World of Warcraft: Battle For Azeroth V2 - Daelin Was Right (feat. Mark Addy)
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Pyromancer. Does lore theory crafting and is just generally funny.
Kruzadar. New to WoW, not new to MMO's.
Both are mainly on twitch now.
Asmongold, Preach, and Bellular.
Asmongold is shitposting given flesh and is always enjoyable, Bellular is an gamedev himself so I like seeing his opinions on how WoW's gameplay aspects are shaping up, and Preach is a generally good player and Mythic raider, so his is another unique perspective.
There's also MethodJosh, who is quite the personality as well as being one of the best Priests in the world.
https://www.twitch.tv/methodjosh/clip/PhilanthropicMildLaptopSoBayed
New info from 8.1. Most of it has to do with the raid, but what I found most interesting (and yet not particularly surprising), is Baine openly accusing Sylvanas for taking it too far (we don't find out what 'it' is, but I can imagine what it might be). He also speaks a lot about honour, and how it's what binds the Horde together - something which Sylvanas doesn't give a shit about.
I don't watch a lot of game streams but Bellular is a pretty cool guy. He was down at EGX last week with a pretty neat game.
so I was doing some WQs in zandalar getting my rep up and this tauren blood dk 2x my health jumps me. unfortunately for him I was a prot pally.
We ran around in circles for like 15 minutes, him stunning me and whatnot and me just popping my heals to top myself off, he even taunted me.
finally he just gave up and ran away when he realized I was an unmovable object.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/135/0eba93c9-2e3c-41fd-a949-7d77542d8536/image.png
i never noticed
this is what i wanted all this time
proper fucking norwegian representation
thank you blizzard...
This is from Darkshore in 8.1. Honestly, Blizzard can fuck off:
Sira and Delaryn are then raised as forsaken.
Tyrande Whisperwind says: "You must fight the shadow in your hearts, sisters!"
Sira Moonwarden says: "We placed our faith in you."
Delaryn Summermoon says: "And you abandoned us. Elune abandoned us!"
Delaryn Summermoon says: "We have nothing left. We are forsaken."
Tyrande Whisperwind says: "Never again. Ash thoribas!"
Frankly, it's outrageous that they immediately swear undying loyalty to the forsaken. I get more and more pissed the longer this expansion goes on.
Morally gray.
As far as this sounds completely retarded, Dark Wardens are a huge turn-on for me, althought I'm having my doubts the scenario will lead to another allied race of undead Night Elves/Elves of the Black Moon or something, 'cause they'd be pretty damn redundant, Nightborne and all
So is becoming Forsaken now literally brainwashing rather than just being an undead that has a will of its own?
'Cause it's starting to sound like brainwashing.
I agree that the idea of night elf Dark Rangers is pretty damn baller, but this datamining shows that, so far, they're handle it in the most awful-fucking-way they possibly could! Literally within seconds,
both of them become raging edgelords, screaming that Elune abandoned them and that Tyrande failed them, when in fact, it was simply overwhelming odds that brought about their deaths. It wasn't
Elune's fault, it wasn't Tyrande's, so why the fucking is Blizzard trying to push that narrative? I'm beginning to think they're trying to take the entire night elven race in another direction, where they no
longer follow Elune.
Forsaken have been getting mind controlled on reanimation since Cata, it's not a spoiler. The first quests you get are you running about the graveyard in Deathknell putting down anyone who resists or dissents. The rest has you chasing Lillian Voss around telling her to come and serve Sylvanas, it's great!
Yeah, I'm sure I remember hearing people being upset about that vs Vanilla's forsaken quests.
I never leveled an undead so I got no clue to be honest.
As I understood it from that one time years ago when I made a Forsaken character (and quickly deleted it), the other undead you're fighting in Deathknell aren't being killed simply for refusing to serve,
they're being killed because they're actively trying to usurp the Forsaken's control over the local area. The Rotbrain, I believe they're called.
Actually, that quest defies your very point.
You are tasked to talk with the recently raised undead around and ask them if they'd like to join the Forsaken, given they have now free will (which, among true sentience and self-awarness, is the main definitive trait of the Forsaken in comparison to other undead beings) and can do whatever they'd like.
If I remember correctly, the quest goes down like this:
One NPC can't accept what he has become, so he commits suicide (how exactly I couldn't tell, him being undead and all).
One NPC gladly accept his new place as a Forsaken and enter their ranks.
Marcus Redpath refuses your offer and proclaim he's going to rise a Forsaken-like organization of his own. It's severely implied that the undeath process compromised his thinking straight process, as him and the other undead he sways to his side form the Rotbrain group just outside Deathknell. They turn hostile on the Forsaken soon enough, however, and the Forsaken player is asked to put them down
Lilian Voss is a special case, as it's clear she's some kind of special undead and the questline involving her is less about convincing her to join the Forsaken and more about helping her come to terms with the fact she has become an undead, with your character acting like some sort of mentor.
As you can see, Cataclysm's Forsaken starting experience doesn't involve mind control or anything of the sort in any way: after being raised as an undead with free will, the subjects can decide to join up or do whatever the hell they want, unless they become a problem for the Forsaken themselves.
I'll give you however that Cataclysm itself basically disregard this whole fucking plot point in the very next area you visit: in Silverpine Forest, when Sylvanas is showing Garrosh the Val'kyr potential as a way to expand the Forsaken race, the many corpses she has resurrected immediately salute her and become Forsaken, like they were brain-washed on the spot or something, no problem
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You know, I thought the mass reanimation happened in Deathknell. I've not played a Forsaken in so long, cheers for the correction.
Remember it's been said ever since Vanilla wow that becoming undead often twists or skews the personality of the reanimated person.
It seems to me that the reanimated night elves are motivated more by the amplification of negative feeling towards Tyrande rather than any particular loyalty to Sylvanas.
I mean, The Night Elves of darkshore literally were *forsaken *by Tyrande. Her husband got ganked and she hearthstoned out with him, quitting the field and abandoning her troops. I can buy that they would be bitter towards her if raised from the dead.
'join us or be killed...again.' is pretty much what they are doing in silverpine. there isn't a faction of neutral forsaken
I can't quite recall it verbatim (rendering this pretty moot, I know) but in a handy dandy novelisation, it's revealed that Tyrande was handling the evacuation of Darnassus and mobilising troops across Darkshore. It's only ingame (the only real medium that people care about) that she shows up and hearthstones out. Blizzard are retarded when it comes to conveying their stories in any coherent manner.
Whoops, I haven't read the novellas.
I thought before the storm was pretty a disappointing read so I didn't bother with them.
If that's the case, wouldn't they feel even more bitter towards Slyvanas and the horde for invading and then destroying their homeland?
Sure, but they expected that of Sylvanas. It wouldn't have been a betrayal.
Pretty sure there are a few scourge npcs that have similar attitudes towards their former comrades- it's the whole "you allowed them to do this to me!" thing.
Regardless if it's a betrayal or not, the destruction of Teldrassil and devastation of Darkshore lies squarely with Sylvanas and the Horde. It's completely asinine that they would swear loyalty to her so
quickly.
Why are AGS 101 screens SO EXPENSIVE
I found out today why Nathanos weirds me out as a character so much.
https://imgur.com/FX4poT6
What if the current storyline literally isn't going anywhere and it's just some dude wanking over his favourite characters
oh noooooo
Would sure explain why they've decided to leave the horde in the hands of the two least interesting characters in the game.
You mean what Blizzard has been doing the last three years?
But honestly though this storyline is really going down the shitter faster than I thought it would.
Ignoring the vindicaar is fucking retarded, there are plenty of in universe reasons the draenei wouldn't use it as a weapon of war on azeroth.
Literally just have Velen pull a khadgar. "I fought alongside heroes of Azeroth to vanquish the legion, you would have our people bring the might of the vindicaar against a champion who stood beside me within the twisting nether when I faced overlord Kruul? those who defended me when I faced kil'jaden in the great dark? you would see our new home blackened and scoured as argus was?"
BOOM. Velen doesn't use the super weapon because he's not a prick.
Also yeah the Blightcaller shit is starting to annoy me too. I got the impression he was a Mary Sue self insert while reading the short story a while back, when this one human dude was better than all the elves in silvermoon and got the gurl and they were all suuuuper jealous and then he defeated them all!,but didn't know it was actually true lmao.
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