Colonialisation. A forum RP. Try not to catch Malaria. - Games

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35615938]What no? Potatoes are for eating and alcohol[/QUOTE] >implying potatoes are for eating

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35615952']>implying potatoes are for eating[/QUOTE] Potatoes make excellent ballast for an empty stomach.

Potatoes are goddamn delicious.

And yet, sobotnik is no where to be seen.

[b]Nova Orbis: Anno Domini 1520[/b] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/gKpmE.png[/img_thumb] Players: Mr Face - England (Crown Colony) - (Red, Newfoundland, Maine) Mountainwatcher – Portugal (Private Colony) - (Green, Recife, Suriname, Southern Brazil) Van Kaeo - England (Private Colony) – (Light Red, Southern Ontario) Kamikaze - France (Private Colony) - (Blue, Puerto Rico, Northern Venezuela) Ruskie – France (Crown Colony) - (Dark blue, Uruguay) Canuhear – Spain (Private Colony) – (Dark Yellow, Cuba) Asantos – Portugal (Private Colony) – (Dark Green, Baja California) Player colours have been changed, with some native ones. Players are now represented by a variant of the base colour of their motherland. Original base colour means this is the oldest/main colony of their nation. Portugal (Green) France (Blue) England (Red) Spain (Yellow) GOODS IN DEMAND: New World: Manufactured goods, guns, horses, slaves. Europe: Tobacco, Sugar, precious metals, salted fish, spices, porcelain, silk. Africa: Manufactured goods, guns. Asia: Precious metals, tobacco, sugar. EVENTS OF 1516-1520 -Martin Luther publishes his 95 Theses. The Protestant reformation kicks off. (The broadcast is shitstorm.) -European merchants begin to trade with Chinese ones for the first time. -The treaty of London is signed between all major European nations, partly to curtail the growing Ottoman Empire. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Flag_of_Milan.svg/300px-Flag_of_Milan.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of England – Mr Face, Van Kaeo[/b] -The Treaty of London is signed, bringing temporary peace to Europe. -Scotland becomes beset by political instability after the death of their king, increasing tensions with England mean an increase in border raids. -With increasingly unruliness of the subjects of Wales and Ireland, the King sets about discussing with his ministers on how to best tame these borderlands. [b][I]English Crown Colony – Mr Face[/I][/b] -Ports have grown to the extent that trading of more than fish occurs in Newfoundland, markets become more regular and taxation becomes viable as bartering gives way to monetary trade. -Newfoundland is now the best site for maintaining and building of sea vessels in North America, given that most of the population is engaged in the fishing industry and supporting industries. -Feral livestock is discovered in Maine by various colonists, and subsequently captured for use. -Several explorers are sent around the cape towards what is now called Peru. A large number are forced to turn back (Or perish) due to the long trip. However one ship manages to contact some villages of the Incan empire in (What is now) Chile. -A little trading takes place, with the Incans deciding to amuse the English by showing them a temple that appeared to be made literally of gold. Inside is a golden field with golden maize crops and people. Some gold is gifted to the greedy bastards who return back home talking excitedly about the discovery. -Henry the 8th jumps on the idea that the English have discovered the cities of gold told of in legends, and orders a significant portion of the royal navy and army to be sent to this land. (The name Biru is mistakenly given as the name, for that word in the language of some local natives referred to the direction to travel to the land of gold, and not the name of the land itself. -Existing colonies in Newfoundland and Maine continue to grow extensively, and have now begun to build ships for Irish colonists. Fishermen begin to push onto the uninhabited islands nearby the coast, due in part to increasing trade opportunities that can be gained from passing Irish vessels. -The potato plant is discovered by the explorers, but incorrect preparation of the tuber leads the explorers to believe that it is poisonous. [img]http://i.imgur.com/DSJwf.gif[/img] [b][I]Helical Medicinal Solutions – Van Keao[/I][/b] -Scottish people are still shipped over to the colonies without the company giving a second thought. -Henry 8th demands this stops, and heavily fines the company after a public trial. A local magistrate of Belfast is found guilty of corruption and is executed. -New Dublin forms a legislative assembly to help to manage the growing colony. It meets on June 30th 1520. It is the first of its kind in the New World. -Slaves are imported for the first time from Africa, but are given some wages and treated quite nicely relative to other slaves. A number still die from various causes, but help with the slowly growing labour problem. It still cannot compete on the scale of the French or Spanish colonies however, especially as Tobacco yields begin to gradually decrease. -To solve this problem, more tobacco is planted and more slaves imported. Their conditions begin to gradually decline as the task of looking after them becomes increasingly bothersome. -Cows, Pigs and sheep are imported. Some inevitably escape. The pigs are the only ones to really survive and proliferate anyways. -Deforestation begins, but progress is slow due to the labour being divided up between farming, building, defence, etc. -A shipyard is set up, but produces ships very slowly and of a limited size. The required production facilities for shipbuilding do not yet exist, and demand is quite low at the amount for Europe produces ships much more cheaply, even then, Newfoundland is the main shipbuilder and maintainer in the New World, where the Irish go to repair or buy ships. -Agricultural produce from the colony is sold to the Newfoundland colony in return for salted fish, this is very much appreciated by both parties. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Flag_Portugal_%281495%29.svg/320px-Flag_Portugal_%281495%29.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of Portugal – Mountainwatcher, Asantos.[/b] -Various members of the clergy, nobility and common populace start to protest against the tobacco addiction striking the country. Profits from it are too high however, and complaints are ignored as they have been for centuries. What chance is there of tobacco causing serious harm? -African colonies by this stage are mostly trading posts or sugar plantations ridden with malaria, traders and explorers still struggle to push on eastwards to maintain trade with the east. -The King of Portugal states that the current possessions of Portugal in the New World (Brazil), will now be patrolled by the navy to discourage French colonization. -A new company is set up by a group of investors wishing to cash in the New World craze. [img]http://i.imgur.com/u5WHm.png[/img] [b][I]Companhia das Quinas Americanas - Mountainwatcher[/I][/b] -The company begins to publicise the New World, citing profit returns as much as 1000% for tobacco growers. People continue to flock to the new world. -A labour shortage is noted as increasing. The indentured servants once relied on have begun to gain their freedoms and pay for their own servants, the result is that although immigration is steadily increasing even more, a labour shortage will result in the future. -Wages for sugar planters increase, and a number of labourers work the sugar mills now. These mills however cannot compete very well with the Spanish or French ones. -Expansion occurs at a good rate, and by 1520 the French and Portuguese colonies in Uruguay have begun to trade between themselves. There is some arguments over the borders however as both parties seek to claim even more land. -Trading posts are set up along the coast from Southern Brazil to Suriname, the focus on trying to grab the coast however has resulted in a very sparse distribution of trading posts, a number of which are abandoned due to logistical problems. -Doctors attempt to help treat the natives with their illnesses, but smallpox and measles is still poorly understood by medical science of the time. Deaths continue to climb. [img]http://i.imgur.com/EtppI.jpg[/img] [b][I]Cienia of Niesmiertelni - Asantos[/I][/b] -The company initially set up has decided to sail for the Pacific ocean told of by Spanish explorers. -The convoy trip is awfully long and dangerous, and stays clear of South and Mesoamerica. -Eventually in October 1519, after several attempts to round the cape of Magellan a colony is established at the southern tip of Baja California at La Paz. -The investors demand that talks open with the Spanish to allow Portuguese colonists to pass over Panama. -Some livestock is brought over, but most of it is eaten due to severe hunger suffered by the long trip. -Some slaves are also brought, likewise many die on the voyage. -The fort established at La Paz clings onto existence, with supplies greatly limited and most colonists favouring other colonies for the greater safety. -The rest of the peinsula is explored, but colonists are restricted from leaving the colony. -The Tarascan empire is contacted along with some native tribes, with them barely tolerating the presence of the foreigners. -Attempts to contact pirates fail, for there are none on the Pacific coast. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Flag_of_New_Spain.svg/200px-Flag_of_New_Spain.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of Spain – Canuhearme[/b] -Magellan leaves Spain to circumnavigate the world. -Hernan Cortes arrives in Mexico and marches into the heart of the Aztec Empire. -Panama city is founded. -Armed Spanish patrols begin to move around the southern Caribbean, supposedly protecting Spanish trade but in reality trying to raid French ships. -The first pirates appear in the Caribbean when a Spanish Carrack mutinies and chucks their unpopular captain overboard. Instead of working for the French they raid both and winter up in Maine in an English fishing village. [img]http://i.imgur.com/yDuHZ.png[/img] [b][i]El gremio de comerciantes en el Nuevo Mundo – Canuhearme[/i][/b] -The king is asked to assist in colonial matters in Cuba, with the company offering various exotic goods from Africa, The New world and unrestricted military access. He gladly accepts and starts to invest into the company, followed by a large number of Genoese bankers. -The Spanish royal navy is (Mostly) diverted from French matters to assist with the company setting up in Cuba. -The Spanish colonists eagerly begin to deforest the land, plant tobacco and sugar, and set up mines and quarries. Output is initially low, but begins to gradually improve with the importation of African slaves. -Exploration begins to map out Florida and Jamaica along with the rest of Cuba, attempting to find good locations to set up ports and harbours. And brothels. -A sugar mill and rum distillery is constructed on Cuba, and the focus is put into sugar production mostly. -Malaria and Yellow fever arrives, brought by African slaves. The Spanish begin to die from disease to the delight of the natives and slaves, with a mortality rate of around 30%. Still more colonists continue to come. -To protect against civil unrest, the slaves are segregated from the Spanish in separate fortified camps. This has a slight bonus of marginally reducing disease amongst the Spanish as they tend to keep away from malaria infested areas that the slaves reside in. -Mulberry trees are planted to try and start up silkworm production, but the output is quite poor. Most other colonists instead focus on sugar and (To a lesser extent) tobacco. -Surviving natives are encouraged to come to Spanish colonies to live with the Europeans (A number already doing so). They interbreed with the Spanish and African slaves to an extent. Coupled with various other deaths, their numbers continue to collapse as their old cultures and languages die out. -Some particularly zealous priests begin to fan out over Cuba and soon the New World to convert the natives to Catholicism. -As slave ships visit West Africa ever more, they become heavily armed to account for increasing French and (later) pirate raids. Trade posts become increasing common in Africa. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Pavillon_royal_de_la_France.svg/200px-Pavillon_royal_de_la_France.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of France – Kamikaze, Ruskie[/b] -The French King demands the King of Portugal remove naval patrols from the New World, stating that the 1494 treaty is invalid. -The French King grants his subjects the right to raid Spanish vessels in the New World. [b][i]French Crown colony – Ruskie[/i][/b] -The colony petitions the King for more supplies and colonists, which he gladly does. -Buenos Aires will now be referred to as Pointe De Cette. (And Montevideo as Saint-Cene.) -Attempts to plant sugar in the colony goes rather poorly. Along with an unsuitable climate and weather, the soil fertility is of too poor quality. Some tobacco is planted, but yields are poor. -With the cattle and sheep present, large ranches begin to be set up instead. Leather, beef, diary products, wool and mutton begin to be produced in increasing quantities. With leather and wool being the main exports, those production facilities rapidly begin to grow. English and Flemish merchants have their jimmies rustled when the price of wool begins to decline in the America. -Native agitation increases, with the French military in the area and disease managing to quell most native problems. The French are effectively left to their own affairs, but Portuguese and French shepards, ranchers and farmers begin to argue over the borderlands. -Some grain and other old world crops are planted to help supplement the diet, but livestock helps to provide the lions share of food. -Explorers push ever further north, followed in their footsteps by shepards, ranchers, farmers, traders and harlots. They begin to gradually slow as they make their way upriver, consolidate existing lands and encounter new terrain. [img]http://i.imgur.com/XM6BF.jpg[/img] [b][i]Nouvelle-France – Kamikaze[/i][/b] -Existing plantations continue to grow and expand, making immense profits as the slaves get thinner and their owners get fatter. -The introduction of yellow fever and malaria of course causes some problems, with the French responding by buying even more slaves to combat the growing labour shortage. [b]Ecological/Misc events[/b] -Pigs wreak further mayhem in the New World, eating many tubers and plants relied on by the remaining natives. They grow immensely fat and although keep the Irish (And later English who discover packs of feral pigs) fed they worsen the natives situation. -The Aztec empire becomes incredibly weak due to disease, the arrival of the Spanish pushing it to the brink. -The forests have recovered hugely across the New World in a frenzy of photosynthesis, once open grasslands become forests, and the forests become impenetrable. -Tobacco begins to become less productive in Canada as the climate cools down, along with other crops. The colonists compensate by tilling even more land. -Oak and Hickory, aided by the bumblee, muscle aside Loblolly, Longleaf and Slash Pine, the latter plants needing annual fires to keep reproducing are now moving towards dying out. -Animals once hunted now flourish, some aided by the new mammals that provide food sources. -Other animals are unable to adapt and begin to die out or migrate. -As the temperature begins to gradually decline, Hemlock, Spruce and Beech trees begin to spread southwards or increase in existing areas. -Natives begin to increasingly tame, domesticate and use horses, resulting in an arms race between the surviving tribes to rush for horses (And guns.) -Snowy winters become more common, cooler Mays and Junes have begun to slowly push back French wine harvests. -Copious rain alternating with cold drought has begun to worsen in China, leading to fears that the harvests will be affected badly by this. The Ming dynasty compensates by introducing pre-emptive rationing. -Malaria and Yellow fever has been introduced to the Greater and Lesser Antilles. This final disease outbreak finishes off the last organised Arawak peoples, the survivors becoming weak victims for European raids. By 1520 their population has declined to 20,000 in the entire Caribbean. -Malaria is most common in areas with stagnant pools of water, hot temperatures and thick or recently cleared vegetation. Poor ventilation and humidity exacerbate this. -The presence of sugary reside in pots scattered around sugar mills allows for bacteria that Mosquito larvae feed on to rapidly grow. -Half of all immigrants to the Caribbean are now African slaves, with the trade in Africa becoming increasingly common. [b]Music of 1516-1520 - Che Farala, Che Dirala - Vincenzo Capirola[/b] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcBKkU9xbTg[/media] Send in new turns please. Use this format for commands. [Quote] Motherland actions: (Try to get investors, colonists, royal support, etc) Exploration actions: (Where to explore, how to explore, etc) Colony actions: (Establishment, expansion, economic focus, etc) Foreign affairs: (Interacting with native groups, criminals, pirates, foreign governments, etc.) [/quote] If a new player, use this in additon. [quote] Kingdom/Nation: Headquarters: Company name: Company flag: (Only private companies may have flags/names, crown colonies fly the flag of the Motherland) [/quote] Send this to me via PM. Please send in all turns titled as "Kingdom/Company name - Turn 6 - Playername"

You took my colour away from me and gave it to [i]Asantos[/i]? What the fuck, Sobo? Ireland must be green. Whoever heard of an orange Ireland?

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35619665]You took my colour away from me and gave it to [i]Asantos[/i]? What the fuck, Sobo? Ireland must be green. Whoever heard of an orange Ireland?[/QUOTE] You are still under authority of the English monarch. Now stop stirring up shit.

Fuck the English Monarch he doesn't make the maps. Orange is an ugly colour. Let me be Shamrock Green dude. [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] Also isn't the point of being a Private Company that I enjoy more freedom from the Monarch than crown colonies?

Brazilwood isn-t in demand anymore? Goddamn it.

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;35619989]Brazilwood isn-t in demand anymore? Goddamn it.[/QUOTE] It is, but the people who used to harvest it have died from disease. [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35619716]Fuck the English Monarch he doesn't make the maps. Orange is an ugly colour. Let me be Shamrock Green dude. [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] Also isn't the point of being a Private Company that I enjoy more freedom from the Monarch than crown colonies?[/QUOTE] Still nominally English.

Fuck the English, I'm an Irish colony. Gonna boycott me some Englishmen.

You have fun with that.

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35620567]Fuck the English, I'm an Irish colony. Gonna boycott me some Englishmen.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2010/11/reaction.jpg[/img] [QUOTE=kamikaze470;35620586]You have fun with that.[/QUOTE] Send in your turn you dickcheese.

Now that is what I call a turn submission. I have begun some pretty lofty goals in for Turn 6, let's see where they go. Also isn't the cure for Malaria found somewhere in South America? I'm gonna have to get right on that. Yellow Fever on the other hand will just have to burn itself out. Also someone totally needs to come in as China and settle the West Coast.

Writing my turn now.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;35620877]Now that is what I call a turn submission. I have begun some pretty lofty goals in for Turn 6, let's see where they go. Also isn't the cure for Malaria found somewhere in South America? I'm gonna have to get right on that. Yellow Fever on the other hand will just have to burn itself out. Also someone totally needs to come in as China and settle the West Coast.[/QUOTE]Sobotnik said we won't be able to pick any other nations beside the European ones. So that sadly won't be a available opportunity for some time.

The Netherlands will be available in about 1580 (Given the current course of history) Of course as events change, more countries can get into the game. I could add the Danes at a later date.

What about Russia?

I... Got a terrible idea for next turn. It involves conquering a swath of coastal Africa for the express purpose of "farming" Slaves. [quote]-Hernan Cortes arrives in Mexico and marches into the heart of the Aztec Empire.[/quote] Well damn, there goes the effectiveness some of the things I wanted to do this turn.

So, regular Africa?

what about scandinavia?

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35621812]What about Russia?[/QUOTE] Russia won't even form until next turn. Even then it still is mostly focused in far Eastern Europe. The Russians won't start spreading into central Asia until the 1600s, and even then it won't do anything in the Americas until well into the 18th century. Siberia was the Russian version of North America.

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;35622276]So, regular Africa?[/QUOTE] Except instead of just gathering up people tribesmen capture and trade for weapons and supplies, we actively keep people for the express purpose of selectively breeding slaves for strong yet complacent workers (intelligence might have to take a dive in that case, or something else.) Eugenics in the 15th century, in other words.

3 turns in out of 7 so far.

[QUOTE=asantos3;35622317]what about scandinavia?[/QUOTE]Scandinavia countries are still one whole unified monarchy so they won't break up until like the 1560s' or so. [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] The majority of my slaves are still coming in from Northern Venezuela still right?

[QUOTE=kamikaze470;35622462]Scandinavia countries are still one whole unified monarchy so they won't break up until like the 1560s' or so. [/QUOTE] [img]http://i52.tinypic.com/twg2.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=kamikaze470;35622462]Scandinavia countries are still one whole unified monarchy so they won't break up until like the 1560s' or so. [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] The majority of my slaves are still coming in from Northern Venezuela still right?[/QUOTE] I thought you started to import them from Africa now?

I don't think I said anything about that in my turn. Wouldn't hurt to start doing it now though. :v:

[QUOTE=kamikaze470;35622922]I don't think I said anything about that in my turn. Wouldn't hurt to start doing it now though. :v:[/QUOTE] I looked at the turns, I do not see you buying any African slaves. But the slave trade is growing anyways in that area, and natives are dying out, so some of your colonists did it for you. Everybody has just over 4 hours to send in their turns. Players who need to send in their turns: Mr Face Van Kaeo (Suprisingly)

How does combat work in this? I've got a feeling that might be coming up in the following turns.