• TF2 General Chat and Speculation Station V14 - The Bargaining Stage
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This doesn't really get me excited personally. The vast majority of other stores/launchers don't even try to compete with the features of Steam (pretty much just GOG Galaxy) and just compete by making it the only place you can get their game. I'm sure the 12% cut is exciting for developers and publishers but I imagine that we'll see few to no games pass those savings on to consumers so I just can't get all that excited about it. I also have to wonder what happens if the popularity of Fortnite decreases? When you factor in credit card processing fees, worldwide content servers, employees and all those sort of fun costs of running a business I can't imagine Epic is making a huge amount of profit on stuff sold on the store. Will they increase their cut eventually if the Fortnite train slows down? Who knows. It's an interesting development anyway. If we do get a better Steam in the long run because of it that's cool.
What makes you think Epic won't make their storefront feature complete? They're a very ambitious studio right now, and they're thinking long-term, unlike Valve, which only seems to operate on whims and naive startup idealism.
why do we expect valve to change at all when they're wholly focused on the one thing none of its competitors come close in; VR.
VNN's video fails to acknowledge some stuff in terms of "making valve pay" first and foremost, old time users aren't going to jump into a new store just because it will given people a better revenue off their sales. Epic is far from being a "steam killer" and the thing itself is far from even being a thing. i'm pretty sure epic doesn't want to take it as such because, much like "tf2 killers" if you try to take a well stablished service with a well stablished userbase you're bound to crash and burn. the sole fact that people have over 100 titles on their steam library will make them think twice and thrice before jumping shit, and for the most part people is actually happy with steam. Discord knew this and it does not try to compete with steam at all, even though they offer a nice deal in terms of revenue and have a big userbase as well. Steam's marketplace saturation isn't entirely valve's fault either: the fact that anyone can upload their game to steam for just $100 is a testament to the times we live in where anyone can develop a game due to the free access to the tools needed to do so. if anything it is a platform that granted the ability to distribute all these games to millions with relative ease, where prior to it it was a rather obscure process completely negated to anyone who wasn't a big studio. its going to take Epic's store some years before they can even reach the status steam as a service has now, so i would hardly see it as the promised land because Desura offered the same exact thing and well, desure is now defunct. all in all, options are always a nice thing to have and I sincerely hope that I can live up to the service and size steam offers.
Im pretty sure all the other launcher aside from GOG had and will never have intentions to compete with Steam in any way and is just there to make as much money with least amount of work Epic on the other handas far as I can tell is going to actually compete with steam and they already have some interesting improvements proposed over Steam even if thats something that doesnt directly effect the end users Plus they already have some kind of experience with online store and Fortnite isnt the only thing they do, so hopefully they will be able to maintain their storefront for a long time So you know, hope it works out well for them
they just killed off the next unreal tournament for more fortnite farts.
Somehow I'm getting this nagging feeling Epic's store will go the way of Origin and gog and itch.io and gamejolt and discord and
Gog's store is fine Itch.io is not a serious competitor for anything Never heard of gamejolt Discord is just looking to make money, not compete
if two companies are trying to make money and adress the same audience, they are competing.
idk. do any of these stores actually have a pull that even means people would want to use it I mean discords exclusives are pretty much laughable and origin is EA stuff so I mean that's definitely on a downward trend epic do pose some sort of challenge purely because they have the biggest game right now
To be fair UT4 had no monetization since it first launched afaik and the development somewhat relied on community while fortnite made billions doing its own thing They already killed Paragon for Fortnite's success, and im surprised they didnt do the same for UT alot sooner
I don't see epic's approach to be any different or better than the other ones, you can't expect them to launch with anywhere near the full features of steam, out of all companies that could compete with valve, only EA got the money to do it, and only Discord got the user base to have a chance to compete, no one will switch to a platform by themselves when all their friends are on steam, and a great number of people won't buy a game unless it's on Steam, and when a game is available on multiple store, just about everyone buys it on Steam, unless they're planning to dedicate years of their time to catch up, they don't stand a chance
UT was just a fever dream fueled by the nostalgia of a few casual devs and a bunch of fans. if UT was to be futher developed it would had been Lawbreakers 2: electric bogaflop.
I said they're thinking long-term, why is everyone disputing whether or not this service will compete i the short-term? Of course it won't, these things take time. Also, Epic Games is valued at around 15 billion dollars right now, which places them firmly above Electronic Arts.
They're also launching their market on Android, do you think they have a chance against Google play? I don't know why you're optimistic about this, I don't see this being anything more than luring devs that are using their engine to be on their platform, and potentially only release there, though I doubt a large number of devs will do that
So uh. Anyone think we’ll get a smissmass update this year? This has been a year entirely without a major update so far. Halloween was incorrectly labeled as one by the wiki, providing only cosmetics and zero content additions or balance changes besides limited maps that are no longer playable. Historically the update has been the week before Christmas, this year the 17th through the 21st. I personally rather doubt it, seeing as development of this game has seemingly ended since the last patch several months ago.
I suppose I was wrong about EA net worth, but EA also didn't even try very hard with Origin, and they make shortsighted decisions on the daily (Battlefront II, Battlefield V, doubling down on loot boxes). Why are you so pessimistic about this? Do you still have misplaced loyalty toward Valve or Steam? Even if Steam has an intimidating install base, it isn't very difficult for customers to simply launch their legacy games collection through another client much as Steam allows you to do now with other launchers. Steam is far from indomitable--no product is--and I don't foresee Valve being capable of reacting to a serious contender unless they reorganize themselves.
Not ended, just with two programmers trying to handle a game this large.
No.
No, but I don't hate Valve, and when talking specifically about online store fronts, they've done the best job in my experience I'm not saying Valve is indomitable, just saying that it will be very hard to contest them as shown by the many that tried to, and we've not seen anything special regarding what Epic is doing that implies they will do better (other than being possibly better for games using Unreal engine) but even that, keep in mind that devs are seeking profit, not the highest share, and in the current time, not releasing on Steam and instead opting for the higher share of profit will net less profit in the end
https://i.imgur.com/zln5kAC.png he can't keep getting away with it
In every single case, yes. Why does ASIC even play TF2? Seems like Fortnite would be a better fit for the guy.
Same reason why people jump into team games and leave when they're not being catered too, which often leads to his team getting screwed over in the process. You'd think they'd stop playing Team oriented games and stick to single player or online free for all type games instead where they don't need to rely on teammates int he first place. "OH shit, we lost the first point. Well **** you all I'm out of here losers".
at this point I'm not sure we're even allowed to express negative things about teamfortress lest you get ganged on by apogists
No one has ganged up on Kaiga for that post so far.
Any of y'all have access to that vid of the demoman getting ubered while missing absolutely every shot with his stickies and pipes, whiffing his melee, and and ending up capping the final point, all of this with rock music playing?
pshh dont take the victim role from 'em despite the fact that most people very much agree
i feel like i have seen this literal exact same post before
That's the same post that I originally found this video from back then
honestly that vid should also benamed "default cl_interp"
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