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Rei's Minimap Mod [url]http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/482147-125-may24-reis-minimap-v31/[/url] It's a pretty awesome convenience and I highly recommend it for marking positions or just getting a general idea of what something may look like from a bird's eye perspective.

I think the definition of "underdeveloped" needs to be clarified. In fact, the whole rule should be changed to a more general "Don't be a fucknugget." Anyway, I think it's absolutely true that Greenturds acts childish. He bans people who disagree with him and people who beat him, and yet he hesitated to ban his IRL friend who was using some pretty blatant hacks. I was going to say "And yet" followed by something dissenting to balance out that previous statement but here's the thing- [I]I couldn't think of anything.[/I] My main suggestion (which will probably be ignored because "i've never run a server") to him is to just get his finger off the ban-button and out of his ears and- just as sort of a trial period- only ban people for hacks. Holding up a battle too long? Don't ban them. Attacking an underdeveloped faction? They're fucknuggets but don't ban them. Not everyone who disagrees with you is "mad" or "butthurt", Green. Nearly all of them are making perfectly valid points that you, as a moderator and administrator, should pay attention to and try to address.

I agree with TMBGFan. If we're truly trying to create a "Earth / Civilization" type of feel on this server (which I'm guessing we are), then let's be honest: throughout the course of history, the strong nations have been preying on the underdeveloped nations since the dawn of time. The British settlers vs the Native Americans (North America) is one example that comes to mind first, but I'm sure if I wanted to break out the history books there are hundreds of others. Doesn't necessarily mean that it was "right", but if you truly want to create a dynamic experience, then let the WORLD judge their actions and not simply an admin with a ban-hammer. Let anyone fight whoever. It's going to happen whether you want it to or not; you can't have eyes everywhere all the time. To me, that actually adds an extra layer of challenge if I'm a new settler trying to start a thriving settlement, and because of that, it's even more fulfilling to "survive" those first few rough days and start being able to hold my own as a faction. This is a faction server, and here's the reality guys: you ALL have come to this server because of that, whether directly or indirectly. There are literally thousands of other Minecraft servers without faction gameplay; I'm sure there's another out there with an earth map. So that means if you're still here, then you're accepting that faction gameplay, is, by its very nature, not generally peaceful. And you know that's part of the reason you play; because everyone wants a challenge. Sure, sometimes you get screwed, but that huge risk vs reward factor makes is what makes it fun.

[QUOTE=Phoenix_3;36220390]Here are some screenshots of the chat that went down. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to fully capture the situation, but this should give somewhat of a perspective of what transpired. [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2012-06-05_21.53_.01_.png[/url] [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2012-06-05_21.53_.10_.png[/url] [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2012-06-05_21.59_.08_.png[/url] [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2012-06-05_21.59_.34_.png[/url] [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2012-06-05_21.59_.35_.png[/url] [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2012-06-05_21.59_.38_.png[/url] [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2012-06-05_21.59_.39_.png[/url] [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2012-06-05_21.59_.40_.png[/url] [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2012-06-05_21.59_.41_.png[/url] [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2012-06-05_21.59_.42_.png[/url] [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/2012-06-05_22.01_.16_.png[/url][/QUOTE] yeah he says he died and lost all his stuff because we killed him when he came to attack us heh also going off what the last 2 people said. shouldn't it be up to the players to take out 'mean' factions like zertopia and ateam? have everyone group up and attack us.

Well, if we want it to be based a bit on the real Earth, then I have a suggestion. We turn off PvP on the server, but for those people that like to fight then I have this idea: 1. We make a Colosseum in Rome and the part of the Colosseum where people fight has PvP turned on. 2. We make a political choice where two factions declare war on each other (possible command: /f war [insert name of faction here]). After both factions declare war on eachother, they can only PvP with the enemy and any of the allies the enemy has (they have to agree in join the war however) Also, we should ban people that make hard to get rid of things, like lava towers. (Seriously, only bastards do that)

Is the server down for anyone else?

[QUOTE=Mortson;36221934]Is the server down for anyone else?[/QUOTE] Yeah, it has been down for most of the day. (You can check the status of the server by checking the dynmap)

i dont feel like playing on a server with a crying admin abusing his power, someone give me 1 good reason why the fuck I should keep playing this shit

[QUOTE=Fury McFlurry;36222947]i dont feel like playing on a server with a crying admin abusing his power, someone give me 1 good reason why the fuck I should keep playing this shit[/QUOTE] Don't then? I have no problems with the admin so I will keep playing.

I skimmed these posts since they are mostly walls of text. So the admin has been abusing his powers? Using them to actually win fights even? What the hell. Why do stupid people make servers. Why do the smart ones never have any money/time to maintain a server? maybe it's because smart and likeable people actually have a life. That kills my motivation to play here when the admin is making things unfair. [editline]6th June 2012[/editline] If you guys need a better Factions server to play on, look up SKS in the GIP section. Looks like this one is dead since it's been down for a long time and I don't see him recovering from this debacle.

I still can't see why my nation, Macedonia, was attacked unprovoked. I'd explicitly stated (in my faction description, made readable upon EVERY entry to my territory) that I was peaceful and that my intentions were to mind my own damn business. I also made clear several times over chat that it wasn't my intention to fight with anyone and that I'd rather just have a good time building. One day later, my base - two semi-finished, semi-good-looking buildings in the middle of Greece was entirely shit on by four guys in full diamond armour. And then blown up. And then griefed. I know it might seem prissy or that I might seem self-righteous in thinking that just because I ask for invincibility I'll get it, but I simply can't understand the mindset of somebody who would destroy an underdeveloped (challenge me on that term, I dare you) nation just for shits and giggles (and inexistent dimmonds). When TMBG raided my old faction, Hellas, on the last map, I was upset too. At least he had the couth to return my territory and the decency to [I]not[/I] spawn camp/repeatedly take the piss out of me. He and I are allies now, and he's got a good head on his shoulders. So, in conclusion, I [I]don't[/I] understand what ATeam's motives are apart from shitting up an otherwise okay server, and if it takes every other nation hating them to bring them down, so be it. I just wish they'd be a bit considerate to my polite request to just [B]build.[/B] I wasn't even given a chance. End rant.

Any ETA on the server being back up?

[QUOTE=Tommeh!;36224150]I still can't see why my nation, Macedonia, was attacked unprovoked. I'd explicitly stated (in my faction description, made readable upon EVERY entry to my territory) that I was peaceful and that my intentions were to mind my own damn business. I also made clear several times over chat that it wasn't my intention to fight with anyone and that I'd rather just have a good time building. One day later, my base - two semi-finished, semi-good-looking buildings in the middle of Greece was entirely shit on by four guys in full diamond armour. And then blown up. And then griefed. I know it might seem prissy or that I might seem self-righteous in thinking that just because I ask for invincibility I'll get it, but I simply can't understand the mindset of somebody who would destroy an underdeveloped (challenge me on that term, I dare you) nation just for shits and giggles (and inexistent dimmonds). When TMBG raided my old faction, Hellas, on the last map, I was upset too. At least he had the couth to return my territory and the decency to [I]not[/I] spawn camp/repeatedly take the piss out of me. He and I are allies now, and he's got a good head on his shoulders. So, in conclusion, I [I]don't[/I] understand what ATeam's motives are apart from shitting up an otherwise okay server, and if it takes every other nation hating them to bring them down, so be it. I just wish they'd be a bit considerate to my polite request to just [B]build.[/B] I wasn't even given a chance. End rant.[/QUOTE] I don't know about them but when someone states their are peaceful obsessively it makes me want to attack them more. If you just want to build play on a build server like profans.

Well the ATeam is a big bother. They are attacking people for absolutely no reason. yeah, you don't have to give a reason for war but this just seems wrong. At this rate, everybody will be paranoid and never want to come on the server again. If a bunch of factions team up and attack them, what is stopping them from building back up and attacking again? They have no other objective other than killing others players. Nothing to gain other than the pleasure knowing that they ruined somebody's work. They should just go on 2b2t.

[QUOTE=sikutrez;36224188]I don't know about them but when someone states their are peaceful obsessively it makes me want to attack them more. If you just want to build play on a build server like profans.[/QUOTE] I probably wasn't entirely clear before, but I don't just want to build. I also want to have a good time with factions/diplomacy (and, of course, play on the amazingly fun earth map). The fact is that I wasn't given a chance to do this. A-Team rallied amazingly quickly and attacked me and my nigh-on ten chunk base for no good reason. Four or more attacking one. This isn't to mention how a few of these immature assholes actually went as far as to mock my loss of a "puny, weak nation" as though I'd actually intended on becoming some enormous, sprawling empire and they'd satisfied themselves by crushing it. If A-Team hadn't interfered in my nationbuilding, I would've been perfectly content for them to raid militaristic nations more suited for a cool, immersive war. A-Team attacking Macedonia would be like today's Brazil attacking the tiny tribes in the Amazonian rainforest just for the sake of a chuckle. Destruction for the sake of destruction is meaningless, Minecraft server or real life. What'd I ever do to offend you guys, anyway? [editline]6th June 2012[/editline] And that's exactly the thing, Mr. Sun. I was so let down by the fact that what I'd built up (or, more appropriately, what I'd tried to build up) was destroyed without warrant nor reason. Let down to the point where I just wanted to give up on the server as I figured I'd never be able to set up in relative peace. Is A-Team respectful? I don't think so, but at least they honour the constraints of the server. But.. fuck, have a bit of decorum.

[QUOTE=Mr. Sun;36224338]Well the ATeam is a big bother. They are attacking people for absolutely no reason. yeah, you don't have to give a reason for war but this just seems wrong. At this rate, everybody will be paranoid and never want to come on the server again. If a bunch of factions team up and attack them, what is stopping them from building back up and attacking again? They have no other objective other than killing others players. Nothing to gain other than the pleasure knowing that they ruined somebody's work. They should just go on 2b2t.[/QUOTE] If many factions were to band together and completely and utterly raze the A-Team's base- nothing worth having left, all the land claimed -they'd be through. They're totally capable of rebuilding, yes, but virtually everybody on the server hates them. They'd be squashed again before they could do more harm. [QUOTE=Tommeh!;36224150] And then blown up. And then griefed.[/QUOTE] The blowing up was us trying to get the stuff in the chests and the griefing was someone who presumably didn't know it wasn't the Ateam's own work.

We played by the rules and even our enemies understood that. Server was only two days old and we had the whole world vs us. We were looking for a fight and never got it.

I don't see the point of factions if everybody is going to attack each other and not use any economy at all feels like a grief server

[QUOTE=Pokerchamp;36224579]We played by the rules and even our enemies understood that. Server was only two days old and we had the whole world vs us. We were looking for a fight and never got it.[/QUOTE] The reason you never got a fight was because the people you attacked weren't [I]able[/I] to fight you. You attacked Macedonia, an entirely peaceful faction who never did anything to anybody and afaik didn't even bother getting stuff to fight [I]with[/I], and utterly razed them. When you attacked Rome, we had one guy in armor, one guy entirely unarmed, and one guy in iron pants. By the time we'd rounded up enough reinforcements you'd left (but not before fucking up at making a TNT cannon and leaving behind half a stack of your precious dimmonds).

dicks n tits you all argue alot

[QUOTE=Pokerchamp;36224579]We played by the rules and even our enemies understood that. Server was only two days old and we had the whole world vs us. We were looking for a fight and never got it.[/QUOTE] we got a small fight but the server owner had to use exploits to attack us.

[QUOTE=TMBGFan;36224657]The reason you never got a fight was because the people you attacked weren't [I]able[/I] to fight you. You attacked Macedonia, an entirely peaceful faction who never did anything to anybody and afaik didn't even bother getting stuff to fight [I]with[/I], and utterly razed them. When you attacked Rome, we had one guy in armor, one guy entirely unarmed, and one guy in iron pants. By the time we'd rounded up enough reinforcements you'd left (but not before fucking up at making a TNT cannon and leaving behind half a stack of your precious dimmonds).[/QUOTE] Attack our base maybe? Get good? We even left you gifts.

[QUOTE=TMBGFan;36224571] The blowing up was us trying to get the stuff in the chests and the griefing was someone who presumably didn't know it wasn't the Ateam's own work.[/QUOTE] Nah, have you seen the dynamic map lately? I can't tell, but half of the territory is now either a crater or a huge mass of cobble. Somebody tore it up bad. I'd say our blowing part of it up in retaliation/to reclaim stuff was completely fair game.

[QUOTE=Pokerchamp;36224691]Attack our base maybe? Get good? We even left you gifts.[/QUOTE] For all you know we are planning to attack your base. and judging by your "WHERE ARE THE DIMMONDS!?" statement i don't think you left them on purpose. [QUOTE=Tommeh!;36224696]Nah, have you seen the dynamic map lately? I can't tell, but half of the territory is now either a crater or a huge mass of cobble. Somebody tore it up bad. I'd say our blowing part of it up in retaliation/to reclaim stuff was completely fair game.[/QUOTE] It's a huge mass of cobble. The guy who did it seemed to have assumed it was an A-team outpost and used the lava/water towering I did before the last map went caput.

[QUOTE=TMBGFan;36224715]For all you know we are planning to attack your base. and judging by your "WHERE ARE THE DIMMONDS!?" statement i don't think you left them on purpose.[/QUOTE] Dimmonds were so ez to get....

[QUOTE=Pokerchamp;36224691]Attack our base maybe? Get good? We even left you gifts.[/QUOTE] "Get good"? We're trying. You're consistently pissing on us and preventing our gathering resources and making a push at you. "Attack our base"? We're trying, but we first have to establish some sort of a home for ourselves - something you're not letting us do. And then you pull the "lol weak"/"lol cowards" card when we hide to protect our meager borders and what few supplies we do have. I'm not saying that consistently attacking us is a poor tactic, but given the circumstances we [I]are[/I] trying our best.

[QUOTE=Tommeh!;36224744]"Get good"? We're trying. You're consistently pissing on us and preventing our gathering resources and making a push at you. "Attack our base"? We're trying, but we first have to establish some sort of a home for ourselves - something you're not letting us do. And then you pull the "lol weak"/"lol cowards" card when we hide to protect our meager borders and what few supplies we do have. I'm not saying that consistently attacking us is a poor tactic, but given the circumstances we [I]are[/I] trying our best.[/QUOTE] Instead of building nice buildings you should of built a wall. You are playing on a pvp server you should always expect to be attacked. If you can't handle pvp play on a profans.

You know, in all honesty, I think the teleportation system in itself is complete bullshit. If you wanna attack somebody, you'd better [I]walk[/I] to their base and hope you get there safe, like real life. With teleportation, you can mobilize an army virtually anywhere and devise an attack in seconds.

[QUOTE=ryfry99;36224770]Instead of building nice buildings you should of built a wall. You are playing on a pvp server you should always expect to be attacked. If you can't handle pvp play on a profans.[/QUOTE] I thought factions on earth is cool but nobody is going to have a hell of a chance to get any major amounts of territory, and since people just constantly attack etc. I think that warring with other factions should be organized to allow people who don't like fighting to create what they want and still have that ability of fighting. It'd have a lot less complaining and more playing. I guess PVP is fun, but, not for this.

[QUOTE=ryfry99;36224770]Instead of building nice buildings you should of built a wall. You are playing on a pvp server you should always expect to be attacked. If you can't handle pvp play on a profans.[/QUOTE] A good point, but there wouldn't have been time for that anyhow. I'll admit that I am a sucker for nice buildings, but it takes time to build a decent wall - time that, between all of your attempts to thwart us, we had little of. [editline]6th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;36224825]I thought factions on earth is cool but nobody is going to have a hell of a chance to get any major amounts of territory, and since people just constantly attack etc. I think that warring with other factions should be organized to allow people who don't like fighting the ability to create what they want and still have that ability. It'd have a lot less complaining and more playing. I guess PVP is fun, but, not for this.[/QUOTE] What I wouldn't give for a function that could set my faction as permanently neutral. Let the militaristic types have their wars, and more power to 'em.