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[t]http://www.dailysoft.com/berlinwall/xgraphics/archive/maps/berlinmap_01.jpg[/t] This, but all over your border

Greenland.

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;35652497][t]http://www.dailysoft.com/berlinwall/xgraphics/archive/maps/berlinmap_01.jpg[/t] This, but all over your border[/QUOTE] I think I'll keep it, I Don't want your mercenary natives trying to burn shit in my lands.

So how many people still need to turn in a turn?

Mr Face, Kamikaze and Asantos all must send in their turns. Everybody has 12 hours left to do it. I decided to add both Malaysia and Greenland. (Along with the Azores and Cape Verde) I am also reworking the map. The annoying tiny bits of island bits will be removed to present a "cleaner" map. This new map is unlikely to be to edited again until the 1600s.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;35651764]You are not a player, and unable to vote.[/QUOTE] You're just butthurt because I started a new ice age and no one can stop it

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35655112]You're just butthurt because I started a new ice age and no one can stop it[/QUOTE] Well yeah they can. The agricultural revolution is just around the corner. (Partly thanks to you speeding things up.) The potato, maize, rice and wheat are rapidly spreading around the globe and starting to be utilised in more cases. Despite heavy population decline due to disease, famine and war, numbers are going to soon recover. Once China starts to import masses of silver from abroad, its economy will accelerate, population will rapidly increase, and the pre-industrial era will slow down and reverse the effects of climate change as the population rises and more land goes under the plough. What you did in effect was to actually speed up things by around 10 - 20 years. Though of course to reverse the mini ice age, I suggest the following be done: 1.Precious metal production explodes, and is shipped to China, Japan and Europe. 2.New world crops and old world crops to be intermixed and start wide spread massive cultivation. 3.Try to reduce the effects of disease through putting housing on raised land, ensuring proper drainage, clearing unneeded vegetation, improving sanitary conditions among slaves, paved roads and expansion of bureaucracies and administration. Doing this will encourage population and trade expansions, and if anything can be done to encourage the pre-industrial era to eventually arrive, it is to put increasing demand on coal and iron industries to increase output, along with deforestation that will force people to depend on coal instead of charcoal and wood.

So then I did a good thing. Exactly what I planned ironically. I brought the bees over because I knew ultimately it would end in good. It's just a shame Face misunderstood my post and [i]fucked my ass[/i]

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35655320]So then I did a good thing. Exactly what I planned ironically. I brought the bees over because I knew ultimately it would end in good. It's just a shame Face misunderstood my post and [i]fucked my ass[/i][/QUOTE] I told you to be careful with them, because you would end up fucking yourself over. Which you did. You disobeyed the monarch and then insulted your only trading partner and potential ally. Finally after pissing off both the colony and crown you mismanage your colony, driving it into the ground before finally abandoning it as dramatically as you possibly could.

1) I did not insult my monarch. I tried to subtly keep importing Scotsmen and he hit me with fines so I stopped. 2) I did not insult my only trading partner I made a joke and he over-reacted without even consulting me beforehand. 3) How exactly is attempting to plant as many food crops as possible and importing as many livestock animals for food a "Mismanagement" of my colony

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35655508] 3) How exactly is attempting to plant as many food crops as possible and importing as many livestock animals for food a "Mismanagement" of my colony[/QUOTE] Because growing peppers in Canada is an intelligent move. Along with looking for marijuana and opium in Canada. Both are completely fucking useless at helping people with their health anyways too. Then you struggle to grow tobacco in a cooling enviroment and wonder why your harvests are diminishing. Finally I drop less than subtle hints about the fur trade in the area which you ignore, and still keep looking for fucking gold and trying to grow weed in the snow. You then commit suicide somehow and go on about some bullshit. Your colony is a failure, despite having a college education in biology you try to grow fucking peppers in Canada.

1) I always put an effort to grow food crops in my turns. And I added plenty of varying crops. For you to pick out specific shit and throw at me is retarded because I tried to grow EVERYTHING. 2) I looked for Marijuana and Opiates like twice and then stopped. Also no they're not useless. Opiates are used as basic morphine and Marijuana is a great depressant that can be used to lower blood pressure. 3) I never wondered why harvests were diminishing. I knew why. I just didn't care. My people were moving south already. What was I supposed to do uproot the entire fucking colony? 4) I ignored them because I was busy with my last turn trying to GROW FOOD CROPS 5) I did not commit suicide. I imported more honey bees, livestock, and devoted my population into fishing and growing food. How you perceive that as suicide I have no idea. [editline]20th April 2012[/editline] Also sorry bro but knowing about plants is [i]horticulture[/i] not biology. Also, you can grow Bell Peppers in Canada, so there.

Could we cut a middle ground and say that, while the colony in the New World did die out, they were able to secure funding and colonists to make an advance foothold in the Malay Islands? It'd give Ven a head's start in the highly profitable Spice Islands while keeping us from reversing whatever happened, and it still gives Ven the opportunity to re-colonize.

I don't want to start another colony. I'm content with watching for now.

Regardless of if you study horticulture or biology you'd think it'd be common knowledge that peppers won't grow very well in the tundra. Or most plants for that matter.

I just realized we're in a Tropical/Subtropical region and haven't even [I]tapped[/I] salt production. Better get on that (EU3 is beginning to prove it's usefulness for once.)

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35656967]Regardless of if you study horticulture or biology you'd think it'd be common knowledge that peppers won't grow very well in the tundra. Or most plants for that matter.[/QUOTE] Except that Southern Ontario isn't Tundra. It's cold, yes, but not Tundra. It's part of the North Temperate Zone. And Bell Peppers can grow there.

Yes, but can it grow those peppers as successfully as other areas? Perhaps you would have survived if you had focused on more successful crops.

Thing is I'd assume he's also growing basic food crops to serve the needs of his people. I mean I haven't mentioned once that I started growing corn or wheat in any of my turn submissions, but we're still getting fed, which would mean him growing bell peppers wasn't for his colony's needs but for export.

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35657024]Yes, but can it grow those peppers as successfully as other areas? Perhaps you would have survived if you had focused on more successful crops.[/QUOTE] You and Sobotnik both keep talking as if I was a retard that attempted to grow one specific food item per turn. I did not do this. I consistent tried to grow the following: Corn, Potatoes, Peas, Squash, Various Grains, Tomatoes, Turnips, Sugar Beets, Grapes, and various other foodstuffs. I was also fishing and attempting to import livestock as well as making honey, maple syrup, and apple cider.

[b]Nova Orbis: Anno Domini 1532[/b] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/5wamO.png[/img_thumb] Players: Mr Face - England (Crown Colony) - (Red, Newfoundland, Maine,Southern Peru, Chile, Manilla) * Mountainwatcher – Portugal (Private Colony) - (Green, Brazil, Northern Peru, Suriname) Kamikaze - France (Private Colony) - (Blue, Puerto Rico, Venezuela) * Ruskie – France (Crown Colony) - (Dark blue, Uruguay, Northern Argentina) Canuhear – Spain (Private Colony) – (Dark Yellow, Cuba, Eastern Mexico, Florida, Jamaica, Bermuda) * Asantos – Portugal (Private Colony) – (Dark Green, Baja California, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) * UrbanMachismo - Denmark (Private Colony) – (Orange, Southern Louisiana) * (Players marked by an * indicates this is a state supported by/helped strongly by slavery) Players are represented by a variant of the base colour of their motherland. Original base colour means this is the oldest/main colony of their nation. Portugal (Green) France (Blue) England (Red) Spain (Yellow) Denmark (Orange) GOODS IN DEMAND: New World: Manufactured goods, guns, horses, slaves. Europe: Tobacco, Sugar, silver, preserved food, spices, porcelain, silk, alcohol, coffee, furs. Africa: Manufactured goods, guns. Asia: Silver, Tobacco. EVENTS OF 1528-1532 -Protests over the edict of Worms escalate, with various city states and German rulers officially starting the Protestant movement. -The Ottoman empire invades Hungary, and then later lays siege to Vienna for a while. -Fluorine is described for the first time. -The Austrians counterattack the Ottomans, and seize Buda. -The Ottomans invade again, and fail miserably. -[I]The Prince[/I] by Machiavelli is published. -The Augsburg confession is presented to Charles 5th of the Habsburg Empire. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Flag_of_Milan.svg/300px-Flag_of_Milan.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of England – Mr Face[/b] -Cardinal Wosley is kicked from power, and the English parliament passes a series of reforms that slowly see the church become separated from Rome. -Tensions run high with the Pope, especially once the King plans to marry Anne Boleyn. -The Kingdom of England has now extensive spending powers, as lenders trust in their gold shipments that keep Europe wealthy. -Plans to combine Wales and England into a single nation begin. Talks of pacifying the Irish are also underway. -Split silver exports to England and China lead the King to demand that either the colony step up production, or export more to England. The Chinese however offer the lowest price on all their manufactured goods in return for silver. [b][I]New England – Mr Face[/I][/b] -As the Portuguese and English take over the crumbled Incan Empire, a deal is reached over where the borders shall be. There is a slight concession to the Portuguese. -The rest of the Incan empire to the south is tamed, and rule of this place begins proper. -Peanuts and tobacco begin to be introduced to the Northeast American colonies and begin to be planted for various uses. The tobacco begins exportation to the Old World, and peanuts are used as livestock feed. It is noted that peanuts help in revitalising the soil, so are intermixed with the tobacco to help improve soil fertility. -Attempts at planting sugar mostly fail in Peru, due to the climate. Most labourers are needed to help in silver mining anyways. -Extensive numbers of native smelters appear around Potosi, a shantytown that is quickly growing into a city. The problem is that this method is far too slow to produce silver with. -A mountain with large mercury deposits is discovered in Peru, and some limited production begins. -Explorers attempt to sail to China over the Pacific ocean, and instead land in the Philippines. The local people tell the explorers that the Chinese come to a nearby bay to trade, and thus the English manage to find the Chinese. The Chinese are amazed by the amount of silver, and sell the English all of the silk and porcelain they have. -English and Chinese traders begin to return to this area, trading silver in return for manufactured goods. A trading post is established in Manilla. -A colony is established in Virginia, which begins to produce tobacco. The rather salty water in the area and marshy land lead to various disease problems that kill significant numbers of colonists. -Explorers begin to explore throughout the rest of the Eastern seaboard. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Flag_Portugal_%281495%29.svg/320px-Flag_Portugal_%281495%29.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of Portugal – Mountainwatcher, Asantos.[/b] -Lisbon is hit by an Earthquake. [img]http://i.imgur.com/u5WHm.png[/img] [b][I]Companhia das Quinas Americanas - Mountainwatcher[/I][/b] -The colonies are promoted as a bastion of religious tolerance. Protestants from Germany begin to immigrate in significant numbers in order to escape persecution and make some dosh. -Fortifications begin to be constructed in Suriname, to protect against incoming French expansion and influence. -The mouth of the Amazon begins to be colonised. The rather interesting ecological conditions and river make travel and life here difficult and hazardous. Partly due to living in a malaria river delta. -In the south of Brazil, the explorers and traders push inland, following French claims to set up their own. A border is clearly becoming defined in this area. -Traders and people passing over the border with France warrants international border controls like back home in Europe to be set up, partly to maintain and control the border. -Coca is planted in extensive numbers to be given to enslaved natives. The enslaved are forced to work down mines and in plantations to help support the growing colonial ambitions of Portugal. -Silver and gold begins to be exported in good qualities. People (And their descendants) who invested into the company 30 years prior are very pleased with this. -The army pushes south into Peru, expansion slowing as Portuguese claims would threaten to overlap English ones. -2 men are sent to Sainte-Cette, where they then call the French governor a “Dunce dave”. They both receive a kick up the arse. [img]http://i.imgur.com/EtppI.jpg[/img] [b][I]Cienia of Niesmiertelni - Asantos[/I][/b] -Not much happens this time, minus expansion of existing facilities. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Flag_of_New_Spain.svg/200px-Flag_of_New_Spain.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of Spain – Canuhearme[/b] -The Kingdom of Spain has now extensive spending powers, as lenders trust in their gold shipments that keep Europe wealthy. [img]http://i.imgur.com/yDuHZ.png[/img] [b][i]El gremio de comerciantes en el Nuevo Mundo – Canuhearme[/i][/b] -The company military force begins to hire Spanish instructors in order to help train and organise it into a proper military force. -The slave trade continues to strengthen as the plantation system spreads and expands. The numbers of plantations and runaway slaves has grown to the point to permit slave communities that form in the wilderness outside of colonies. -The sugar plantations become the most productive on Earth, with sugar industry expanding massively. The diseases however make living here slightly problematic. In order to maintain order with small numbers of Europeans, the slaves are brutally treated and made to fear their overseers. -Cocoa also begins to be grown, and is sold as a drink in Spain and Mesoamerica. Sweetened with sugar and the spices removed it proves to be a tasty and in demand beverage. -Exploration of the mainland continues, and colonies push further south from Yucatan. A fort is established in Florida called “St Augustine” -Forts begin to be build along the coasts with heavy artillery guns, which does well to ward off immediate pirate attacks. -Chocolate is unable to be exported any more processed than the bean stage. The processes that will enable cocoa butter to be extracted will not be developed for centuries. -Horse breeding begins in the colonies to produce good steeds for military purposes. -Some pirates are allowed free access to ports in return for not attacking company shipping. This doesn't stop the French, who simply go to French, English or Portuguese ports instead. -The company promotes itself as a bastion of Catholicism, which ends up causing England to lift the ban on privateering. English pirates begin to join French ones in harassment of the Spanish. -Roads begin to be constructed between colonies. They are mostly hard dirt paths with cleared vegetation, rock beds and signposts. Cobbled roads are only really seen in the urban areas. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Pavillon_royal_de_la_France.svg/200px-Pavillon_royal_de_la_France.svg.png[/img] [b]Kingdom of France – Kamikaze, Ruskie[/b] -French claims in Italy are withdrawn, and it gets to keep Burgundy in return. -Brittany is annexed by France. [b][i]New France – Ruskie[/i][/b] -Traders and people passing over the border with Portugal warrants international border controls like back home in Europe to be set up, partly to maintain and control the border. -Manufactured goods sold by the company manage to raise enough dosh to establish 2 more colonies in South America. -Guns are sold to the Africans in large numbers. In return the company has vast numbers of slaves that it does not need. The company decides to set itself up as a middleman to export slaves to other colonies in the New World, such as the Spanish and French ones up north. Immense profits are had. -A statue is constructed to honour the men who called the Portuguese silly billies. -The two colonies expand quite well with the good profits, but the population is spread rather thinly over large areas. The colonial dragoons have a bit of trouble trying to police the colony that is slowly growing into a state. [img]http://i.imgur.com/XM6BF.jpg[/img] [b][i]Nouvelle-France – Kamikaze[/i][/b] -Minus importation of slaves, and expansion of sugar, tobacco and coffee plantations, not much interesting happens. -Oh wait, Spanish and French privateers and pirates keep battling it out often too. [img]http://blog.justlanded.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/denmark-flag-300x200.gif[/img] [b]Kingdom of Denmark – UrbanMachismo[/b] -Investors throughout Denmark are interested in the events occurring in the New World, and manage to convince some merchants to cobble together a large number of colonists, supplies and ships, with Royal backing to start up a colony. [img]http://i.imgur.com/7LraI.gif[/img] [b]Lady of the Sea Shipbuilding Co – UrbanMachismo[/b] -Colonists from Iceland and the Faroes are recruited. An exploration to Greenland yields no existence of any European settlements, but the last recorded marriage here was around 100 years ago. The local Eskimos have some adopted children, who speak some Norwegian that tell that the colony was abandoned. -Exploration efforts move to the Gulf coast, skirting along Texas and up the Mississippi river (Now known as the Blåtand Floden). A colony is established called “Første Hjem”. -Slaves are imported, but are treated the same way the French ones are. Although somewhat costly, they are less likely to run away at the first opportunity. -Farms are set up to grow food, and logging of trees begins. A small port town slowly emerges. It does not seemingly produce any speciality goods yet for export, this is taken care of by some colonists planting tobacco. Cotton grows well here, but it is financially infeasible. -Timber from the felled trees are used to build a stockade around the colony. -The colonists attempt to be friendly with the natives, which goes somewhat well. The natives buy Danish guns and horses in return for various agricultural goods for export. [b]Ecological/Economic/Non-European events[/b] -The Arawak population of the Antilles has declined to a mere few thousand. Hispaniola itself is sparsely populated anymore as focus lifts from it. -Horses are accidentally introduced to North America in sufficient numbers to allow breeding populations. At this rate, the animal will have firmly established itself in most possible areas by mid-century. -The increasing influx of silver and gold to Europe has allowed many banks to start setting up (Aided also by the reformation getting rid of Catholic penalties for usury) throughout the continent and to lend money to companies starting up. -The carbon sucked in from the skies begins to slow down, and the little ice age slows down its rate of cooling. -Ming harvests begin to recover gradually. Fujian doesn't do very well however. -The increasing incompetence of the government is shown by people refusing to use the paper or coin currency, instead paying for transactions with splinters of silver. In some kind of Libertarian wet-dream, the money supply becomes privatised. -Due to everyday transactions taking place with scraps of silver, a critical demand for silver arises that the Chinese desperately need to take care of. -After contact is established with the English, the Chinese jump on this to sate their growing silver hunger. The economy begins to rapidly recover and expand. -The economy begins to likewise improve in Europe as silver also flows in. [b]Music of 1528-1532 - Fantasia V - Luis Milán[/b] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXIAnyZvYlw&feature=plcp&context=C45b145fVDvjVQa1PpcFNGsIHe6B_DPPIUf2J3hF0UCzFnTug-Va4=[/media] (I know it says 1536 but fuck you, finding music from those specific times is hard.) Send in new turns please. Use this format for commands. [Quote] Motherland actions: (Try to get investors, colonists, royal support, etc) Exploration actions: (Where to explore, how to explore, etc) Colony actions: (Establishment, expansion, economic focus, etc) Foreign affairs: (Interacting with native groups, criminals, pirates, foreign governments, etc.) [/quote] If a new player, use this in additon. [quote] Kingdom/Nation: Headquarters: Company name: Company flag: (Only private companies may have flags/names, crown colonies fly the flag of the Motherland) [/quote] Send this to me via PM. Please send in all turns titled as "Kingdom/Company name - Turn 9 – Playername"

Well I've definitely set myself up for disaster.

What no I'm sorry I'm supposed to be a private company colony not a crown colony. Also the colony is supposed to be named Første Hjem. Blåtand Floden is what I wanted to name the Mississippi River. It means "Bluetooth River", a homage to Harald "Bluetooth" Gormsson [editline]21st April 2012[/editline] Oh jeez. Now I know why you put me as a crown colony. Because I put that in my title then changed my mind after writing the turn but forgot to fix that. I'm sorry Sobotnik. Can you please fix that? [sp]and maybe do the flag for me?[/sp]

[QUOTE=UrbanMachismo;35661054]What no I'm sorry I'm supposed to be a private company colony not a crown colony. Also the colony is supposed to be named Første Hjem. Blåtand Floden is what I wanted to name the Mississippi River. It means "Bluetooth River", a homage to Harald "Bluetooth" Gormsson [editline]21st April 2012[/editline] Oh jeez. Now I know why you put me as a crown colony. Because I put that in my title then changed my mind after writing the turn but forgot to fix that. I'm sorry Sobotnik. Can you please fix that? [sp]and maybe do the flag for me?[/sp][/QUOTE] Alrighty, I noted your turn was labelled "Crown Colony" so I assumed such.

One last thing to change and I'll stop nitpicking I promise. The name of the Company is "Lady of the Sea Shipbuilding Co"

Think we'll be able to squeeze another turn into today?

You and me, Urban? We's gon have problems.

is it just me or us the map way more massive than it should be?

So I'm trying to spread out to salt (preserved food,) porcelain, and spice production, let's see how this goes. Also Sobotnik I posted in my turn that I intended on colonizing a particularly important chain of islands in the Malay Peninsula, yet they aren't on the map (although they technically should be given the size parameters.)

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;35664278]So I'm trying to spread out to salt (preserved food,) porcelain, and spice production, let's see how this goes. Also Sobotnik I posted in my turn that I intended on colonizing a particularly important chain of islands in the Malay Peninsula, yet they aren't on the map (although they technically should be given the size parameters.)[/QUOTE] I'm not adding in the Australian parts yet. I will do so a bit later though. I kind of want to discourage people from going near Australia until the early 1600s. [editline]21st April 2012[/editline] Also what the hell is this? I only have 3 turns in so far.