Star Wars Megathread Episode IV: A New Thread: UNTAGGED SPOILERS? 1 WEEK BAN - Film, Television and Music

[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;53011601]it's because george lucas is unironically a creative genius. they should have had him on board in some capacity for the ST tbh, because he IS star wars[/QUOTE] for every good alien in the prequels theres like 2 dumb ones

[QUOTE=Fort83;53011419]Saw this post on reddit, it shows the huge difference between the designs of the aliens in the prequel and sequel trilogies. Honestly the sequels fall short on making memorable and interesting looking aliens and it's a shame they don't want to use any existing aliens aside from the established character ones[/QUOTE] While that picture shows more variety among the prequels, variety isn't automatically a good thing when you're counting the likes of Jar Jar, Dexter Jettster, Watto, Sebulba and that weird two-headed Benedict Cumberbatch. The sequel designs are less adventurous but at least none of them are horrible. [editline]28th December 2017[/editline] I have a feeling that whoever made the above pic left out some races to try and make a point, but you can see a few more in this group shot alone. The red guy deserves a special mention because his design is really cool. [t]https://i.imgur.com/VQLs9wE.jpg[/t][t]https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/5/53/Sidon_Ithano_CT.png/revision/latest?cb=20160117193518[/t]

Red guy and his fat buddy spin-off, when. I just wish we'd get more aliens who are actual characters. Even if it's simple aliens like chiss, twi'lek, or zabrak. For a major sci-fi series, Star Wars lacks major alien protagonists/antagonists.

[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;53011614]for every good alien in the prequels theres like 2 dumb ones[/QUOTE] at least they're memorable, i cant tell you any memorable new aliens from the ST apart from porgs.

[QUOTE=Fort83;53011691]I could've sworn we've seen him somewhere else before.[/QUOTE] He's been in a few comics and books. [url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sidon_Ithano[/url]

[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;53011676]Red guy and his fat buddy spin-off, when. I just wish we'd get more aliens who are actual characters. Even if it's simple aliens like chiss, twi'lek, or zabrak. For a major sci-fi series, Star Wars lacks major alien protagonists/antagonists.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure they already did a novel about them

[QUOTE=Tuskin;53011694]He's been in a few comics and books. [url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sidon_Ithano[/url][/QUOTE] That article features another picture of some of the creeps and weirdos in Maz's hideout. [t]http://images.vanityfair.it/gallery/33735/Big/a551f12f-b874-4c19-a2b1-1a8561dcafb8.jpg[/t] I like the guy alllll the way on the far left with the big turtleneck. He's cool.

[QUOTE=New Cidem;53011711]That article features another picture of some of the creeps and weirdos in Maz's hideout. [t]http://images.vanityfair.it/gallery/33735/Big/a551f12f-b874-4c19-a2b1-1a8561dcafb8.jpg[/t] I like the guy alllll the way on the far left with the big turtleneck. He's cool.[/QUOTE] Is that a guy with a TIE pilot helmet standing behind the Corsair?

Why didn't they [sp] use the support ships to jump light speed into the imperial fleet? They could've gotten out like 3 attacks that way. [/sp]

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;53011781]Why didn't they [sp] use the support ships to jump light speed into the imperial fleet? They could've gotten out like 3 attacks that way. [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]It was a last ditch effort, not a strategy[/sp]

[QUOTE=Pax;53011370]I've been thinking way too much about the use of hyperspace in the new movies. [sp]I love Holdo's hyperspace ram in TLJ, but I will admit it opens a can of worms. It's not alone, however.[/sp]For some reason, the new movies have been playing with hyperspace as the new source of action twists. In TFA we have both hyperspacing out of a ship's hold, and hyperspacing through a planetary shield into an atmosphere. In Rogue One, we have a ship hyperspacing out of the debris-filled atmosphere of an exploding planet.[sp]And of course, TLJ has FTL ramming.[/sp]I'm not sure all of these examples add up together. It bears mentioning that most of these would've been impossible in the old EU unless you severely violated the manufacturers licensing agreement of your ship. In universe, there were safeguards including cutting the hyperdrive in the presence of planetary mass shadows, and out of universe, most of the EU's rules were created by West End Games for use in their tabletop RPG, most of the point of which is to lay down rules for living in a setting. Of course, the ships committing these sins are all rebel ships in general and often the Millennium Falcon in specific, so I do find it believable that they might've made some modifications that void the warranty. The problems with hyperspace and cans of worms is that the things they've done may make sense, but kind of veer uncomfortably into the kind of real-world physics that Star Wars has to try to ignore. What do I mean by that? Realistically, any FTL ship is a weapon of mass destruction if pointed in the right direction. Throwing a soda bottle out the window at lightspeed could create a weapon more powerful than the Death Star. If you've got a capital ship with a tractor beam and an asteroid field, you've got full magazine of apocalypse ammo. Our only real explanation for why this doesn't happen is cultural. It's drilled into captains in flight school that this is not a thing that's done. And to be fair, in most of the movies we have so far, we mostly just have the Republic/Empire who don't need to do that kind of thing, and the Rebels who think of themselves as the good guys too much to do it (I don't know what all Saw Guerrara got up to. Maybe is that kind of jerk.) But in a universe with 30,000 years under it's belt and Sith, I don't know if that's enough. Maybe it does happen from time to time, to catastrophic results, and the galaxy as a whole remembers Why We Don't Do That. The other explanation is that it has something to do with[sp]the FO's hyperspace tracking method, which means that this particular hyperspace ramming is the only one that could've happened.[/sp]Unfortunately, that's fanwank at the present, but would've been an excellent addition to TLJ that would've at least cleared it up a little. As is, I see no reason while Episode IX won't have Kylo Ren fielding swarms of hyperdrive-equipped suicide TIEs and why the Millennium Falcon won't just hyperspace into the hangar bay of the FOs ships, drop a bomp, and hyperspace back out.[/QUOTE] [sp]I wouldn't be surprised if this new trilogy will be about creatures from another dimension immune to the Force coming through a rip in spacetime because of that trick. Recanonized Yuuzhan Vong?[/sp]

I hope not, that's a horrible idea.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;53011793][sp]It was a last ditch effort, not a strategy[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]If you're gonna lose the ships anyways, it's just a waste not to.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;53011781]Why didn't they [sp] use the support ships to jump light speed into the imperial fleet? They could've gotten out like 3 attacks that way. [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Did those ships have enough fuel for a jump? I thought the whole point was that they were abandoned when they'd been evacuated and siphoned but maybe I just assumed that.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Tuskin;53011750]Is that a guy with a TIE pilot helmet standing behind the Corsair?[/QUOTE] Looks like an original trilogy-era pilot helmet with some added decals. Antique helmet some pirate found? Cool to think there might be some space smugglers out there wearing last-generation piece meal imperial armor.

[QUOTE=Fort83;53011419]Saw this post on reddit, it shows the huge difference between the designs of the aliens in the prequel and sequel trilogies. Honestly the sequels fall short on making memorable and interesting looking aliens and it's a shame they don't want to use any existing aliens aside from the established character ones [img_thumb]https://i.redd.it/dcp00ezbfj601.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Glad to see Dexter Jettster of the [I]Dex's Diner[/I] fame in this picure

[QUOTE=halfer;53012131]Glad to see Dexter Jettster of the [I]Dex's Diner[/I] fame in this picure[/QUOTE] Is this sarcasm? He was a good friend.

[QUOTE=DinoJesus;53012134]Is this sarcasm? He was a good friend.[/QUOTE] It was sarcasm, yes. Was he expanded in the EU or something?

[QUOTE=halfer;53012139]It was sarcasm, yes. Was he expanded in the EU or something?[/QUOTE] No, he just doesn't really deserve the shit people give him. I mean George had a race of bug eyed space chinks and another of fat flying Jews, and yet everyone overlooks those designs in favor of picking on the nice fat dude running a diner. Don't tell me you wouldn't want to try one of his malt shakes. Dexter is total bro tier.

Speaking of Crimson Corsair If you guys ever read the novels/comics about him Basically [sp]He found's a separatist ship that crashed containing a clone trooper in stasis from the Clone Wars, and it's the Clone Trooper Kix who if you guys watched the Clone Wars show, found about the Bio-Chips pertaining to Order 66 etc.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Fort83;53011419]Saw this post on reddit, it shows the huge difference between the designs of the aliens in the prequel and sequel trilogies. Honestly the sequels fall short on making memorable and interesting looking aliens and it's a shame they don't want to use any existing aliens aside from the established character ones [img_thumb]https://i.redd.it/dcp00ezbfj601.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Honestly I wish Rey or at least more of the resistance characters were aliens in the sequels. I think it'd be more interesting for the resistance to be a melting pot of the galaxy in shots instead of mostly humans with a couple of aliens. I think it'd be nice if there were more Star Wars stories that followed alien characters as I think there can be a greater variety in terms of circumstances.

[QUOTE=squids_eye;53011957][sp]Did those ships have enough fuel for a jump? I thought the whole point was that they were abandoned when they'd been evacuated and siphoned but maybe I just assumed that.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]The whole reason they didn't keep jumping is that they had enough fuel for one more jump and they were being tracked anyways. One assumes that the fuel for jumping is different than the fuel for the impulse thrusters because otherwise the plan to delay the evacuation in order to try to disengage the tracker wouldnt make sense. I suppose you could make the argument that if they had jump fuel they would have jumped away in an attempt to scatter the fleet.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Tuskin;53011162]There were TIE Bombers on a Crait poster at Toys R US, I guess it was concept art or something.[/QUOTE] Wasn’t one of the holograms [sp]DJ showed off in the ship[/sp] a TIE bomber? I could have sworn it was one and not Darth Vader’s ship. [editline]29th December 2017[/editline] Speaking of which, was anyone else kind of bothered Snap Wexley wasn’t in TLJ, considering he’s kind of the new Wedge?

[QUOTE=The_J_Hat;53012296]Wasn’t one of the holograms [sp]DJ showed off in the ship[/sp] a TIE bomber? I could have sworn it was one and not Darth Vader’s ship. [/QUOTE] [sp]Oh I think it was.[/sp]

I hated that the message in Last Jedi was [sp] Blindly follow the rules, no matter what. [/sp]

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;53012473]I hated that the message in Last Jedi was [sp] Blindly follow the rules, no matter what. [/sp][/QUOTE] I mean that's par for the course when you're under the leadership of [SP]Vice Admiral Gender Studies.[/SP]

[QUOTE=RoboChimp;53012473]I hated that the message in Last Jedi was [sp] Blindly follow the rules, no matter what. [/sp][/QUOTE] That isn't the message, [sp]Rey constantly ignored Luke's authority and everything turned out fine for her.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;53009926]Eh, if you enjoy them you might as well try The Last Jedi and make your own verdict. If you're going to watch the original trilogy try to find original versions, or at least the despecialised edits, so you don't have to endure pain like [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jzZOgLH4KU]this.[/url][/QUOTE] What kind of Jim Henson, dark crystal hell is this...

[QUOTE=DinoJesus;53012530]I mean that's par for the course when you're under the leadership of [SP]Vice Admiral Gender Studies.[/SP][/QUOTE] im so sick of this joke lmao

[video=youtube;-HmWDdmTAE8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HmWDdmTAE8[/video] I dislike this scene, not because of the base or CG, but they killed off the entire republic when not much is known except maybe comics or novels. Like GODDAMMIT THEY COULD HAD EXPLORED MORE BUT NOOOO YOU HAD TO BLOW THEM UP