For some reason my nephew's father gave my nephew a 6th edition Tyranid codex. His father doesn't play 40k or know anything about it and my nephew has never been exposed to it before now either. So I have no idea how or why this happened.
My nephew will be a guardsman damn it. Damn space bugs.
The only good bug is a dead bug. Hoo-ah!
Just watch Starship Troopers with him.
odd choice. Personally, unless you *know* what faction you like from say, the video games? Then in most cases I'd go with Space Marines. I bought this 1v1 set for a kid I know and encouraged him in that direction. He ended up choosing an aqua-blue for his chapter color. Hey, so long as it aint yellow - I hate trying to paint yellow.
Disclaimer: I main Orks
space marines 🤢
https://youtu.be/h67R-sfff9g
Last day for it but there's a discount on games, including some 40k strategy games, on Slitherine/Matrix. I haven't seen much of a lot of them but from what I have they seem decent enough.
That's partially why I suggested SMs, too. They're an army that I knew was balanced (Remember: I main orks and the previous codex - so not this one - was shit aside from a few good units like Flash Gitz) and there are a ton of ways to play them. Hero focused, Elite focused, you can do a kinda-horde army if you run them as Templars or focus on running the equivalent of an armored company.
Although he does have some Orks in the set too, and you better believe at some point that I'll show him the age-old tricks of converting plastic tanks found on Amazon into proper battlewagons.
I used to think Space Marines were boring but after reading Horus Heresy I rather like them now. They still aren't my favorite faction but if I ever do buy more mini's/find people to play with, I'll probably make an SM army.
Well, he is playing them as a Ultramarines successor if his color scheme of aqua-blue is any indication. Thankfully not UMs proper.
Also helps that I had - for some strange reason - a set of five terminators on sprue. I have no idea why, maybe I wanted to turn them into Meganobz. More for him though
ah yes, space marines, the faction so balanced they've needed exclusive beta rules and yearly injections of new units to pretend to be viable past specific spam/HQ deathstar builds
game effectiveness aside, you're asking them to potentially conmit hundreds if not thousands of dollars into buying, painting, and investing in an army that they just may not like at all
there is no one army that will please everyone
you cannot force space marines on every new player and expect it to work every time
While he has some blue swatches of his own, he's mostly using my paints too. Also seems to enjoy it - finding him a set of Scouts which he believes compliments his playstyle.
okay, cool, it works for your sample size of one
but overall actually asking them what they like and making tailored recommendations instead of "ok play space marines lol" is gonna work out a lot better
Also his set *did* have some Orks. Which is swell, because I'd love showing him how to do conversions, turning a 10 doller tank designed for green army men into a battlewagon by adding plasticard plating.
did some drawing yesterday
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1884/73ffbd52-9c98-4059-8046-5dba39cff9fa/image.png
...you and I have not been talking about the same thing for the last four post
https://youtu.be/d-B8-kt3jl4
Well actually there is one more point I want to make. He's young, like in his early teens. The set I got for him was a starter set that was released late 7th edition but had a simplified version of the rules - moot point now due to the mass condensing. The sets a bit weird because it has 5 tactical marines, a drednaught and … one terminator. If I were to have him choose an army flat out, I kinda would want to steer him away from the more evil choices, and what's left would end up being colored by my biases - used to seeing Necrons as their third edition Skynet-Cyberdyne slaves of the star gods, not a personal fan of the Tau and while I find the Eldar interesting I woulden't want to play as them and I doubt the Kid would either.
The color scheme of aqua-blue (which was his choice - I told him to pick any main color *except for yellow* due to the difficulty of painting yellow) was his choice. Does doom him a bit for playing as an Ultramarines successor, although in this realm he's favoring an HQ choice that *is* an Ultramarines one, so it balances out.
you've just been sharing anecdotes instead of making any arguments against my points, but okay, you do you
Okay, so I've been eyeing warhammer for awhile but I gotta ask.
How do I get into the actual tabletop side of things?
Mai, Spehs Hreens are literally the most generic and boring faction to try out - they are perfect for trying out the game if you have very little experience with it. You get units that are not extremely good at something, but are generally okay at anything they do. Hell, they can also work by allowing for a pretty easy conversion to CSM As far as I am concerned, it's the best way to introduce game mechanics over other factions, as they sorta have their hard gimmicks:
Imperial Guard, Tau (Long Range, Squishy)
Ork, Tyranids (Swarms Surrounding Big Monsters/Characters)
Sisters (Marines but Gimmicky and Impossible to Buy)
Eldar (Gimmicky, Squishy)
Meanwhile, Space Marines are solid dudes that can move, hit in range, hit in melee. They are by no calculations the best or even really a good faction - but they provide a nice, solid entry point into 40k as a Tabletop wargame.
Now, the fact that you have to majorly invest into a faction, is GW's fault of it's own.
Have friends
Have lots and lots and lots of money to buy yourself and your friends starter sets
read all the things
read all the things for your faction of choice
get with a local gaming group and spend more money and time
get an SO or other real world type set of commitments and realize exactly how much you're spending of both time and money
have an existential crisis
(also find your local GW store, most in the UK are pretty ace)
Got 2 friends really interested in 40K, 1 of them loves the aesthetics of the Necrons which is convenient as I have an old (~70%)unpainted Necron army I can give him.
Other friend is really into the idea of a swarm army and is split between the aesthetics of Daemons and Tyranids.
She loves the idea of just throwing bugs at people, but also just loves Daemon aesthetic in general and can't decide between the two of them.
Anyone know a way to summarise how Daemons and Tyranids would play compared to each other in terms of swarm?
I can't even remember how viable Daemons are on their own without chaos space marines.
Afik Daemons in 40k are awful on their own unless you run Nurgle and spam plaguebearers.
Did you use a reference pic or do it from scratch? Because either way that looks gloriously old-school.
from scratch:
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1884/d1005c97-4770-447d-acf2-a5726ec5e120/image.png
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1884/c5216722-60c4-413b-bd5e-33cdd06623ce/image.png
That's fucking ace.
I saw someone post it on Instagram attributing it to "Unknown Artist", I'll make sure they know it was you.
Jesus your art is amazing and I want to take lessons from you
Find a theme for an army and roll with it. When I first got into tabletop, I wanted to have Halo miniatures inspired by this.
https://youtu.be/JnWzrHa_WsI
Did anyone figure out what this was supposed to tease? Is it the same as the "contrast" thing?
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