TF2 General Chat and Speculation Station V9 - Sad Heavy Hours? Who Up?
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I doubt Valve as a whole is aware of what he's done, and even if they are he might have power at the company since he's been there so long.
Even the asshole Steam translation administrator Torsten Zabka is still there afaik, and he would pay the volunteers with weird tokens.
mr casali has contributed enough for the gaming industry to be immune from this petty shit. you aren't gonna lose a dream career for having a hissy fit in a couple tf2 pubs. As unfortunate as his moves are, valve couldn't care less. worst case scenario is he got told "hey man stay off pubing for a little bit" which he did
Unfortunate for him, but this is a game with a very real cheating problem. The Valve employee had no reason to think he was anything but a shitty hacker ruining people's good time, and acted quickly.
First we're mad at Valve for being too hands-off with this stuff, and now we're upset because a Valve employee acted swiftly and in good faith?
People pretending to be cheaters aren't as bad as actual cheaters, of course, but that doesn't mean this kind of behavior is acceptable in a game with TF2's cheating epidemic. It makes an already bad problem look worse.
Additionally, I'm sure Dario could've permabanned him from Casual if he really wanted to. 6 months is a slap on the wrist in comparison.
6 months for shaking your screen view, though. Real cheating makes players spin inhumanly even before the shots and anyone with a couple hundred hours can tell the difference.
imagine if you get 6 months for spamming ADAD strafing too
I have little pity for people who suffer ill consequences for their bad behavior and then whine about it. Six months might be a long stretch (we might even get a TF2 update in that time) but in Valve Time it's a blip.
If the ban is overturned then no harm no foul but you can't seriously defend banning someone for half a year because they pretended in jest like they were hacking.
Like, oh shit, I'd better get my KDR down to more middling levels, lest someone accuse me of hacking too! I'd just be asking for it at that point, after all!
ADAD strafing isn't really cheater behavior, though. The fuckers usually don't have anything resembling movement.
Also, yeah, it's severe when you put it like that, but this was still a person who was trying to convince people he was cheating. Maybe not particularly well upon close inspection, but the people playing against him wouldn't know that, and I'd argue that from a victim's perspective, playing with someone you think is cheating can be just as demoralizing as playing against an actual cheater. That fishy fucker just killed you and isn't being punished. That can't feel good.
Let me put it this way. You know how those prank YouTubers used to go around provoking and harassing people? That stopped relatively quickly because people got fed up with it real quick, regardless of whether or not it was a prank, and they got their asses beat. I'm firmly of the belief that they had it coming.
If you're trying to convince people that you're a cheater, or a criminal, or a racist, do not be surprised when they react by treating you like one, and don't complain about it.
I would also like to have the Plasma Rifle for the Heavy, I was joking about the BFG of course.
the people who cheat are responsible for the cheating epidemic, first and foremost.
should valve have done more? yes. they're actually doing more lately.
but cheaters are, first and foremost, responsible for their actions.
Having fun = bad behaviour. I feel bad for you people, and I feel sad that actual cheaters don't get banned. That pony faggot, It's been years, he's still playing fucking casual daily with cheats and still not banned.
I mean, I'd destroy you, so it's okay to feel that way.
Yeah sure buddy, maybe in your deepest lucid dreams. Or you know, If I played Sniper against you, you'd just say I'm cheating anyway :-)
They are going to come back no matter what methods Valve uses. Cheaters always find their way around.
Unless you're secretly Invite, I've played with and against players way better than you. I also don't make hackusations unless I can prove it, and you'll find I'm much less salty about the Sniper class than most people here.
Anyway, if you're in the US, ditto MGE me sometime. Whatever class you pick, I'll do it better.
you can see where im from above my name
What company out there has been able to completely deter cheaters? I honestly can't think of any off hand...
World of Warcraft?
Stop saying he was pretending to cheat, anyone who actually mistook it for a spinbot would be a fucking retard, even when you set your sensitivity to 100 and spin around like a maniac it's still obvious as fuck that you're doing it manually, that's if you ever saw an actual spinbot
I have a custom bind "cl_yawspeed 4000; bind [key] +left" which actually makes me look like a spinbot after I kill someone. I guess I'll stop using it, you know, Incase I run into a TF2 dev.
So did you not learn anything about why toxicity is bad over the past week or something?
Because it is in fact possible to get across ideas like this without sounding like an edgy 12 year old. You should work on that.
The Irony.
idk about you guys but I shake my mouse around pretty frequently when playing with friends, not because I want to look like a cheater but because characters going crazy looks pretty funny
I still enjoy going T-pose, cl_yawspeed 100000 +right and amuse the children in mvm
geez that would scare valve to heck
pls stop
Cry more
I've always wondered, is your username a reference to the amount of box ratings you get here because almost everything you say is stupid?
"I'm a free speech advocate"
you do realize your speech is only protected in public venues, and privately owned organizatons have every right to exclusde you as they see fit
brush up on free speech and free expression laws sometime before you express shitty day one sociopolitical opinions like this
the guy has already admited he doesn't play the game.
Maybe it depends on how much you play? Cause I don't play TF2 anymore, but every time I open it up to use the in-game workshop importer, I instantly drop a case. Even recently I dropped the blue moon AND the 2017 winter case at once.
just move on.
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