Wow, this new map is so cool, found good spot for city.
Who wants to join it when we get server and rules done?
As long as its you, Dead, and one other admin making these, I think that is totally acceptable.
[QUOTE=oskutin;28839767]Wow, this new map is so cool, found good spot for city.
Who wants to join it when we get server and rules done?[/QUOTE]
Could I join right now to get a lay of the land and such? I would have no part in cities, so there's no need for worry about already creating traps or whatever.
[QUOTE=oskutin;28839767]Wow, this new map is so cool, found good spot for city.
Who wants to join it when we get server and rules done?[/QUOTE]
Do not do anything to it, admins cannot build towns, get resources and other such things.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;28839772]As long as its you, Dead, and one other admin making these, I think that is totally acceptable.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure we would need another admin other than dead, it's not like anything bad would happen. Dead and I think for the best of the server, and I would make these for other players to have fun. I have no personal agenda other than making fun little hidden things with lore, so I don't think there would be any need for mods other than Dead, or some one other person instead of him if he wasn't on.
Osku, if you do another Creeppavalley thing, the server is going to hell again. The towns should be player run and made, not abused by Admins and their commands.
No i'm not building there any city yet, i just found good spot and marked it with torhes, let people build houses.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;28839828]Osku, if you do another Creeppavalley thing, the server is going to hell again. The towns should be player run and made, not abused by Admins and their commands.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, no /give. I'll only use it for project that are not long-term, but cities are created by players and not part of any lore.
[QUOTE=oskutin;28839847]No i'm not building there any city yet, i just found good spot and marked it with torhes, let people build houses.[/QUOTE]
Let the people decide where they want the towns, torches make it so automated and fake. Let the people decide.
[editline]27th March 2011[/editline]
The map should stay untouched until release.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;28839869]Let the people decide where they want the towns, torches make it so automated and fake. Let the people decide.
[editline]27th March 2011[/editline]
The map should stay untouched until release.[/QUOTE]
You aren't the king of the server, or any higher in command than Deadchicken, Black1ce, or I. (At least that I know of...) Osku and Dragory are the current heads of the server. Let them do what they want. None of us broke the economy, but helped it in the long-run.
With that aside, I do think that you should release the people into the server and let them do what they please, as Lori kindly did request. It would be a bit more lively and interesting.
The map should not have anything done to it by admins, and admins should join when normal players join to help build the town, no /give though.
[editline]27th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Chezhead;28839947]You aren't the king of the server, or any higher in command than Deadchicken, Black1ce, or I. (At least that I know of...) Osku and Dragory are the current heads of the server. Let them do what they want. None of us broke the economy, but helped it in the long-run.
With that aside, I do think that you should release the people into the server and let them do what they please, as Lori kindly did request. It would be a bit more lively and interesting.[/QUOTE]
Chezhead, I'm not the one out for unlimited power like you are. I am in fact giving up msot of my own power because it is the right thing to do.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;28839959]Chezhead, I'm not the one out for unlimited power like you are. I am in fact giving up msot of my own power because it is the right thing to do.[/QUOTE]
For the most part, that was my plan. But when the idea of making ruins and events came along, I stepped down from my power-hungry position and made things like that instead of killing and looting. That's what I plan to do on the server this time around as well.
But as you said, that map shouldn't be edited, I agree. Just release the players in and let them fend for themselves, and in maybe three or so days, we can start events and build dungeons. But then again, Osku and Dragory are the heads of the server, they do what they want, even if we don't agree.
[QUOTE=Chezhead;28840001]For the most part, that was my plan. But when the idea of making ruins and events came along, I stepped down from my power-hungry position and made things like that instead of killing and looting. That's what I plan to do on the server this time around as well.
But as you said, that map shouldn't be edited, I agree. Just release the players in and let them fend for themselves, and in maybe three or so days, we can start events and build dungeons. But then again, Osku and Dragory are the heads of the server, they do what they want, even if we don't agree.[/QUOTE]
If they do that, however, they should be prepared for a heavy loss of players.
[B]WIP Admin hierachy and job list:[/B]
[B]Overlords:[/B]
Overlords have all the power, no other admin must not start any larger project wich uses admin stuff without overlords permission.
Osku
Dragory
[B]Special Admins[/B]
Chezhead (Dungeon master, makes dungeons)
Deadchicken (I/O master, builds mechanized and automated stuff when needed. Also helps Chezhead)
[B]Normal Admins:[/B]
These just watch that everything goes on track.
Loriborn
Black1ce
Shafol
Yucca
Kytö
[QUOTE=Loriborn;28840035]If they do that, however, they should be prepared for a heavy loss of players.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say it would be a heavy loss, but just not RP-like. It would bring some people, but drive some people away. I estimate that it would even out in the long-run, but feel that there are many reasons not to pre-build.
1-Less work, less time, more time playing beforehand.
2-Better ideas and fun for players
3-More RP-like!
[QUOTE=oskutin;28840046][B]WIP Admin hierachy and job list:[/B]
[B]Overlords:[/B]
Overlords have all the power, no other admin must not start any larger project wich uses admin stuff without overlords permission.
Osku
Dragory
[B]Special Admins[/B]
Chezhead (Dungeon master, makes dungeons)
Deadchicken (I/O master, builds mechanized and automated stuff when needed. Also helps Chezhead)
[B]Normal Admins:[/B]
These just watch that everything goes on track.
Loriborn
Black1ce
Shafol
Yucca
Kytö[/QUOTE]
Sounds good. I'm guessing this means I wouldn't ban players if I saw them doing bad things? Or could I? Or would I have to just tell a mod?
[QUOTE=oskutin;28840046][B]WIP Admin hierachy and job list:[/B]
[B]Overlords:[/B]
Overlords have all the power, no other admin must not start any larger project wich uses admin stuff without overlords permission.
Osku
Dragory
[B]Special Admins[/B]
Chezhead (Dungeon master, makes dungeons)
Deadchicken (I/O master, builds mechanized and automated stuff when needed. Also helps Chezhead)
[B]Normal Admins:[/B]
These just watch that everything goes on track.
Loriborn
Black1ce
Shafol
Yucca
Kytö[/QUOTE]
Dat Spelling...
But on a serious note, this looks fine. As long as "special" admins are restricted to said job, and do not act like moderator admins such as myself or Black1ce. I think DeadChicken's I/O will mostly be used in Chezhead's dungeons though.
[editline]27th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Chezhead;28840075]Sounds good. I'm guessing this means I wouldn't ban players if I saw them doing bad things? Or could I? Or would I have to just tell a mod?[/QUOTE]
I think it's the latter, as you will be mostly busy with dungeons.
[editline]27th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Chezhead;28840069]I wouldn't say it would be a heavy loss, but just not RP-like. It would bring some people, but drive some people away. I estimate that it would even out in the long-run, but feel that there are many reasons not to pre-build.
1-Less work, less time, more time playing beforehand.
2-Better ideas and fun for players
3-More RP-like![/QUOTE]
Totally agree.
[QUOTE=Chezhead;28840075]Sounds good. I'm guessing this means I wouldn't ban players if I saw them doing bad things? Or could I? Or would I have to just tell a mod?[/QUOTE]
You'll have still rights to do normal admin work.
The old map been uploaded somewhere yet? I'm just kind of chilling right, either waiting for your server or for the map so I can finish my stuff in SP.
That spelling, my mind is full of fuck
[QUOTE=oskutin;28840101]You'll have still rights to do normal admin work.[/QUOTE]
Okay. I'll answer questions when they are asked to me, over OOC, or such. If I see griefing, I'll ban 'em. I will say, I'll likely be working on the lore too much to seek out and find griefers.
By the way, I request that you add a /nick function and fix the /vanish command. The former is for boss battles and NPC sort of things, and the latter is for DMing, like activating events. Pulling a lever to make a floor fall in, open a door for monsters to come though, and the like.
[B]Settlerlist:[/B]
Say in this thread if you want to make new settlement. Or wanting to join exist settler team, and i'll add you to this list.
(max 3 teams)
[B]Osku's team:
[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/members/394420-MoarFunz"]MoarFunz's team:[/URL][/B]
Wow, this is gonna be great :v: Brand new places, huge tracts of land, just waiting to be admired, harvested, and possibly settled upon.
I still believe there should be one town when we start up, starting this whole "colony" thing only leads to more dispersion. All peoples should help make the first town, and the second at the same time. Two towns max until we get more people.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;28840447]I still believe there should be one town when we start up, starting this whole "colony" thing only leads to more dispersion. All peoples should help make the first town, and the second at the same time. Two towns max until we get more people.[/QUOTE]
The town should simply be a small roads system. People have to make the walls and buildings.
[QUOTE=Chezhead;28840496]The town should simply be a small roads system. People have to make the walls and buildings.[/QUOTE]
Roads should still be player made, again, no admin intervening. We are normal players, and should act like such (except Chez and Dead, who even then should be helping us until later).
The towns are started, and once we see them both growing, we become one with the town, or go off to do our specific server job.
[editline]27th March 2011[/editline]
Server should be open to admins to allow us to see what's happening, and to allow Chez and Dead to see where some nice locations for dungeons would be.
There's no plugins installed, nothing, we have to install, and configure half a dozen new, complex plugins. as well as stripping down old ones, and redoing chat Channels.
There's gonna be a slight delay till all that's perfected before the map is even opened to us.
What is the list of plugins?
[QUOTE=Deadchicken;28840704]There's no plugins installed, nothing, we have to install, and configure half a dozen new, complex plugins. as well as stripping down old ones, and redoing chat Channels.
There's gonna be a slight delay till all that's perfected before the map is even opened to us.[/QUOTE]
Ah well... Have an estimate? If it's an hour or longer, looks like I'll be playing borderlands downstairs.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;28840447]I still believe there should be one town when we start up, starting this whole "colony" thing only leads to more dispersion. All peoples should help make the first town, and the second at the same time. Two towns max until we get more people.[/QUOTE]
I still support this
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