Colonialisation. A forum RP. Try not to catch Malaria. - Games

Damn it guys. I gotta get in on this too.

One thing, how do private colonies work? Can you set your own laws for them?

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;35587349]One thing, how do private colonies work? Can you set your own laws for them?[/QUOTE] Sure, as long as your people follow them and your military enforces them.

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35587085]Oh shit. Ven's got Maple Syrup again.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2010/11/reaction.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;35587506]Sure, as long as your people follow them and your military enforces them.[/QUOTE] But isn't it under my company's crown? Or it's already a new nation?

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;35587844]But isn't it under my company's crown? Or it's already a new nation?[/QUOTE] It's on the other side of the sea. You are mostly free to do your own thing until these colonies grow into national entities. However the governance of the lands will be more democratic than Crown colonies.

We should all rise up against the crowns at once. Every single one of us. And then play each other's motherland off of each other. British colonies getting help from France, French colonies getting help from Spain, and Spanish colonies getting help from Britain :v:

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35588162]We should all rise up against the crowns at once. Every single one of us. And then play each other's motherland off of each other. British colonies getting help from France, French colonies getting help from Spain, and Spanish colonies getting help from Britain :v:[/QUOTE] Your* taxes are now at 100%, now kiss the ring.

No :v:

I say someone contaminates the maple syrup with dysentery or small pox or whatever you had and it contaminates half the nobility.

Leave my maple syrup alone ): also I'm renaming it "Dublin Slick". I hope it catches on.

Already plotting world chaos and conquest? The spirit of E&R leaves no man it seems

[b]Nova Orbis: Anno Domini 1512[/b] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/gLoKN.png[/img_thumb] Players: Mr Face - England (Crown Colony) - (Red, Newfoundland) Mountainwatcher – Portugal (Private Colony) - (Green, Recife) Van Kaeo - England (Private Colony) - (Shamrock Green, Southern Ontario) Kamikaze - France (Private Colony) - (Blue, Puerto Rico, Northern Venezuela) Ruskie – France (Crown Colony) - (Dark blue, Uruguay) EVENTS OF 1508-1512 -The Wheellock pistol is invented, possibly in Germany. -Emigration to the new world has started to increase massively at the end of this time. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Flag_of_Milan.svg/300px-Flag_of_Milan.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of England – Mr Face, Van Kaeo[/b] -Henry 7th dies, and his son Henry 8th ascends to the throne. With the war of the league of Cambrai ongoing, he takes declares war on France to expand his holdings. He hears of the success of the colonies, and demands that they export more exotic goods to show the wealth of the country. [b][I]English Crown Colony – Mr Face[/I][/b] -Support is drummed up in the villages of England to provide colonists for the Newfoundland fisheries. A number comes from malaria prone areas, but due to the cool climate in Newfoundland the disease does not yet spread. -Collaboration with the Irish company begins, and trading between the two colonies begins in earnest. Fish is sold to the Irish in return for goods such as tobacco or maple syrup. The inevitable addiction drives demand ever higher. -A small exploration group is sent to Maine, they collect information on the area and winter in one of the bays before returning. A native settlement was discovered, but it had been abandoned for several years and was clearly overgrown. -Cod fishing increases ever higher as the seas seem to have endless quantities of the fish. Fishing villages spring up on the Newfoundland coasts, and a shipbuilding industry is forced to emerge in order to repair and build the fishing boats. -Fur trading starts to increase in popularity as well, with some colonists trading manufactured goods for furs. [img]http://i.imgur.com/DSJwf.gif[/img] [b][I]Helical Medicinal Solutions – Van Keao[/I][/b] -Colonists are recruited from the Irish villages, and now from Scottish ones too. The Scottish monarch begins to collaborate with the company in return for imports of the goods from the new world. -Drinking “Tobacco smoke” becomes popular in Dublin, as the craze begins to spread across Europe. In response, the company starts to plant tobacco plantations in Ontario for export. -Exploration of the great lakes continue, but the ongoing smallpox epidemic makes the explorers wary of venturing inland. -The colonists try desperately to treat the smallpox, but despite all their medical knowledge it is little better than letting them die. -The apiary starts to expand and to produce honey, but the wax is prized much more. -The company demands that potatoes, maize, wheat, rice and cotton be planted. Whilst African rice and wheat is planted, nobody knows what the hell potatoes or maize is, the company is informed cotton cannot grow there due to the climate. -A trading post is set up on the St Patrick river, which boats stop at on their way from and to New Dublin, the natives start trading here in small numbers. -New Dublin now has several hundred residents, and despite disease and malnutrition and cold winters, the colony gradually grows. The natives offer little resistance as they fall to diseases brought by the mostly Gaelic immigrants. -Maple syrup begins to be exported to Ireland under the name “Dublin Slick”. -The Irish people begin to jump onto the colony bandwagon, along with the Scots. -Fur trading starts to increase in popularity as well, with some colonists trading manufactured goods for furs. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Flag_Portugal_%281495%29.svg/320px-Flag_Portugal_%281495%29.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of Portugal – Mountainwatcher.[/b] -Tobacco smoke drinking becomes popular in Lisbon, and the habit spreads to Spain from there. [img]http://i.imgur.com/u5WHm.png[/img] [b][I]Companhia das Quinas Americanas - Mountainwatcher[/I][/b] -Brazilwood production begins to steadily increase, with dyes and musical instruments made from the wood proving especially popular exports. Rivers are explored along the coasts and scouted for suitable locations for trading posts. -As the population begins to gradually increase with harvesting of wood, the colonists begin to slowly push the natives inland. -To keep relations with the natives, salted cod is given to them as gifts. They enjoy it, but losing their homes and land proves to be a displeasurable nonetheless. -Sugar plantations begin to be set up and are extremely productive, but there is an acute labour shortage that effectively makes them useless. The natives are unwilling to work of their own free will on the plantations, and there are too few settlers willing to work in sugar production. -Tobacco planting begins, and exports begin to trickle back to Portugal. The Nobility crave even more, and the habit has now spread to even more people. The increase in demand forces the sugar plantations to be abandoned due to the bigger profits made from tobacco. -With profits clearly noted, investors rush to put their money into the company. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Flag_of_New_Spain.svg/200px-Flag_of_New_Spain.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of Spain - [/b] -Tobacco smoke drinking becomes popular, prompting tobacco plantations to be set up in the colonies. -The Board of Navigators meet in Burgos and state the need to colonize the mainland, which is entrusted to Alonso de Ojeda and Diego de Nicuesa as governors subordinated to the governor of Hispaniola. -A colony is established on the easternmost point of Cuba. -African slaves begin to be imported into the colonies by the Spanish, which has begun to alleviate the labour shortage. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Pavillon_royal_de_la_France.svg/200px-Pavillon_royal_de_la_France.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of France – Kamikaze, Ruskie[/b] -The Italian wars break out again, and the Pope formally gets rid of the Treaty of Tordesillas in return for French assistance. With this, any Catholic power is now legally able to colonise in the New World. Despite this, relations break down anyways and the French ally with the Venetians. [b][i]French Crown colony – Ruskie[/i][/b] -The king provides a small number of troops to help hold the fort, instructing the colonel to claim the land before the Spanish do. -The army in the fort start to explore outside, driving away natives with ease due to the flat plains that permit rapid movement, clear fire and a good view. -There are few trees to exploit for building purposes, limiting construction and expansion. The reproduction of trees and their spread is too slow for European purposes. -Agriculture does fairly well however, with the extensive pasture proving excellent for rearing livestock. Cattle, sheep, goats, horses and a multitude of other animals do well here. -The military force marches from village to village, killing the inhabitants, raping the women, taking some into slavery, and stealing anything of note. -The slaves are used to help tend the farms around the fort, and by 1512 the fort finally becomes self sufficient. A shantytown grows around it composed mainly of natives that survive slavery and disease. [img]http://i.imgur.com/XM6BF.jpg[/img] [b][i]Nouvelle-France – Kamikaze[/i][/b] -A number of colonists are brought over to bolster existing numbers, and to establish a new colony in Northern Venezuela. -The Venezuelan colony is established, but Spanish and native raids begin in the area, making it difficult to survive there, especially with the chronic labour shortage. -The governer of the colony of Jean Baptiste orders an armed convoy this time composing of several ships outfitted with heavy culverins, when an Spanish raid is attempted a Franco-Arawak alliance manages to drive off the Spanish. A counter attack stops a supply ship and subsequently cannibalises it. -Various trading goods are sold to the natives in return for knowledge and farming techniques with new crops and existing ones on the island. -Sugar planting begins on Jean Baptiste, but the natives or Europeans are mostly unwilling to work in this back breaking enterprise. The climate is noted to be good, but there is far too little spare labour able to maintain the plantations. -An uneasy peace is established as one of the treaties of the War of the League of Cambrai. France is to be allowed to colonise on the condition that they do not go any further west than Hispaniola. [b]Ecological events[/b] -The outbreaks of Smallpox, Measles, etc begin to ruin North America. Communities are destroyed within weeks and the resulting vacuum leads to political and civil collapse. The survivors manage to scrape a living and recover, but the annual burning of forests once traditional starts to come to a close. -Forests in North America, aided by the introduction of the bee and lack of burning causes forests to rapidly regrow and many abandoned settlements are lost in the thick woods. -Escaped mammals from the settlers in North America flourish in this new landscape, and cause further damage to the ecology of the land. Pigs especially, for the tuckahoe which the natives need in times of famine are readily consumed by the swine. -By 1512, the Tarascan empire has begun to suffer from the disease. -The Caribbean societies continue to decline steadily, the Arawak population of Hispaniola has declined to under 50,000. A tenth of what it was 20 years ago. -The pasture lands of Uruguay are now awash with European mammals, the diseases introduced have driven off most natives, and the animals continue to breed. Some natives have begun to capture these animals and utilise them for their own purposes. -The planting of tobacco has begun to suck nutrients from the soil in Recife, leaving the ground to be only good for wheat planting and pasture in crop rotation. The demand for land to plant tobacco has begun to push the colonists gradually inland, following the stumps of the Brazilwood trees. [b]Music of 1508-1512 - Wer gnad durch klaff - Arnolt Schlick[/b] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPpfL5Ztflw[/media] Send in new turns please. Use this format for commands. [Quote] Motherland actions: (Try to get investors, colonists, royal support, etc) Exploration actions: (Where to explore, how to explore, etc) Colony actions: (Establishment, expansion, economic focus, etc) Foreign affairs: (Interacting with native groups, criminals, pirates, foreign governments, etc.) [/quote] If a new player, use this in additon. [quote] Kingdom/Nation: Headquarters: Company name: Company flag: (Only private companies may have flags/names, crown colonies fly the flag of the Motherland) [/quote] Send this to me via PM. Please send in all turns titled as "Kingdom/Company name - Turn 4 - Playername"

All of the private colonies: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8[/media]

Only Mountainwatcher has sent in his turn so far.

Let's break the record guys, 2 turns in one day-

Typical. You wait all day for somebody to send in a turn, then 2 people send in theirs at the same time.

:v:

Kamikaze is left to send in their turn. Turn will be posted at 11:00pm GMT by latest.

Giving this a shot, sent a PM. Actually question; does claiming an area already held by your kingdom convert the area to your control, or do you need to pick somewhere else?

Everybody has their turn in. New players have until 10:30pm to send in a turn.

10:30 what region?

[b]Nova Orbis: Anno Domini 1516[/b] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/3PKvP.png[/img_thumb] Players: Mr Face - England (Crown Colony) - (Red, Newfoundland) Mountainwatcher – Portugal (Private Colony) - (Green, Recife) Van Kaeo - England (Private Colony) - (Shamrock Green, Southern Ontario) Kamikaze - France (Private Colony) - (Blue, Puerto Rico, Northern Venezuela) Ruskie – France (Crown Colony) - (Dark blue, Uruguay) Canuhear – Spain (Private Colony) – (Dark Yellow, Cuba) EVENTS OF 1512-1516 -Thomas More publishes Utopia. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Flag_of_Milan.svg/300px-Flag_of_Milan.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of England – Mr Face, Van Kaeo[/b] -Scotland invades England, but is severely crushed at the Battle of Flodden, English and Scottish relations sour as a result immensely. [b][I]English Crown Colony – Mr Face[/I][/b] -Concerned about malaria, infected people are discouraged from coming. Symptoms of the disease can lie dormant for a long time however, and a number still get sick in the New World. Quarantine is used instead, which helps to slow the diseases progress down. -More sturdy ships are chosen for voyages instead, and at some expense the caravels are slowly replaced by carracks, which in turn become increasingly larger and better suited as shipyards start working on the new vessels. -A colony is set up in Maine, which sets about to the business of fishing. By 1516 both colonies have grown large enough to warrant the creation of a colonial military force and the colonel is granted status as governor of the colonies of Newfoundland. -Cod fishing is halted to prevent overfishing, but most ignore this request due to the relative abundance in the seas compared to European fish stocks. -Natives are contacted again to try and pry information from them and as potential trading partners. [img]http://i.imgur.com/DSJwf.gif[/img] [b][I]Helical Medicinal Solutions – Van Keao[/I][/b] -More colonists are recruited from the Irish and Scots, but increasing diplomatic pressure forces the King to ban Scottish colonists. -More tobacco is planted, which unfortunately exhausts the soil after enough time. The colonists push further inland to compensate as the colony grows. -Corq grows from a trading post into a collection of hamlets scattered along the St Patrick river, taking advantage of declining native populations. -Attempts at planting beans, squash, onions, peppers and peas are met with mixed success. Some of these plants do not exist, whilst others die due to the cold climate. -Attempts at potato cultivation fail, due to nobody knowing what the hell they are. -Maple plantations increase in size to continue exports of Dublin slick, it becoming popular to have mixed with beer whilst smoking a pipe. -Apple orchards begin to be set up too, with cider produced with intention for export. Most cider ends up drunken by English fishermen in Newfoundland. -The apiary’s continue to produce plentiful amounts of honey and wax. -The colony does extremely well for the most part, but this year the crops mature slightly later than usual. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Flag_Portugal_%281495%29.svg/320px-Flag_Portugal_%281495%29.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of Portugal – Mountainwatcher.[/b] -Tobacco smoke drinking has spread to most people in Portugal, driving prices extremely high. The crown decides to start taxing this commodity and says that any attacks on their tobacco convoys will be met with extreme hostility. [img]http://i.imgur.com/u5WHm.png[/img] [b][I]Companhia das Quinas Americanas - Mountainwatcher[/I][/b] -With good profits from exported goods, wages for the colonists are increased. A number are convinced to work on the sugar plantations, but the great majority still clamour for the vastly more profitable tobacco. -Doctors are hired and brought over to the colonies to help tend to the colonists and prevent illnesses. Some of the medical supplies are purchased from the Irish. -Coastal exploration continues, but explorers become wary after the natives are noted to have smallpox and measles. -Brazilwood production collapses after the natives are incapacitated by smallpox. Sugar production is shortly affected too along with tobacco. -Despite the death toll, more colonists flock to the new settlements, grabbing land that natives used to hold before the disease killed them. The population increase warrants the expansion and construction of fortifications. -New colonies are set up with the profits. One colony is established north of the French Kings colony, and another in Suriname. -The company tries to be friendly towards natives, but disease is severely hampering diplomacy. -With the natives dead, and existing tobacco fields exhausted, the colonists push inland, leaving the old tobacco fields to be used as pasture. -Due to most investment in expansion, coupled with disease, the profit increase is negligible this year. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Flag_of_New_Spain.svg/200px-Flag_of_New_Spain.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of Spain - Canuhearme[/b] -A new company is set up in Spain to take advantage of affairs in the New World. Investors rush to put money into the company as interest in the bizarre continent grows. -A Few Venetian privateers sail to the Caribbean, and start to raid Spanish and French coastal villages. -French shipping is now declared to be fair game by the Spanish King for attack, despite peace treaties in Europe. -In 1516, Charles the 5th is crowned. He is ruler of Spanish, Habsburg and Burgundian possessions. -Vasco Núñez de Balboa crosses Panama and becomes the first European to see the Pacific Ocean, he wisely claims all of the lands that the ocean touched for Spain. -Florida is discovered and partially explored. -Orange orchards in Hispaniola die out, and Santo Domingo is abandoned after fire ants overrun the colony. [img]http://i.imgur.com/yDuHZ.png[/img] [b][i]El gremio de comerciantes en el Nuevo Mundo – Canuhearme[/i][/b] -The company sets sail immediately for West Africa, and after arriving in Arguin manage to strike up a deal with the local rulers. Aequebuses will be sold to them in return for a large number of slaves and some exotic animals. -The King grants Cuba to the company for use, with the company setting up their headquarters there. The colonists start to plant tobacco and some sugar around the colony. -The arrival of slaves and some indentured servants prove to be immensely successful in sugar and tobacco cultivation, with fair exports of the goods back home to Spain. -The declining Arawak population is given gifts in the form of textiles, and are treated fairly. -Despite this, the population continues to decline from disease and raids from other colonies. -With tobacco and sugar proving to grow well, and slaves arriving from Africa to tend the crops, a vast number of ships are chartered by the company to start importing slaves. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Pavillon_royal_de_la_France.svg/200px-Pavillon_royal_de_la_France.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of France – Kamikaze, Ruskie[/b] -A Few Venetian privateers sail to the Caribbean, and start to raid Spanish and French coastal villages. -Spanish shipping is now declared to be fair game by the French King for attack, despite peace treaties in Europe. -He then dies, and is replaced by his son Francis 1st. [b][i]French Crown colony – Ruskie[/i][/b] -The colony asks the French King to send construction materials for the colony, and he obliges, wishing to expand his influence there to counter the efforts of the Habsburgs. -With the construction supplies, the fort grows into a proper colonial town, focused mostly on rearing livestock. Most of the colonists consist of shepherds and cattle ranchers. -The war against the natives continue, although the army is unable to win decisive battles it manages to drive them off for limited periods of time. They return to raid, with which the French respond by building outpost towers on the tops of hills filled with crossbowmen. -A second colony is established further north, but is little more than a glorified collection of barracks and cottages with sheep and cattle roaming about. [img]http://i.imgur.com/XM6BF.jpg[/img] [b][i]Nouvelle-France – Kamikaze[/i][/b] -A mercenary company, consisting mostly of veterans from the Italian wars are hired and shipped to Venezuela to protect the colony. The increasing tension in the area as new colonies appear has lead to raids becoming increasingly common. -Jean Baptiste is expanded massively, with a second fort wall built around the original and a port set up. The increasing population and trade in the area forces greater pressure on the native groups. -The French begin to raid native villages in Venezuela, capturing the natives and shipping them to Jean Baptiste to work in sugar plantations. By 1516 the island is the most productive in sugar, but the mortality rate is atrocious. -Captured Spanish are ransomed by the colony, and in retaliation the Spanish attack Jean Baptiste. They are driven back eventually, and the Spanish decide to send some of the Royal navy over to seize the island. [b]Ecological events[/b] -By 1516, smallpox and measles has spread throughout most of North America, Mesoamerica and now the areas of South America that has been in contact with Europeans. The death toll is truly staggering, and settlements throughout all of the Americas are now being abandoned. -The Earthworm has arrived in Recife, brought by tobacco ships dumping out soil ballast. -The honeybee is spreading throughout North America, aiding the regrowth of forests massively. -The Thames river freezes over in 1514, prompting a fair to be held on the frozen ice. -Glaciers in the Swiss Alps are noted to have begun growing by the inhabitants, and a local bishop is requested to perform a blessing to prevent it from growing further. -The Arawak populations in the Greater Antilles has halved again, and the islands are becoming increasingly desolate places. -The increase of forested areas in the New World is blamed mostly on the humble honeybee, the problem with the increase of plant cover being more carbon dioxide is being sucked from the atmosphere. -A slave ship becomes infected with Malaria, but the infected slaves are thrown overboard before it becomes a great issue. [b]Music of 1512-1516 - El Grillo - Josquin des Prez[/b] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvurnomhvVU[/media] Send in new turns please. Use this format for commands. [Quote] Motherland actions: (Try to get investors, colonists, royal support, etc) Exploration actions: (Where to explore, how to explore, etc) Colony actions: (Establishment, expansion, economic focus, etc) Foreign affairs: (Interacting with native groups, criminals, pirates, foreign governments, etc.) [/quote] If a new player, use this in additon. [quote] Kingdom/Nation: Headquarters: Company name: Company flag: (Only private companies may have flags/names, crown colonies fly the flag of the Motherland) [/quote] Send this to me via PM. Please send in all turns titled as "Kingdom/Company name - Turn 5 - Playername"

Fuck you, Mr. King. I'll have Scottish colonists if I fucking want. [editline]16th April 2012[/editline] Also I said "find Potatoes" not "Cultivate/Grow" potatoes

[quote]They are driven back eventually, and the Spanish decide to send some of the Royal navy over to seize the island.[/quote] No Spain, no! Save me Jesus!

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35599220]Fuck you, Mr. King. I'll have Scottish colonists if I fucking want. [editline]16th April 2012[/editline] Also I said "find Potatoes" not "Cultivate/Grow" potatoes[/QUOTE] Want to know where you can find potatoes? [i][b]FUCKING PERU[/b][/i]

And already tensions rise. [IMG]http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/dis-gon-b-gud.gif[/IMG]

I got a question which would be better answered here, since it could be assumed to be common knowledge; is it more profitable to grow Sugarcane (and thus turn it into sugar and/or rum,) or Tobacco in the Caribbean? Also I'm getting some interesting ideas where to go with my company, but they're multi-turn plans so we'll just have to see.

I don't like ruskie being so close to my colony.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;35599562]I got a question which would be better answered here, since it could be assumed to be common knowledge; is it more profitable to grow Sugarcane (and thus turn it into sugar and/or rum,) or Tobacco in the Caribbean? Also I'm getting some interesting ideas where to go with my company, but they're multi-turn plans so we'll just have to see.[/QUOTE] Both are quite profitable. Sugar much moreso, but that requires a larger labour force to grow and produce it. If you import slaves and produce sugar, it will make more money than tobacco. Bear in mind that your actions may have worldwide repercussions. Van Kaeo has already indirectly killed millions of natives, and his honeybees are pollinating everything in North America. A reverse greenhouse effect is now happening as a result, explaining the growing glaciers in the Alps and the Thames freezing over.