As long as you simply keep in mind to keep to scale (1/72~ for BA and 1/100 for Flames of War), you can really get everything plastic if you want to if you're willing to buy outside their own brand.
Zvezda has a huge collection of 1/100 tanks and 1/72 troops in a quality that gets better with each passing year. PSC has soldiers for cheap and some vehicles and units, all of this in plastic.
I think really sometimes you just gotta be ok with sourcing from diff companies. Obv this is hard in games that are set but tbh for "realistic" wargames really anything goes.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/217613/810b74dd-8128-48b2-b58e-8be5c075d1e0/image.png
Here's a T-34 from Zvezda I painted and added some ~battle damage~ to.
Maybe just try a new ruleset to use your existing models with? You can fairly easily plug 40K models into 5150, or Star Grunt II (which is free), and have some casual, smaller model count games whilst retaining the 40k universe flavour. 5150 is particularly useful because it has solo rules built in, and you can use different versions for various things from platoon+ sized engagements, to bug hunts, to Blade Runner style adventures.
I've always liked the idea of using a "tale of four gamers" type challenge to get someone into a new period, especially if it is rules neutral or a game where there are cheap models available.
Bolt Action is 1/56ish, 1/72 is a tad small to intermingle with the 28mm stuff. But there's no reason you can't use a whole force of 1/72. It would probably look more "correct" on the table anyway as there would be a bit more spacing and distances would look a bit more sensible.
i think 1/56 is a bit too big for wargame, but yeah you're right, BA uses 1/56 at least from their own selection, so if you want to mix kits you need to keep to the "28 mm" scale.
But like, there's so much ww2 stuff, in both 1/72 and 1/100 that you really cna realistically play almost anything at those scales provided you're ok with buying from different suppliers
I've had success with 1/48 for Bolt Action, fits in well.
https://www.butlersprintedmodels.co.uk/15mm/post-ww2/german.html
Would these be bad models at all?
Look 3d-printed, so you will probably have to do a lot of cleaning and depending on quality might be brittle.
I can not recommend the zvezda 1/100 series enough.
Unfortunately, Zvezda doesn't have any post war German models.
I truly believe they will in the future as they have scale model kits of post war US and i think also a german model or two. I'd honestly almost say buy zvezda kits in general just to give continued support. (of course up to you). But they basically improve their quality every year and have new releases seemingly often.
Yeah, I bought a Tamiya 1/48 Pershing for my bolt action force, fits in perfectly fine, in fact the crew hatches and machine guns are the same size as the 1/56 Bolt Action stuff.
It's not a matter of models. It's that people literally just have no interest in other games that aren't 40k/AoS related. They have no issue buying more stuff for 40k/AoS for factions they like and there's even 30k starting up, but as soon as it doest have fluff they're already invested in the interest just isn't there. I've had at least one person outright say they don't want to do any other games (who then bought all of the HH rulebook a week later) so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mind if I ask why? I've been considering using Scion legs/torsos instead and would be interested to hear your thoughts.
There really isn't any specific reason, I guess I just can't unsee them as GSC neophytes. I guess I'm just so used to the vanilla Skitarii bodies that I'm a bit biased. Plus Mechanicus having a bunch of visible augmentations is part of what I like about their aesthetic.
Well that's obvious. I don't see how its feasible keeping that many systems going at once. My primary joy is modelling + painting so i buy a lot of stupid shit, maybe one day i'll have enouigh to do a multitude of games, but until then I have a hard time seeing why someone should vest so much money and time.
Zvezda's model line is primarily based on the tanks at Kubinka museum, which is primarily eastern-bloc stuff, most of their postwar stuff is Soviet designs, and a couple American and French pieces captured in Vietnam. To my knowledge no German gear made after 1945 is at Kubinka.
I don't really expect anyone to buy into a dozen different games I just would like to get people to occasionally try a different system or something. What can I say, there's a handful of skirmish games I'm interested in at least trying to break up playing basically the same game week after week.
I mean, I absolutely feel you and agree. I too like to diversify. I just don't see it practically happening :P
Otherwise, do you think I could properly run an army with the models I posted or would they be too fragile?
Zvezda did make an M1 Abrams kit, but well it's definitely quite obvious that they can't do tanks not in Kubinka as well as the ones that are...
https://metrohobbies.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/700x700/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/Z/V/ZV7405_3.jpg
Seriously this is it. I can only guess they based it on the Soviet intelligence documents on the Abrams from the first gulf war.
I like Zvezda models for the fact that they are perfect fit onto Matchbox cars that I use in conversion for Gaslands and even my own game system I abandoned.
Also, Caesar Miniatures are alright provider of 1/72 minis. My only problem with them is that they keep discontinuing stuff that I like - their Ch'in Dynasty is prefect for my Romance of Three Kingdoms Wargame, but of course they decided to discontinue that (the other 2 Ancient Chinese sets lack crossbows).
As for people playing other games, it's mostly about lack of people playing other games. It's hard enough for people to make time for their games, even learning other systems is overwhelming for some. Sure, you can use ANY model in Rogue Stars and it's a fun game (until someone breaks it hard or tries to use melee), but the list of modifiers seems overwhelming, especially if you're trying to remember all of the from BA or 40k. Or hey, I remember most rules for 40k (8th, sorta 5th/6th), BA, X-Wing (1st Ed., 2nd Ed. is too much of a clusterfuck to convert to), and Armada. For most people, that would be already overwhelming.
CA has done wonders for Deathwatch. Cheaper Intercessors, free Stalker Bolt Rifles, free Bolt Pistols, and some sturdy Veterans with 2pt stormshields. My DW battalion detachment dropped 150 points just from the wargear. Wish they made the Infernus Heavy Bolter not garbage but oh well.
I threw together an AdMech list the other day to see how the points would change and it went from 2015 to like ~1680.
@Notrabies I'm wrapping up my current batch of Renegades so I took some photos for you.
First, paint the model as normal, with the lens in your normal metallic colors.
https://i.imgur.com/1WkmT05.jpg
Second, water down some light orange, and brush it into/onto the lenses. If the lenses are recessed, make sure to get the sides, so the whole thing is filled in. This might take a couple of coats, depending on geometry. I used Vallejo Model Color Light Orange.
https://i.imgur.com/c07eK2c.jpg
Third, put a dot of white in the middle of each lens. If it's a really big lens, like the targeter light on my Leman Russ, then I'll do an intermediate step of 50/50 Light Orange/White, but here just going straight to white will work fine.
https://i.imgur.com/Qg56cY8.jpg
Fourth, mix up a viscous but transparent orange wash, darker than the Light Orange you started with. I just use a 50/50 mix of Vallejo Model Color Transparent Orange and water, but you could probably do this with a mix of paint, water, and glaze medium.
The technique here is key: slop it onto the lens, completely covering/filling it, then tap your brush to a paper towel to get the rest off. Use the brush to gradually wick away the wash until it just reveals the dots added in the previous step. You can call it done at this point.
https://i.imgur.com/j7m0ZIS.jpg
Lastly, I always finish the model with an even coating of AK Interactive Ultra Matte to dull the finish and smooth out transitions, and that IMO is what really helps it pop. I'll have photos of the finished models in a couple of hours.
For your plasma guns, do you do the white on the raised ribs of the gun, somewhere else, or not at all? I'm mostly planning to use this on my Titanicus plasma weapons, as I think it'll balance well against the blue and green of the rest of the model.
Ah- so on all the plasma guns so far, I just basecoated white and then did successive washes of the 50/50 Transparent Orange/water until I was happy with the color. This technique will definitely work on plasma guns; I've just done it on my commander's plasma pistol so I'll have pics up in an hour or so.
I'm jealous both of your collection and your ability to paint it consistently. Awwwweesome stuff
Your painting skill blows me away every damn time.
So despite GW playing up Haarken Worldclaimer leading up to Vigilus he's actually not at all relevant for 90% of the first campaign book. He just shows up at the end and spooks people. I'm surprised GW didn't wait until pt. 2 to release him but I guess they wanted a Chaos release to come out alongside Primaris Calgar.
On that note he does come with a countdown
https://youtu.be/94rLbC4s-2w
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Pretty much everything is just basecoat -> one highlight -> wash the whole model, I just rely on Black Glaze (as the wash) and AK Interactive Ultra Matte (as a final varnish). I firmly maintain that anyone can do what I've done for these models, and I'm happy to help out if you have any questions regarding achieving it for yourself.
Having the patience to go through and highlight everything is a skill all on it's own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TLWQSFWB2k
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