Star Wars Megathread Episode IV: A New Thread: UNTAGGED SPOILERS? 1 WEEK BAN - Film, Television and Music

[QUOTE=Tuskin;51627298]Rogue One wasn't delayed. Episode 8 was delayed from May to December next year.[/QUOTE] Oh, I got them mixed up

I'm betting the Han Solo film will follow him and Lando through the Kessel Run and running into challenges throughout the journey. Like, Hidalgo in space or any racing flick.

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;51627038]I wanna see a han/lando buddy cop style thing where it either starts or ends with the card game Han won the falcon with. Throw in a silly plot idea like "we gotta get the thing to those people because ~money~" and it just goes fuck all sideways or some shit.[/QUOTE] Smokey and the Bandit: A Star Wars Story?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51627263]Well Lucas' mind is dumb. To me, Han Solo is too much an independent, "me first" person, especially prior to the OT. That doesn't make sense to develop that from a mentor because a mentor/apprentice usually have a work-together attitude that just doesn't sit well with the character in my eyes.[/QUOTE] I always got a sort of "Ran away from home" vibe from him

[QUOTE=RedBaronFlyer;51627660]I always got a sort of "Ran away from home" vibe from him[/QUOTE] That kind of was his story.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51627263]Well Lucas' mind is dumb. To me, Han Solo is too much an independent, "me first" person, especially prior to the OT. That doesn't make sense to develop that from a mentor because a mentor/apprentice usually have a work-together attitude that just doesn't sit well with the character in my eyes.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between mentor and master/apprentice. It's not necessarily somebody that taught Han his ways, but was a role model or guiding force in his youth. I think of Yondu and Starlord in Guardians. [editline]5th January 2017[/editline] Even as a selfish me-first person somebody had to teach him to fly a ship and fire a blaster at some point.

[video=youtube;LfeFlI-GQGQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfeFlI-GQGQ[/video]

I'm going to be disappointed if they show the Kessel Run in the Han Solo movie.

[QUOTE=Mr._N;51629395]I'm going to be disappointed if they show the Kessel Run in the Han Solo movie.[/QUOTE] Is it true that Kessel is a planet now instead of a massive spice mining prison in an asteroid field? Ok turns out it did get changed: [url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kessel[/url] Why did it get turned into a planet again? Kinda makes the whole "made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs" comment rather stupid in my opinion "Oh yea, I flew past a planet in less than twelve parsecs whoooooooop!" unless I'm missing something that is

I'll be fine with the Run being shown if they do it justice.

I thought it was a heavily guarded hyperspace lane or something like that, and it ran from one end of the galaxy right through to the around the core worlds and it was popular for smuggling illegal shit from the outer rim to the core worlds?

So I had this discussion with a friend about a year ago and seeing this thread pop up on General reminded me of it and I wanted to ask everyone's opinions. Ever since playing KoTOR 2 I've become convinced that the sides of the force do not guarantee whether the individual will become into a compassionate monk or an evil dick. While they do 99% of the time, it is possible to be and even stay as a benevolent Dark Side force user, if they possess enough discipline and have a strong principles that keep them that way. Same way with the Light Side, where the user can become into an emotionless, cold and calculating psychopath, achieving peace and ignoring all else around them. What're your thoughts on this?

[QUOTE=RedBaronFlyer;51629431] Why did it get turned into a planet again? Kinda makes the whole "made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs" comment rather stupid in my opinion "Oh yea, I flew past a planet in less than twelve parsecs whoooooooop!" unless I'm missing something that is[/QUOTE] It is a planet now because George said it was a planet. He always considered it a planet. The run was probably named after the planet or sector.

[QUOTE=GlebGuy;51629457]So I had this discussion with a friend about a year ago and seeing this thread pop up on General reminded me of it and I wanted to ask everyone's opinions. Ever since playing KoTOR 2 I've become convinced that the sides of the force do not guarantee whether the individual will become into a compassionate monk or an evil dick. While they do 99% of the time, it is possible to be and even stay as a benevolent Dark Side force user, if they possess enough discipline and have a strong principles that keep them that way. Same way with the Light Side, where the user can become into an emotionless, cold and calculating psychopath, achieving peace and ignoring all else around them. What're your thoughts on this?[/QUOTE] That's pretty much where the Grey Jedi come in, I'd say.

Even SWTOR shows this if you go light side as an Inquistor.

[QUOTE=GlebGuy;51629457]So I had this discussion with a friend about a year ago and seeing this thread pop up on General reminded me of it and I wanted to ask everyone's opinions. Ever since playing KoTOR 2 I've become convinced that the sides of the force do not guarantee whether the individual will become into a compassionate monk or an evil dick. While they do 99% of the time, it is possible to be and even stay as a benevolent Dark Side force user, if they possess enough discipline and have a strong principles that keep them that way. [b] Same way with the Light Side, where the user can become into an emotionless, cold and calculating psychopath, achieving peace and ignoring all else around them. [/b] What're your thoughts on this?[/QUOTE] [t] http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/4387/561803-136041mace_20windu.jpg [/t] Is who comes to mind here.

I read that the Mon Calamari Capital ships are now just pieces of their cities they decided to turn into ships because they didn't wanna stick around and face the Empire...I'm not sure if that is cool or just absurdly silly.

[QUOTE=nightlord;51629613]I read that the Mon Calamari Capital ships are now just pieces of their cities they decided to turn into ships because they didn't wanna stick around and face the Empire...I'm not sure if that is cool or just absurdly silly.[/QUOTE] You read wrong. The capital ships were mistook for cities by the Empire while they were being made.

[QUOTE=RedBaronFlyer;51627660]I always got a sort of "Ran away from home" vibe from him[/QUOTE] Han kind of struck me more as someone who grew up on the streets and robbed people.

[QUOTE=Damjen;51629635]You read wrong. The capital ships were mistook for cities by the Empire while they were being made.[/QUOTE] Really? It seems what i read might have been wrong then. Apparently it's in Rogue One visual guide. [quote]Preparing for the worst with the rise of the Empire, several Mon Calamari cities jettisoned buildings into deep space, that had actually been converted into transports containing thousands of Mon Calamari refugees. Hidden away from the Imperials, the Mon Calamari re-tweaked the transport-buildings into armed capital ships[/quote] [url]http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-major-and-most-messed-up-revelations-from-the-off-1790711310[/url] Is that wrong?

Wasn't Admiral Raddus' ship a town hall?

[QUOTE=nightlord;51629672]Really? It seems what i read might have been wrong then. Apparently it's in Rogue One visual guide. [url]http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-major-and-most-messed-up-revelations-from-the-off-1790711310[/url] Is that wrong?[/QUOTE] Yes. Yes it is. Stop trusting (former) Gawker sites.

I always thought the Mon Calamari ships were repurposed Luxury Liners

[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;51629717]I always thought the Mon Calamari ships were repurposed Luxury Liners[/QUOTE] Some still are iirc

[QUOTE=Tuskin;51629718]It isn't wrong I have the book [editline]5th January 2017[/editline] Some still are IIRC[/QUOTE] They were always meant to be spaceworthy. They didn't just build cities and strapped engines on them. They built spaceships that could pass as cities while docked underwater.

If you watch the Mon Cala episodes of clone wars you can see why the empire was mistaken [editline]5th January 2017[/editline] [t]http://i.imgur.com/9WFP9fy.jpg[/t] [editline]5th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr._N;51629691]Wasn't Admiral Raddus' ship a town hall?[/QUOTE] It was both

People keep misinterpeting the whole thing as Mon Calamari just remaking their cities into spaceships. They built spaceships that served as cities so in case of Empire deciding to just wipe them out they could up and leave before that happens. Then they went all in and decided to use them in service of the Rebel Alliance.

idk about you but the idea of city ships sounds vaguely 40k to me.

[QUOTE=RedBaronFlyer;51629431]Is it true that Kessel is a planet now instead of a massive spice mining prison in an asteroid field? Ok turns out it did get changed: [url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kessel[/url] Why did it get turned into a planet again? Kinda makes the whole "made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs" comment rather stupid in my opinion "Oh yea, I flew past a planet in less than twelve parsecs whoooooooop!" unless I'm missing something that is[/QUOTE] [url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kessel_Run[/url] Literally in a canonical sense he did it the fastest and at the same time discovered a way to cover it in less distance than the other people. It's like the only trail blazers finding a way to get a round a mountain but faster and short distance tahn the most traveled route.

[QUOTE=GlebGuy;51629457]So I had this discussion with a friend about a year ago and seeing this thread pop up on General reminded me of it and I wanted to ask everyone's opinions. Ever since playing KoTOR 2 I've become convinced that the sides of the force do not guarantee whether the individual will become into a compassionate monk or an evil dick. While they do 99% of the time, it is possible to be and even stay as a benevolent Dark Side force user, if they possess enough discipline and have a strong principles that keep them that way. Same way with the Light Side, where the user can become into an emotionless, cold and calculating psychopath, achieving peace and ignoring all else around them. What're your thoughts on this?[/QUOTE] What you are describing in your post is the main plot point of The Sith Lords, as you noted yourself, and the game goes even beyond that, to the point of being a deconstruction: for the normal people living in the galaxy, the Jedi and the Sith are just the two faces of the same, religious coin and the constant struggle between the supposed Light and the supposed Darkness always leave misery and destruction in its wake (to the point that the main antagonist of the game ultimately wants to [sp]"kill" the Force altogether and, supposedly, free sentient beings from its "manipulations"[/sp]). Note however that The Sith Lords is basically a huge deconstruction of the average sense of morality running through the whole Star Wars saga, especially Lucas', whose sense of morality can be best described as a fucking zebra. Some people hate such deconstruction fiction (which is Chris Avellone's, TSL's main writer, bread and butter), while others, such as myself, prefer this approach to the whole "Good vs Evil" angle in the saga (to the point I hate the main movies, tolerate the animated series and love everything else about Star Wars, especially the videogames)