Star Wars Megathread Episode IV: A New Thread: UNTAGGED SPOILERS? 1 WEEK BAN
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They're not?
Hyperspace is a dimension of space, IIRC
[QUOTE=Minelayer;52347865]Hyperspace is a dimension of space, IIRC[/QUOTE]
Yeah, when you "make the jump to lightspeed" you leave realspace and enter hyperspace; think of it like subspace, a dimension that allows faster movement which realspace is overlaid with. That's why you need to make calculations when you jump to hyperspace, because if you do it improperly you'll hit the gravitational "shadow" of a realspace object in your hyperspace lane and get torn out of hyperspace at best, or at worst, destroyed.
Rogue One was such a failure that my local Wal-Mart has 100+ Jyn Erso LEGO buildable figs on clearance for $15 Canadian. It seems like Disney put a lot in to Jyn, thinking she'd be this huge icon, but it has really fallen flat. Other R1 figures/LEGO sets are all on clearance too... Even though with LEGO, sets are usually only put on clearance once they're retired. No R1 set is retired as of writing yet.
Adults can say that it was ~bold and different~ and that Jyn Erso is a ~strong role model for the kids~ to fit in but toy sales don't lie. Little Timmy and little Daisy watched Rogue One and were not influenced by it enough to pull on daddies pantleg in the toy aisle to buy them a Sgt. Jyn Erso figure. We're less than a year after R1 and easily influenced kids don't give a shit. Other adult LEGO collectors I talk to are similar, buying OT/Prequel/Clonewars sets but they don't give a shit about R1 sets, unless it's something that's also in the OT like the R1 AT-AT. Many R1 sets are on clearance despite not being retired. In stark contrast, my local stores are having trouble keeping the shelves stocked with popular OT/Prequel sets.
I mention this because R1 was so mediocre and ultimately forgettable that I feel it degrades and brings down the movie franchise, and this helps prove it. Toys and collectibles are an easy way to measure the cultural impact of a movie, since people buy toys of shit they like. Why do you think the original starwars figures are in such high demand?
The OT will last forever for being really good movies. The prequels will last because despite being hot garbage, the EU/world built around them by thirdparty shows and comics are interesting, especially for kids. The writing is on the wall, in 5 years no one will care about R1 and you don't be able to buy toys for it. However 40 years after the release of Ep4 you can still buy a Luke Skywalker action figure at any major retailer.
Did you just post here to shit on R1?
Feels like your entire purpose.
It just came out of nowhere.
Rogue One made 1 Billion in Box Office, so i think it did pretty damn well.
Saw it 3 times myself in theatres, then bought it on Blu-Ray on release.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52361301]Did you just post here to shit on R1?
Feels like your entire purpose.
It just came out of nowhere.[/QUOTE]
its a starwars thread
and im discussing
starwars
and its cultural impact
????
Was there anything you liked about the movie? Any constructive criticism?
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52361313]Was there anything you liked about the movie? Any constructive criticism?[/QUOTE]
Is negative criticism not valid if you disagree with it, or if I don't also post some things I like with it too? Here's some things I liked, why not.
-designs for scarif/hovertank troopers, as well as other costumes/vehicles are grounded in the starwars universe, fitting the OT look, yet fresh.
-the movie makes sense and is cohesive enough that you don't need to rewatch it and read supplementary material to understand it, unlike the prequels.
-the character of Krennic and his interactions with sassy vader are nice and nostalgtic. Krennic as a character adds to Tarkins character really well, making the latter seem even slimier and greedier for stabbing Krennic in the back. It's such a little thing but it elevates Tarkins characterization so well, better than any of the novels I've read at least.
-the final battle is really well paced and probably one of my favourite cinematic battle scenes in recent memory
...But really, my point isn't that it's a [I]bad[/I] movie. I literally never said it was a [I]bad[/I] movie. It works as a piece of cinema and as a piece of the SW universe. I just said that it's mediocre and forgettable. It's a decent movie in a franchise of excellent movies and mountains of supplementary material ranging from decent to excellent.
I specifically talked about toy sales because it's a strong measure of the movies impact, especially on kids and diehard fans that collect thousands of dollars in memorabilia (like me). Shit like The Mummy is going to make a fuckload of money at the box office. The latest Kong movie made like half a billion dollars, and now no one talks about it. Jurassic World made over half a billion in 2015, and now no one really talks about it. Box Office numbers are tied directly to how much marketing and brand recognition there is and not the impact they leave. Who the fuck is going to buy a Tom Cruise action figure from The Mummy 2017.
I might have overreacted to your first post
[editline]14th June 2017[/editline]
But I did see a lot of girls and women in Jyn outfits in convention footage, not as many as Rey, but there were a lot
I thought Jyn was cool, only real problems I had with her were the hokey lines like "rebellions are built on hope" (because IMO having one character repeat what another said but in a different situation is a trope that needs to end), and "it's not a problem if you don't look up". Star Wars is full of those kind of dead weight lines though.
I think if they wanted to sell more toys, they could have kept some of those cool beach sprint/tie duel scenes that got cut, like I'm not sure I'd think Jyn was the coolest if I were a kid just for shooting some dudes and doing some truncheon spins on Jedha.
I think the sole reason toys of Jyn aren't selling well is because, well [sp]she dies at the end of the movie along with everyone else. I think people, and especially kids, just aren't used to characters dying at the end of the story, and the conflicting feelings this creates kind of shoots the desire to play with them as toys in the foot.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Sheer Visor;52361310]its a starwars thread
and im discussing
starwars
and its cultural impact
????[/QUOTE]
Rusty is that you?
[sp]I know you can't be the real rusty, he liked Rogue Uno[/sp]
Jyn's costume reminded me a lot of Han Solo. Which makes it feel "reused" and thus not special. But I think it's understandable since they really wanted to connect this movie to the OT, and specifically ANH so it's just one more extra tie in.
Rey's was new and unique, which made here stand out more, but not Jyn.
The Star Wars YouTube channel has a really cute animated series going called "Star Wars Blips."
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8IU1jb9W8s[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6h4bV4_hxQ[/media]
Made a few avatars if anyone is interested.
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So for the what ever re-release of Return of the Jedi added the shot of Naboo at the very end during the celebration montage, they just took a shot for Episode 1, flipped it horizontally and added people.
Seriously, it is the exact same shot, the clouds are identical, the camera framing is identical, they just flipped it.
I didn't mean to make this its own post, whoops.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/7SpfO6c.png[/t]
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[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52365626]One of my favourite things about starwars is how Palpatine just gets away with talking like a chain smoking toad for no reason. He has a normal speaking voice and he can switch between them whenever he wants but no one seems to question it despite the fact that literally no other sith does that :v:[/QUOTE]
Hey, you need an evil voice to complete the evil package.
Preview of the next Darth Vader issue
[url]https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2017/06/preview-of-marvels-star-wars-darth-vader-2-2/[/url]
I like to think that Palpatine's toad accent is just all acting and he speaks like a normal person when nobody's around. He was probably Darth Plagueis's little bitch and now he tries to act all tough and shit. Geez, I mean the guy killed him when he was asleep. That's a true Dark Lord of the Sith for you.
The Millennium Falcon is on google maps :v: This is the legit shooting model.
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/6hqb09/the_millenium_falcon_found_on_google_maps_hidden/[/url]
[url]https://www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2%B023'01.6%22N+0%C2%B034'54.9%22W/@51.3839117,-0.5822561,182m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d51.383791!4d-0.581917[/url]
[QUOTE=Tuskin;52370858]The Millennium Falcon is on google maps :v: This is the legit shooting model.
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/6hqb09/the_millenium_falcon_found_on_google_maps_hidden/[/url]
[url]https://www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2%B023'01.6%22N+0%C2%B034'54.9%22W/@51.3839117,-0.5822561,182m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d51.383791!4d-0.581917[/url][/QUOTE]
I like that they tried to hide it/block it off with shipping containers so that no one would try to find it there and mess with it.
I guess they'll have to move it elsewhere, probably underneath a roof.
[QUOTE=Whit3;52370342]I like to think that Palpatine's toad accent is just all acting and he speaks like a normal person when nobody's around. He was probably Darth Plagueis's little bitch and now he tries to act all tough and shit. Geez, I mean the guy killed him when he was asleep. That's a true Dark Lord of the Sith for you.[/QUOTE]maybe he's so evil that there's a constant, invisible stream of pure "BAD" flowing out through his mouth, affecting his speech style
One of the best things they did to SW canon was redoing the Mandalorians entirely.
The best thing any franchise holder has ever done is erase Karen Traviss' fanfiction tier war porn crap from their history.
I just had to look her up.
She genuinely thought, and argued that 3 million clones was enough for a whole war across a GALAXY. Wow she knows literally nothing about war on [I]any scale[/I]
[QUOTE=Zeos;52377550]She genuinely thought, and argued that 3 million clones was enough for a whole war across a GALAXY. Wow she knows literally nothing about war on [I]any scale[/I][/QUOTE]
[quote]Books by her give the Grand Army of the Republic's numbers at 3 million clones; this was seen as both impossibly low to protect the Republic's membership of [b]just under 1.3 million planets (meaning 2.3 clones per planet)[/b] as well as less than the hundred million men required to fight World War II on a single planet.[/quote]
There's something hilarious about imagining barracks on every Republic world across the galaxy holding 2 or 3 clones.
[QUOTE=Flicky;52377659]There's something hilarious about imagining barracks on every Republic world across the galaxy holding 2 or 3 clones.[/QUOTE]
The way I see it is that the battles were just that. Most you're battles were primarily planet/system hopping and typically were never full scale sieges except seldom. That and we see local forces did in fact assist and played a large part.
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