• TF2 General Chat and Speculation Station V13 - Heavy times
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Odd because the beta has been out of everyone's Steam library for ages now. If you had any achievements in it, those are still technically stored on your profile but you can't view them or re-lock them with SAM. Same with that old Gmod beta from a few years back. I tried re-locking all my achievements and I still had achievements unlocked according to my achievement showcase profile widget. I just couldn't view the achievements whatsoever, nor re-lock them. Finding the old appids for both betas was fruitless as well, as SAM just reports that you don't own the game or something.
to the "oh" statement - you are aware that it's just about as much baseless speculation as some rando saying this confirms source 2 or some shit?
Operation Canteen Crasher (a community MvM tour in the same vein as Titanium Tank) is now out of beta.
idk how many people here know but I apparently blew a few people's minds yesterday so a PSA for anyone who doesn't know, muting people also mutes their in-game chat. If someone on the enemy team is spamming "Family guy peter get ipad" after every kill and death, and they just can't seem to be kicked, it's a mildly better solution than spamming voice chat with complaints ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Here is your obligatory blog post for it
It’s most useful on the new maps. The EotL map was a little painful to have teammates going the wrong way.
Getting ready for the public Source 2 port beta? Honesty it's hard to get excited for this since there's no way if knowing what it is. Could be something interesting and exciting coming or it could be nothing.
I definitely don't see Source 2 happening, but I can definitely see some fundamental engine changes that need to be tested. Most likely, idk, Valve does weird shit sometimes and it probably means nothing.
if the past has taught us anything best is to expect nothing but however keep an eye out and dont dismiss it instantly.
Yeah even if they don't port TF2 to Source 2 I hope to see them update the engine/game to run better on modern computers.
https://steamdb.info/app/223530/history/ It's nothing.
exor n feeble youve been granted a valve hate post use it wisely
big surprise
Do you think we'll get another major update again?
yes
hey man that's not cool, i've been going to the gym and lost 15 pounds this yea- wait do you mean gabe
It isn't that hard to notice the outline being there or not (at least for me), and even then there's also the name and health that shows above your teammate's heads when you have respawn glows on, which is way easier to see. Even if it's better than seeing them through walls, it would still make it too easy to tell who is and who isn't a spy.
Indeed. Valve set everything in the Friends & Family sub to released for Artifact beta access for said people, SteamDB has access to that sub so that also gave access to old betas.
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wtf man we just got dead ringer nerfed to oblivion and you want to bring it back
it was called the v1 enforcer, and a lot of people didnt like it. i personally thought it was interesting, but i think it's downsides were too small, making it not so fun for a lot of people
or you can just shoot people because the stock revolver is still really good
DR is still annoying. It's just not insanely broken anymore. Amby needed a nerf, but in classic Valve fashion after years of leaving the Amby as OP AF in skilled hands they OVERLY nerfed it by a factor of two. Spy-Cicle is still a crutch for shit spies. Enforcer is oddly viable for picking snipers (the most noble thing a spy can do.) L'Etranger is a fantastic utility sidegrade. The Diamondback is still in the running for the worst designed weapon in TF2. Rewarding a class for doing what it's supposed to do with crits is a dumb idea. Giving stored crits to a class that can cloak and disguise is mind bogglingly stupid. Can I get a minigun that rewards me for being slow and fat? How about the Brass beast gets 3x chance to roll random crits? Or a flame thrower that has an increased chance for random crits that goes up the longer the pyro holds both the forward key and fire keys? The WM1 monster! Or maybe we can give medic a primary that stores crits. Something to give the Crossbow a little competition. You get one stored crit (up to, say, 35 of them) for every 600 HP healed. This is great game design here. Valve really needs to hire me.
I'm saying if you're looking at a Spy long enough to put those pieces together, he's already massively fucked up. Your options are removing an otherwise-great feature that helps convey what's happening in the game, or throwing everything away when all that's needed is a minor, if wonky, fix. As long as the outlines remain, they can't be on disguised Spies- it exposes Spies when they uncloak elsewhere in the map, it can be abused during respawn time to alert your team to where Spies are appearing, and, of course, it exposes far too many Spies who are doing their job and staying out of the enemy's line of sight.
sup guys, need a little bit of help again! when i trade up weapons, lets say i trade up only battlescared ones. will i get a battlescarred skin, or can i get a factory new one?
What else is there in terms of utility that can make the Diamond Back a viable and not broken weapon in place of its crits mechanic? Obviously anything else, but what can aid Spy that every other revolver doesn't cover yet?
Like CSGO it uses an algorithm to average which you get, but if you use all of the same quality you'll get the same quality. Ten factory news make one factory new, five battle scarreds and five factory news has a 50/50 chance of being either.
thanks dood
For me, most of Spy's unlocks have been border line, if not completely nerfed into the ground at this point. Dead Ringer takes too long to get anything done now and it's only real upside is getting the spy through heavily spammed chokes. Ambassador isn't worth using at all any more over stock revolver, I'm curious to what top level spies say about it now that it's been like this for a year. Red Tape Recorder is a complete downgrade to stock outside of mini spam, which really aren't that hard to deal with any more anyway. Enforcer is garbage last I checked. Spy-cicle is... I guess ok... I still personally prefer stock but whatever. Kunai is good against casuals I guess, not sure how comp see it personally. Cloak n' Dagger has it's uses. Your Eternal Reward is still terrible last I checked... Diamond back is still only good against bad players and punishing good players afterwards, and I do agree that it's design is far worse then Ambassador's ever was IMO. I won't honestly be surprised if Le'Tranger and Big Earner get the nerf stick next with how Spy unlocks go because they're actually good. I'm under the impression Valve really only wants Stock to be viable though at this point for Spy.
What if it kept the 15% penalty, had 4 or 5 shots, but every building sapped/backstab adds an extra shot to the clip?
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