUOTE=HookerVomit;53009023]my best friend is a star wars girl but she said she hated the new star wars movie so im just like :/ should i even.. but I guess Ill just watch the 2.[/QUOTE] Eh, if you enjoy them you might as well try The Last Jedi and make your own verdict. If you're going to watch the original trilogy try to find original versions, or at least the despecialised edits, so you don't have to endure pain like [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jzZOgLH4KU]this.[/url]

[QUOTE=Tuskin;53009902]You know, people shit on the T-70 for looking too much like the T-65, but the EU was worse, they didn't even have anything past the T-65, just variants or upgrades. [url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/X-wing_starfighter/Legends[/url] [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/OCMKsF3.jpg[/IMG] That is what the EU had 36 years after Yavin Lore was the T-70 isn't even new, it's almost 30 years old.[/QUOTE] There were other ships that were supposed to be hot shit, like the E-Wing. They just all turned out to not be as a good an all around fighter as the X-Wing, so later in the timeline they worked up a new upgraded model. Probably could've used a little bit of a visual redesign, though, like the 70.

Yeah, they had other craft, the E-Wing was pretty cool. I was just commenting on the X-Wing design changes, the resistance is really lacking in ships.

#BringBackB-Wing And TIE Interceptors and TIE Bombers

[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;53009095]Tuskin, you know I respect you and all, but. This man has just produced a, with all the benevolance I'm capable of, [I]very divisive[/I] new entry in what I can only h to be your favorite franchise. Therefore are you so eager to see this man steer what will be considered the "main" canon and the general opinion of Star Wars for the years to come?[/QUOTE] I honestly like how divisive it is. I have my issues with it, as I'm sure everyone else does, but I feel like Rian excels when he has his own story to tell, so I'm open to see a trilogy (or at least the first in a trilogy) directed by him.

I think a love-or-hate movie is a better outcome then just a bland one, presonally

[QUOTE=PaChIrA;53010262]#BringBackB-Wing And TIE Interceptors and TIE Bombers[/QUOTE] There were TIE Bombers on a Crait poster at Toys R US, I guess it was concept art or something.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;53011162]There were TIE Bombers on a Crait poster at Toys R US, I guess it was concept art or something.[/QUOTE] Could be they were just cut with much of Last Jedi. Doubt we've seen everything at the First Order's disposal.

[QUOTE=overwatch pvt;53011220]Could be they were just cut with much of Last Jedi. Doubt we've seen everything at the First Order's disposal.[/QUOTE] they didn't show up in any of the trailers either, just that poster.

I've been thinking way too much about the use of hyperspace in the new movies. [sp]I love Holdo's hyperspace ram in TLJ, but I will admit it opens a can of worms. It's not alone, however.[/sp]For some reason, the new movies have been playing with hyperspace as the new source of action twists. In TFA we have both hyperspacing out of a ship's hold, and hyperspacing through a planetary shield into an atmosphere. In Rogue One, we have a ship hyperspacing out of the debris-filled atmosphere of an exploding planet.[sp]And of course, TLJ has FTL ramming.[/sp]I'm not sure all of these examples add up together. It bears mentioning that most of these would've been impossible in the old EU unless you severely violated the manufacturers licensing agreement of your ship. In universe, there were safeguards including cutting the hyperdrive in the presence of planetary mass shadows, and out of universe, most of the EU's rules were created by West End Games for use in their tabletop RPG, most of the point of which is to lay down rules for living in a setting. Of course, the ships committing these sins are all rebel ships in general and often the Millennium Falcon in specific, so I do find it believable that they might've made some modifications that void the warranty. The problems with hyperspace and cans of worms is that the things they've done may make sense, but kind of veer uncomfortably into the kind of real-world physics that Star Wars has to try to ignore. What do I mean by that? Realistically, any FTL ship is a weapon of mass destruction if pointed in the right direction. Throwing a soda bottle out the window at lightspeed could create a weapon more powerful than the Death Star. If you've got a capital ship with a tractor beam and an asteroid field, you've got full magazine of apocalypse ammo. Our only real explanation for why this doesn't happen is cultural. It's drilled into captains in flight school that this is not a thing that's done. And to be fair, in most of the movies we have so far, we mostly just have the Republic/Empire who don't need to do that kind of thing, and the Rebels who think of themselves as the good guys too much to do it (I don't know what all Saw Guerrara got up to. Maybe is that kind of jerk.) But in a universe with 30,000 years under it's belt and Sith, I don't know if that's enough. Maybe it does happen from time to time, to catastrophic results, and the galaxy as a whole remembers Why We Don't Do That. The other explanation is that it has something to do with[sp]the FO's hyperspace tracking method, which means that this particular hyperspace ramming is the only one that could've happened.[/sp]Unfortunately, that's fanwank at the present, but would've been an excellent addition to TLJ that would've at least cleared it up a little. As is, I see no reason while Episode IX won't have Kylo Ren fielding swarms of hyperdrive-equipped suicide TIEs and why the Millennium Falcon won't just hyperspace into the hangar bay of the FOs ships, drop a bomp, and hyperspace back out.

Regardless of how they look, I've always felt like aliens in Star Wars almost always fall into 2 groups, comedy relief or to look adorable, sometimes both. I mean, I know the extended material explores aliens more but the films have ALWAYS heavily neglected them. We have Maul, Chewie and I guess Snoke but that's about it for cool alien characters that don't fall into either of those groups and the last 2 could easily be humans and nothing would change. edit: I FUCKING FORGOT YODA. Kill me. Still, my point still stands.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;53011437]Regardless of how they look, I've always felt like aliens in Star Wars almost always fall into 2 groups, comedy relief or to look adorable, sometimes both. I mean, I know the extended material explores aliens more but the films have ALWAYS heavily neglected them. We have Maul, Chewie and I guess Snoke but that's about it for cool alien characters that don't fall into either of those groups and the last 2 could easily be humans and nothing would change. edit: I FUCKING FORGOT YODA. Kill me. Still, my point still stands.[/QUOTE] We've had a fair few Twi'leks in secondary character positions in games and EU stuff. Mission in KOTOR springs to mind. Generally there's no reason why they shouldn't be, a lot of the aliens in clone wars were fine. Kit Fisto was a pretty dope character.

[QUOTE=Fort83;53011419]Saw this post on reddit, it shows the huge difference between the designs of the aliens in the prequel and sequel trilogies. Honestly the sequels fall short on making memorable and interesting looking aliens and it's a shame they don't want to use any existing aliens aside from the established character ones [img_thumb]https://i.redd.it/dcp00ezbfj601.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I can’t help but notice that all of the new sequel races seem to have wide facial features of some kind. That’s pretty bland, honestly.

I think a big part of that is because they're all puppets right?

it's because george lucas is unironically a creative genius. they should have had him on board in some capacity for the ST tbh, because he IS star wars

George didn't personally design every alien.