Star Wars Megathread Episode IV: A New Thread: UNTAGGED SPOILERS? 1 WEEK BAN - Film, Television and Music

[QUOTE=revan740;51646893]A large part of the prequel films were shot with miniature scale sets and models. Episode 1 is by far the best looking of the three, though, because you can tell that a lot of it has real props being destroyed and manipulated. The ship in the beginning blowing up is a mini, the door Qui-gon cuts is really getting burned, those huge drop ships are minis, a huge part of Boonta Eve was a miniature set. It's a shame everyone defames the prequels without looking into it. The movie is beautiful, just not the best plot or acting. Here's a good place to see some more. The official behind the scenes shows very little. [URL="http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-prequels-miniatures/"]http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-prequels-miniatures/[/URL][/QUOTE] The crowd in the stands for the pod racing scenes were actually just q-tips of various colors, which was thought up by Adam Savage.

btw guys i solved the whole snoke thing last night snoke is [sp]bigger luke[/sp] you can thank me with pizza

Snoke grew from Luke's severed hand

[QUOTE=D3vils Buddy;51648837]Snoke grew from Luke's severed hand[/QUOTE] [sp]Snuuke[/sp]

I've always wondered. I know Order 66 and all of that, but is there any stories or EU stuff with remnants of the republic fighting empire or something to that liking?

[QUOTE=windows098;51649490]I've always wondered. I know Order 66 and all of that, but is there any stories or EU stuff with remnants of the republic fighting empire or something to that liking?[/QUOTE] [t]http://overmental.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Star-Wars-Rebels-Rex.jpeg[/t]

The rebel alliance is technically remnants of the republic. But with clones serving on every ship and that, it would probably be hard for any of the military to defect. In legends, I guess Rohm Kota's cell of rebels in The Force Unleashed might have been Republic troops. His backstory says his troops during the Clone War were not clones, which is why he wasn't killed during Order 66.

Is TFU still canon or did Disney retcon it

[QUOTE=Tuskin;51649551]The rebel alliance is technically remnants of the republic. But with clones serving on every ship and that, it would probably be hard for any of the military to defect. In legends, I guess Rohm Kota's cell of rebels in The Force Unleashed might have been Republic troops. His backstory says his troops during the Clone War were not clones, which is why he wasn't killed during Order 66.[/QUOTE] If there was anything from The Force Unleashed I want canon It's Rahm Kota.

[QUOTE=mcgrath618;51649613]Is TFU still canon or did Disney retcon it[/QUOTE] No stories from the EU are canon

[QUOTE=mcgrath618;51649613]Is TFU still canon or did Disney retcon it[/QUOTE] Someone should write in bold capital letters in the OP that only TCW and movies are canon. Everything else made before Disney bought SW doesn't exist as far as official canon is concerned.

[QUOTE=Damjen;51649631]Someone should write in bold capital letters in the OP that only TCW and movies are canon. Everything else made before Disney bought SW doesn't exist as far as official canon is concerned.[/QUOTE] Isn't there a comic series as well? And also a short story from the Star Was magazine.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;51649634]Isn't there a comic series as well? And also a short story from the Star Was magazine.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure both were published after Disney finished acquiring Lucasfilm. The comic for certain.

It's worth remembering Star Wars has a sliding scale of canon. Also, the Old Republic stuff is still semi-canon as far as I'm aware, same as before.

[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;51650050] Also, the Old Republic stuff is still semi-canon as far as I'm aware, same as before.[/QUOTE] I WANT PROOF

[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;51650127]I WANT PROOF[/QUOTE] It isn't correct, semi-canon is stretching, it's straight up non-canon, though a vague "Old Republic" is referenced and Darth Bane was also referenced and seen in the Clone Wars, that's as far as it goes when the canon is concerned, all the backgrounds, the games themselves, non-canon, though that doesn't stop any of the ideas or names from being used, or old ideas recanonised later on. And he's also wrong about the scaling canon or whatever the fuck he's going on about, the Movies and the animated cartoons, Clone wars/rebels are canon, the new books or comics, basically anything released [B]after[/B] the EU purge is canon, everything before that is [I]Legends[/I], which is non-canonical material.

[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;51650050]It's worth remembering Star Wars has a sliding scale of canon. Also, the Old Republic stuff is still semi-canon as far as I'm aware, same as before.[/QUOTE] None of what you said is true.

Is the Star Wars Super Bombad Racing game canon?

[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;51650189]Is the Star Wars Super Bombad Racing game canon?[/QUOTE] More canon than the movies tbh

The Old Republic isn't canon as it was made before the Disney buyout

[video]https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/818601288329900032[/video]

[QUOTE=jonu67;51650135]It isn't correct, semi-canon is stretching, it's straight up non-canon, though a vague "Old Republic" is referenced and Darth Bane was also referenced and seen in the Clone Wars, that's as far as it goes when the canon is concerned, all the backgrounds, the games themselves, non-canon, though that doesn't stop any of the ideas or names from being used, or old ideas recanonised later on. And he's also wrong about the scaling canon or whatever the fuck he's going on about, the Movies and the animated cartoons, Clone wars/rebels are canon, the new books or comics, basically anything released [B]after[/B] the EU purge is canon, everything before that is [I]Legends[/I], which is non-canonical material.[/QUOTE] A few planets and redesigned ship aren't vague. Also, darth bane predates the old republic content, he was created by lucas as a backstory for phantom menace, and narrowly had a line drop in the movie, but that was put into the novelization instead. [editline]10th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Tuskin;51650228][video]https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/818601288329900032[/video][/QUOTE] They should let people continue the EU

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some eu continuation once we get more content for the canon continuity

That would be confusing for new fans, especially if the EU content took place during the movie eras. Old Republic fine, but not anything around the PT, OT or ST.

I'm fine with the EU being dead once and for all. Just slowly bring back elements people liked from the EU like Thrawn and shit and incorporate it into the new canon, once we get around to the new old republic I suspect we'll get tons of shit from the old old republic era.

I watched the Despecialized Editions of the entire OT yesterday after having not seen the OT since childhood, and found the experience... rather surprising. It's interesting how the style changed between EpIV and EpV, getting much grittier and more inventive in sets and effects, really solidifying the 'used future' look as opposed to the Buck Rogers kind of style of EpIV. Also it's kind of surprising that EpIV turned out so great, considering how much got messed with during editing. It is still a little weird how you have Luke and Biggs coordinating during the final fight even after all the scenes establishing their relationship were cut, but that's a pretty minor gripe. Also, I remember the Ewoks being kind of weird when I saw the movie before, but it seemed like every scene they were in was a dumpster fire, and tonally completely inconsistent with the gravity of Luke's confrontation with the Emperor. Easily the worst part of the OT and almost as bad as the goofy slapstick shit that wound up in the prequels. Now I return to waiting for a decent Star Wars FPS that isn't Republic 'The only thing better than bullet sponge super battle droids are infinitely respawning Geonosians' Commando. I'd really kill for one set in the time period of the OT, but by the sound of things the new Battlefront isn't worth it.

[QUOTE=Pops;51650231]A few planets and redesigned ship aren't vague[/QUOTE] But just because those things exist doesn't mean the rest is canon, nor do they connect to the "old republic" that has been vaguely mentioned unless stated otherwise, they can use the names, they can use the ship designs, but that doesn't mean any of it's connected to the Legends Old Republic. We pretty much know nothing of this "new" old republic, other than the fact that it was the name given to a galactic government that existed prior to the establishment of the Galactic Republic, thousands of years before the Clone Wars, with some new canon mixed in that I can't remember off the top of my head, something to do with the Sith and Jedi of old fighting each other, might have come from Rebels And some canon from the Clone wars series with the Mandalorians who talked of the fall of the old republic, but other than that we don't really know much about it. [QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;51650302]I'm fine with the EU being dead once and for all. Just slowly bring back elements people liked from the EU like Thrawn and shit and incorporate it into the new canon, once we get around to the new old republic I suspect we'll get tons of shit from the old old republic era.[/QUOTE] That's pretty much what I'm expecting them to do with the New Old Republic eventually, it'll have new elements mixed with the better older elements, it won't be exactly the same, but they have the free reign to pick and choose the best parts from the Legends Old republic and leave out the worst parts and make a fantastic new Old Republic out of it.

A new hope/Empire strikes back are solid 8/10 movies RotJ is like 4/10. If it weren't for a few moments of utter beauty, it would've been 2 or 3. I haven't watched the prequels in a while, but on average, shot for shot, they're better than ep6. It's just episode 6 had those beautiful moments with luke, vader, the emperor (even if undermined by irrelevant shit on the planet) near the end and that drags it up for a lot of people. Is there a shortened version of E6 that gets rid of most of the ewok shit? Most of it just feels like they put it in so they can have all three movies be around two hours, when they only had an hour of plot for 6.

When I said a sliding scale of canon, I was [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#Canon_in_the_Holocron_continuity_database]referring to the Holocron continuity database[/url], which was used by Lucas licensing to keep track of its IP. It had different categories: G-canon, T-canon, C-canon, S-canon, N-canon and D-canon. Props to Leland Chee for keeping on top of everything and trying to make it all fit together. My point is, the setting's always been a clusterfuck and movies have always trumped everything else (see G-canon), so Disney saying "movies take precedence over everything" isn't exactly new, and there isn't really a need to consider Old Republic stuff as being canon or not as it happened so far in the past it has next to no bearing on the new film franchise.

[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;51650391]When I said a sliding scale of canon, I was [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#Canon_in_the_Holocron_continuity_database]referring[/url] to the Holocron continuity database[/url], which was used by Lucas licensing to keep track of its IP. It had different categories: G-canon, T-canon, C-canon, S-canon, N-canon and D-canon. My point is, the setting's always been a clusterfuck and movies have always trumped everything else (see G-canon), so Disney saying "movies take precedence over everything" isn't exactly new, and there isn't really a need to consider Old Republic stuff as being canon or not as it happened so far in the past it has next to no bearing on the new film franchise.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter, that's not how the canon works anymore. Movies, animated series and everything after the EU purge, categories are not a part of that. [editline]edit[/editline] That's not stopping you from having a headcanon though, like you said, the Old Republic (At least the first two, the MMO i'm sort of iffy on canon wise and I'd rather forget exists because it sort of ruins Revans character and it's later expansion packs are a bit off the scales because they know they aren't canon anymore and they can do what they want with it) but as long as it doesn't really get in the way of future canon, you believe what you want to believe. [editline]edit[/editline] Also Disney are being smart with the canon now, they aren't just making everything canon like ole Georgy did back in the day as long as they gave him money, which is why the EU was quite a large mess of contradictions and retcons and a bit of a clusterfuck, they are actually trying to keep the canon cohesive and non-contradictory and have even set up a specific sector of people JUST for that purpose, to keep the narrative clean, so it's not just Disney saying "movies take precedence over everything" because that previous "everything" is no longer canon and everything afterwards is just straight up canon, because they don't need "levels" of canon to keep things cohesive anymore.