World of Warcraft: Battle For Azeroth - Pirates and Dinosaurs Edition
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eh i see him getting into sylvanas's way and getting killed probably stopping her from killing jaina or greymane or someone equally important
his name is zekhan according to a tweet that revealed the voice actor
It'd be cool if he became an actual relevant character. I doubt he will, but I feel like the Horde is in need of likable people.
The Horde has Saurfang and...
Lor'themar is a pretty cool dude, but he's criminally underused.
He was being such a sassy fucker during the nightborne recruitment mission, I hope we see him again at some point in this expansion.
Baine might potentially be cool if he ever did anything.
And I like Gallywix, but only because of how much I hate him.
The Horde has likeable characters it's just nobody's ever heard of them because Blizzard does jack shit with em. Personally I find most Alliance characters to be insufferable and leapt at the chance to put one between Malfurion's eyes
The Horde is in dire needs of more recurring, non-leader and non-evil characters who don't get killed off. So far Zekhan is the only notable Horde troll who's still alive and isn't Rokhan.
Ive always preferred the Horde's characters to the Alliance ones. We just see far more of the latter than the former.
I think Genn is the only Alliance character I actually like? The rest all either have that ~holier than thou~ attitude or are just too perfect and Mary sueish.
For fucks sake, Anduin can literally do no wrong, he's the nicest man alive and if he tries to make a bad decision then the light gives him a nice dose of bone hurting juice to set him on the right path.
Most of my problems with the Alliance Leadership is they're 1,000,000 years old and act like naive children.
his name is nowhere to be found within game files, so it's either he's already forgotten, or he's gonna become more relevant in later patches
I think the latter is at least a slim possibility considering how quickly the fans have taken to him.
And on tbe topic of trolls, I hope BFA comes with some more Darkspear troll gear. The Zandalari stuff looks great, but it'd be great to get some classic troll gear that's not from 2004.
Forgive me if this is the wrong place, I couldn't find a Warcraft thread.
I'm wanting to play the original Warcraft trilogy. For a totally different game series, Myth, you have the option of playing Myth 1 in Myth 2's engine. Is there a mod that lets you do something similar with Warcraft 1 & 2 in Warcraft III?
Otherwise, does that mean Warcraft 1 and 2 are vaporware (I haven't been able to find them legitimately.) and Blizzard is charging $10 for Warcraft III's base game and another $10 for its DLC?
I don't really have a max lvl horde alt and I hate leveling soooo
What class should I preferably boost?
Currently thinking about boosting my pally alt at lvl 67 since I already have druid, warr, DK and rogue at max
For those wanting to re-watch the new cinematics, someone on r/wow combined them in-order:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhCUC8cGOaU
Credit to u/mihainita22
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so this is azshara's plan
Genn, Varian, and now Anduin feel like the only Alliance characters who've actually learned anything.
I've seen a lot of people bash Genn for being a warmonger but, as far as I can tell, his only quarrel with the Horde is that they are harboring the Forsaken. Genn was very pompous and ignorant when his story began but he was punished for it by losing his son and his homeland along with most of his people. While he was made vengeful, I imagine that he lost his pride and his taste for war when his few remaining family members and the last of the Gilneans nearly perished at sea. I feel that the Genn we see is driven by focused revenge, not naive hatred.
As for Varian, he seemed like one of the few characters that could see the people of Azeroth seperate from the politics of their factions. When he died "For the Alliance", I got the impression that it was not for pride but for the future of his people. I think his temperance at the end of SoO shows this more plainly.
Then we have characters like Velen who are determined to learn nothing at all-
"We follow the path of the light, no matter where it leads!" "You will never understand what I did to save my people!"
Anduin, while it could be argued that he is naively hopeful- doesn't let his desires stop him from taking difficult actions. It's been shown time and time again that Anduin does not want to do battle but he recognizes that honor demands an intervention with Sylvanas, even at the risk of ending his relationship with the Horde. What I think is especially cool about Anduin and Varian is that they have both been developing into the same character except from opposite ends. Yes, Varian and Anduin are kind of flawless now but their backstories give insight into their development and give some reasons as to why they're not cripplingly naive.
Its nice we got something to at least confirm that other members of the horde aren't happy with Shitvanas.
Now all we need to do is kill her.
I wouldn't say Varian and Anduin are flawless. Far from it.
Varian was a warmonger up until MoP where he finally began to learn from Anduin that he could actually achieve peace through diplomacy (his attempts to get the blood elves to switch sides comes to mind, and then later his willingness to have a truce with the Horde, rather than finish off all their major leaders when he had the chance). He also echoes Anduin's teaching and
effectively admits that, without his son's teachings, he likely never would have become so "peaceful" (very relatively speaking) as he did.
Anduin, in a similar vein, is also flawed. He desires peace above all, but learned the hard way that war is also necessary at times. While he acknowledges that war with the Horde is
unavoidable, largely because of Sylvanas, it's pretty obvious he is very reluctant to actually fight even then.
don't forget that varian was gonna execute moira infront of her people but didn't because anduin intervened
There is also the fact that Genn launched an assassination attempt on Sylvanas that cost Stormwind the last of it's remaining airships and seemingly wasn't reprimanded at all by Anduin. Suggesting that at best he was ignorant to it or at worst sanctioned it himself.
The Worgen came across as really really stupid for that attack.
"Genn believes the Horde betrayed us for literally no reason, leading to a defeat that wouldn't benefit them in the slightest. So, despite the fact we apparently have shit loads spies within Horde who could easily report on the validity of any such betrayal- it's clear the only acceptable course of action is to not do that and instead attack their armies while our planet is under assault from a vast demonic army known for wiping out much of the cosmos"
~at least we got to pwn sylvanas tho!~
I'm questing through Suramar to try and get Legion flying before BFA and I have to ask, am I missing something? Suramar City is a huge pain in the ass to navigate and has gotten worse since the quest chains send me to the eastern half which is full of elites and mobs that can break your disguise. I got to where I thought the quest giver was but it turns out she is on the tier above which required me to run all the way back to a central staircase to go up then back to where she was.
Nah Suramar is a pain in the butt.
A gorgeous pain in the butt, but a pain in the butt nonetheless.
Anduin has been written into a very never-do-wrong boy who displays 'non-masculine' attributes - whatever Christie Golden meant by that. He's destined to become leader of the Army of the Light and somehow unite all the races which probably means absorbing the Horde into the Alliance. The guy has bones that can tell if people are lying. Everyone loves him, everyone backs him. The Alliance side writing is honestly dogshit in terms of perspective and characters with turmoil. When they do get something to react to it's largely the Horde up to something rather than an event within their faction being at fault.
Vanilla Alliance was so much more interesting than the infallible we have now. Worse to come is Jania in Kul Tiras which is essentially a redo of Yrel.
You can say what you want about the Horde but at least there's something to talk about on that side of the fence regarding rights and wrongs.
I'm glad that Kul Tiras turned their back on Jaina. Although I'm fucking dissapointed at the end of the quest-line Jaina just becomes Grand Admira. Despite her outright treason
To be fair, we've not seen very much of Anduin. He has done no wrong because he has never been in a position to make a wrong decision. The siege of Lordaeron is the first significant action he has taken as a king- and pursuing Sylvanas isn't even something he really could have decided against.
That's not true at all. We've seen absolutely loads about Anduin. More so than most WoW characters who have also existed since Vanilla. Christie loves to write about him, he's been in numerous books and comics. The character has had his very own story arcs throughout Cataclysm, MoP and Legion. Anduin is a very established character.
"Not being in a position to make a wrong decision" is the exact problem with Alliance writing. The guy can't do anything bad. If he does, the Light will make his bones ache lmao.
World of Warcraft: Battle For Azeroth - Pirates and Dinosaurs Edition
