[QUOTE=DPennington;36667770]No sorry but those borders are incorrect for 1901.
For the time period those borders are correct as they are on the map already.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://mapsof.net/map/europe-map-1900[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map-of-Ottoman-Empire-in-1900-German.svg[/url]
Just been using maps from 1900 but unless a lot of major stuff happened in 1901 then I am correct.
[editline]7th July 2012[/editline]
Or to avoid too much confusion since we already started the game we could just keep it as it is. I don't mind.
Everything I'm finding from 1901 puts the map at what it is now.
[QUOTE=DPennington;36667967]Everything I'm finding from 1901 puts the map at what it is now.[/QUOTE]
Could you maybe show me?
What do you think Mr. Face?
[QUOTE=Mr. Face;36667701]To those of you who have neglected to send in their turns.
Do so now, the turn will be posted tonight. Tomorrow will be devoted to setting up the new PC and otherwise chilling. Monday I will be in DC.[/QUOTE]
You got my turn right? I know I wrote it but did I send it
There's not really any point, Robbi. This would be something to tackle before the game starts. As it is, the Ottoman Empire is controlled by a player. Major border reworking like this is not something to do to a PC nation.
The province in North Finland and Aland were fine. So was the small island between Canada and Michigan. But this is a lot of territory.
[QUOTE=Liem;36668000]You got my turn right? I know I wrote it but did I send it[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the statement was more pointed towards Intoxicated Spy than anything.
[QUOTE=DPennington;36668173]There's not really any point, Robbi. This would be something to tackle before the game starts. As it is, the Ottoman Empire is controlled by a player. Major border reworking like this is not something to do to a PC nation.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that was what I was thinking too. Doesn't really matter that much.
But it is Mr. Face's game so I guess he decides.
[U][B]Empires & Revolutions: Turn 4
1904[/B][/U]
[B]Map:
[/B]​[t]http://i.cubeupload.com/CYpNd8.png[/t]
[B]Ethiopia – MountainWatcher[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IDU2C.png[/IMG]
-The borders along the Italian colonies are fortified heavily.
-Due to British trade the Ethiopian weaponry has become much more modernized, vastly improving the capabilities of Ethiopia's military.
-An embassy is built for the United Kingdom in Addis Ababa.
-Addis Ababa is nominated for the Olympics but does not win.
-Oil and mining have further improved the economy, the improvement is slow but its still doing a great deal to help Ethiopia.
-The majority of the tribal culture in Addis Ababa has been destroyed and replaced with European culture. In other more rural areas it is seen as a threat to the very meaning of Ethiopia. The civilian populace is growing restless in areas outside of Addis Ababa.
-Extra health care is given to the miners that are so needed in Ethiopia.
-Ethiopia joins the League of Nations in alliance with Italy. Ethiopians everywhere breathe a sigh of relief....then get back to scrounging for food.
-Ethiopia formally prepares an Olympic squad to compete in London. The competitors are awarded with food and possibly some shelter if they do well.
[B]Ottoman Empire – Daniel Smith[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3ux0D.png[/IMG]
-Research begins on a new vehicle called the All-Terrain Armoured War Mobile (ATAWM) and nicknamed the Autumn Tank , it is capable of relatively high speeds and is capable of going through any terrain without slowing down. The downside is its notable lack of armor and cannon strength.
-Spain, Portugal, and Greece allow for command posts to be built in Europe, all of the other nations of Europe absolutely refuse or have yet to respond.
-The old colored uniforms are replaced with a newer pattern. Camouflage.
-New sabres are developed and distributed. They are designed to be lightweight and slightly shorter.
-A new rifle design is created. A ten-round clip fed bolt action rifle designed for durability and accuracy. It is remarked that it is quite a hefty weapon.
-Researchers are sent around the world to study other nations' technological advancements.
-Open trade with western nations begins. The economy improves markedly as a result.
-Large-scale industrialization of the military begins, namely the development of newer small arms weaponry.
-Industry becomes the main focus of the Ottoman economy, superseding agriculture.
-Propaganda is distributed widely, proclaiming the need for the Ottoman Empire to return to its former glory.
-More military recruitment and employment options are given, decreasing the unemployment rate.
-Reforms are implemented allowing the government to become more centralized.
-The social structure of the Ottoman Empire begins to change, these changes allow a free market to flow.
-France and Italy ally with the Ottoman Empire.
[B]Commonwealth of Democratic Socialist Canadian Territories – DPennington[/B]
[IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/cVaKwk.png[/IMG]
-Improvements are implemented to the new Semi-Automatic rifles that increase accuracy and durability a great deal.
-A dreadnought sails out of the docks, its name is the PCV Institution, it holds nine 16 inch guns on three turrets and 12 10 inch guns on six turrets.
-To counteract the problems with the artillery units engineers implement a breach loading piece that employs a leg to increase stability while decreasing recoil. Wheel locks are also placed.
-A new flamethrower is designed and tested using the proper changes necessary to ensure safety. The tests prove to be successful.
-An offer to buy Alaska from the United States for a sum of $15,000,000.00 is sent. The United States accepts.
-An alliance between the United States and Canada is announced. “NASA” (North American Strategic Alliance) is formed.
-The offer for an alliance between Canada and Austria-Hungary is rejected, a counter-proposal is sent, its contents being a non-aggression pact and a trade treaty. An offer of 15% off of their first maple syrup purchase is sent as well.
-An offer is sent to Denmark to buy Greenland and Iceland, they agree to Greenland for a sum of $19,000,000.00.
-Canadian ships and submarines are sold to Spain, Portugal, and Mexico. Many of these ships turn up with strange flaws and are sent back to Canada for costly repairs.
-The continuation of the sale of small arms and cannons occurs.
-Maple Syrup plantations are invested into. Maple Syrup production has become an art form of sorts.
-An influx in the construction of refineries, forges, and oil derricks is noted. This added production further helps the Canadian economy.
-A sales tax of 6% is introduced for all purchases in the United States. The benefits outweigh the costs greatly but the populace still doesn't like it.
-All profits from the sales tax go towards the improvement of infrastructure and education.
-A large-scale gradual project is introduced that plans to implement electricity into as many homes as possible. The plan is for this to be completed by the year 1910.
-Large oil platforms are built in large amounts along the Canadian Eastern and Western coasts. A lot of oil is had.
-A scientist accidentally discovers Uranium in southern Ontario. Scientists ponder the possibilities of this new substance.
-Any office members suspected of corruption are purged.
-An official police force is implemented throughout Canada to prevent crime.
-All in all the year 1904 has resulted in a slight economic decrease due to the purchase of Alaska but Canada still remains at the top of the pile economically.
[B]Japan – Crossu88[/B]
[IMG]http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2523/japanflagk.png[/IMG]
-Due to the lost shipments the military is sent to Korea to investigate and put down any possible rebellions. All imports to China are closely guarded by military personnel. The first three guarded shipments are attacked from an unknown source but those attacks are repelled with only minor damages and casualties.
-China is asked to allow outposts to be built for the trade caravans to rest at safely.
-The borders to China and Russia are fortified.
-Searches are made to find the missing supplies and people. They find bodies but no supplies. Caliber of the bullets match those of Chinese rifles. Could it be the Chinese government or a rebellious group with grievances against the Chinese and Japanese government?
-China is asked to allow guarded routes to be built to allow safe trade (do these requests by PM directly to him from this point forward. If you and him both say that the deal is accepted I will place it in the turn, otherwise you're only posing a question).
-A small railway project begins. The only major expense is the ferry system across the islands.
-The navy begins to patrol the waterways heavily.
-A few more mines are built in Japan, a lot of people are beginning to worry about the government milking Japan's resources too much.
-Japan attempts to build an oil rig in the Sea of Japan. Due to a structural flaw the entire rig collapses in on itself, killing all 150 crewmen.
-Japan is a free market nation, it already has more than two companies competing.
-Even more propaganda is distributed. Some citizens are beginning to doubt the propaganda due to the mass amount of it.
[B]United States of America – Yersinia[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8Tpi4.png[/IMG]
-Engineers refine the semi-automatic rifle, it is slightly more accurate but there are complaints of heavy jamming due to the new additions to it.
-The refined diesel engines are placed in trains. These trains are now among the fastest in the world.
-The border to Mexico is heavily reinforced.
-The fleet production is slowed, releasing the heavy weight on the economy.
-Scientists begin developing hazmat suits but nothing suitable has come of the designs.
-War is declared on Cuba and an invasion begins in earnest. By the end of the year the formal military of Cuba is destroyed. There is a large underground resistance force that is wreaking havoc on United States forces though.
-An embassy is built in Ottawa.
-Alaska is sold to Canada, Americans everywhere are left scratching their heads as to why the government would sell something that they had just recently bought and of which was providing a large amount of gold.
-Following Canada's lead (I can't believe the United States is following Canada's lead on anything :v:), the United States builds their first off shore oil platform in the Gulf of Mexico. Large amounts of oil flow from the Gulf.
-The United States agrees with Canada's connected railway. Construction of the United States side of the railway begins in earnest.
-Attempts are made to weed out any corruption in the United States government. Only one Congressman is found and convicted.
-The US Supreme Court rules that Congress' act in which tax exemption to religious organizations is unconstitutional. The law is repealed and religious organizations no longer have to pay taxes.
-Educational funding is increased heavily. Schools are built across the nation as education becomes a large part of the American way of life.
-A service-by-requirement system is voted on in Congress. It is generally thought that it is unnecessary and as a result is not passed.
-A sales tax is implemented. Originally introduced as an 8% tax, it is talked down to a 5% tax instead.
[I]You need to take things a little more gradually with a nation like the United States, some bills will not be passed or will be changed due to them being outrageous (especially considering the times).[/I]
[B]France – FurFag [/B]
[IMG]http://niggaupload.com/images/3iDoN.png[/IMG]
-Border fortifications continue heavily. The funds placed in this project are certainly not helping France economically at this point.
-Advisers and technicians are sent to China to assist them in gaining a more advanced military.
-The military is placed on high alert, all armies are placed on stand-by in case of a German attack.
-A trade agreement/abolition of tariffs is agreed on with China as well as an alliance.
-An alliance is opened with the Ottoman Empire.
[B]Italy – Liem[/B]
[I]I need a flag from you.[/I]
-The Military is further reinforced and the funding is reaching ridiculous levels. The economy has worsened a lot due to the strain of upkeep.
-Any and all scientists who are willing to assist the military in research are offered large sums of money as a reward.
-An official alliance is opened with Ethiopia.
-Financial support is offered to the ailing Ethiopia, putting more strain on an already weaker economy.
-Shipping of maple syrup is pushed as Italians everywhere demand more of the sugary sweetness.
-Trade centers are built all across Italy, allowing for far easier trade.
-Small reforms occur that bring Italy closer to a democratic state.
[B]Poland – Sobotnik[/B]
[I]I need a flag from you.[/I]
-A service-by-requirement system is implemented. Males who have reached the age of 18 are put in a mandatory 6 month basic training course. Those who are in career fields of importance to the government are exempt.
-Trade agreements are opened with all of the Scandinavian nations along with Denmark and Greece.
-Delegates are sent to Frankfurt after the start of the rebellion to officially recognize them as a nation.
-Delegates are sent to Russia to decrease Russia's influence on Poland.
-The right and left extremists of the world are publicly denounced. Reason, rather than dogma, is fully endorsed by the Polish government.
-Subsidies are given to armament industries in Poland, the weapons produced from these industries are sold to other nations. Due to the lack of technological advancements in Poland only the smaller nations buy these weapons. Greece, Portugal, and Denmark all are buyers of the weaponry.
-Poland opens its borders to those around the world that are open minded and wish to be freed from the restrictions of controlling governments.
-Funding is placed in the building of a national phoneline. The estimated completion date is the year of 1910.
-Rail lines are built or rebuilt around Poland, all allowing for heavier locomotives capable of a higher carrying capacity.
-Asphalt is used as a road surface for the first time in any place around the globe. The first streets to be paved with this surface are in the larger cities of Poland. The people of Poland all remark on the ability for faster travel and wonder at the implications of such a thing.
-A central bank is established.
-A national insurance system is established in which all of the people of Poland are registered. It is designed to help pay for a variety of things, including medical treatments, pensions, and unemployment subsidies.
-The government is formally established with an upper and lower chamber. A separation of powers is implemented to prevent any form of a dictatorship from taking place. Men aged 21 or above are given suffrage. Women aged 30 or above and that are married are given suffrage.
[B]Germany – [Seed Eater]
[/B][I]I see you're taking the Libya route with your flag.[/I]
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/38678023/GermanyFlag.png[/IMG]
-Agriculture is heavily subsidized, giving it the kickstart it so desperately needed.
-Obedient workers are given more food as an incentive for the others to step up. This serves to only anger the Frankfurt protestors more.
-80% of “minor” industries return to the capitalists, this effectively ends the protesting in Berlin but there is no change in Frankfurt.
-Jobs are provided at the largest quantity from the Workers Association. If you do not join this association, chances are you will remain jobless. As a result a small group of five men vandalize the city center in Frankfurt. The military is called in and ordered not to fire unless attacked but there are still cases of beatings.
-Higher wages are given to workers.
-Rioters are offered regular wages and food if they just get back to work. Frankfurtians scoff at this.
-Income tax on business owners is set to 12%, large loans are offered at 4% interest, new markets are opened, and other steps are taken to stabilize the economy.
-A financial committee is set up. It is headed by Jews because, and I quote, “Jews are good at this sort of thing”.
-A large-scale rebellion erupts in Frankfurt after a small crowd of protestors becomes violent and are fired upon. 10 are killed in the shooting. Fighting erupts throughout the city of Frankfurt and, embarrassingly, the military is kicked out. Frankfurt announces its independence.
[B]Chinese Empire – Ruskie[/B]
[IMG]http://puu.sh/CPpz[/IMG]
-The Great Reform continues.
-The French advisers and technicians begin assisting the Empire in a number of ways. Through the improvement of leadership in the officer corps, improvement in training of the regular soldier, and improvement in the design of barracks and dockyards. Advisers and technicians also assist in the creation of designs of weaponry.
-An alliance and trade agreement is opened with France.
-A project begins, it's goal is to map the resources of China. As these resources are mapped the appropriate extraction infrastructure is built. The economy improves through the heavy sale of these resources.
-Education is required up to the age of 16.
-A higher education system is created that will allow students to branch off into higher positions at the work place. It is non-compulsory.
-Military becomes a requirement for all males who have finished education. It is a one year requirement.
-A public relations campaign begins. It states that China is regaining its position in the world and its mandate of heaven with the modernization program whilst Germany has fallen flat on its face due to its extremism.
[B]Sweden – Robbi (Welcome to the game)
[/B][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RSBWy.png[/IMG]
-The military is mobilized and moved north. Defenses are built heavily along the Russian and Finnish border out of fear of one of the two becoming aggressive.
-Naval ports and forts are built in Gotland. This aggressive move is seen by many (especially Finland) as unnecessary. The final outcome is the assertion of dominance in the Baltic Sea.
-A new military unit is created, named the Home Guard, it is trained in the tactics of guerrilla warfare. All fit males of the age of 16 are drafted into this organization.
-Mines are built heavily in northern Sweden. Large mineral deposits are noted. The economy improves.
-Denmark and Sweden open up talks after a long period of distrust. The Danish throne is invited to Sweden. All goes well and Denmark and Sweden begin an unofficial friendship.
-Rumors are spread around of the idea of a single nation rather than an Austria-Hungary like union. The populace seems either indifferent or positive about the idea.
-All fit males who deny military service are sent to three months of hard labor or four months of jail. Many men take the four months of jail due to the lack of length in the sentence.
snip
Stealth turn!
I do not like the fact that the Congress and Supreme Courts have such a huge say in what I do with my country.
3% is a big difference on the large scale and a small difference to individuals. That extra 3% sales tax could have funded a lot of infrastructure improvements.
Same to the tax exemption shit. Religious organizations don't need tax exemption they make enough money. Let them pay their taxes!
Can I just abolish the congress and supreme court?
[QUOTE=Yersinia;36669822]I do not like the fact that the Congress and Supreme Courts have such a huge say in what I do with my country.
3% is a big difference on the large scale and a small difference to individuals. That extra 3% sales tax could have funded a lot of infrastructure improvements.
Same to the tax exemption shit. Religious organizations don't need tax exemption they make enough money. Let them pay their taxes!
Can I just abolish the congress and supreme court?[/QUOTE]
You can but the entirety of the United States will rebel.
Face it, the things you're attempting would never be passed in the United States. You picked a full blown democracy and you have to live with the fact that some things won't be passed.
They should be passed because it's stupid for it to not exist.
1) Religious organisations don't need tax exemption. They make far more than enough money to support themselves, often times more than comfortably. It isn't 'unconstitutional' to revoke their tax exemption. Nowhere in the constitution does it say religions don't have to pay taxes.
2) Reducing the sales tax to 5% doesn't make sense. Most states it hovers between 6-7% before state surcharges. After state surcharges a lot of sales taxes end up around 9-12%
3) Service by Requirement is a better idea than a volunteer system. It teaches youth discipline and gives them better job opportunities in life.
[QUOTE=Yersinia;36669897]They should be passed because it's stupid for it to not exist.
1) Religious organisations don't need tax exemption. They make far more than enough money to support themselves, often times more than comfortably. It isn't 'unconstitutional' to revoke their tax exemption. Nowhere in the constitution does it say religions don't have to pay taxes.
2) Reducing the sales tax to 5% doesn't make sense. Most states it hovers between 6-7% before state surcharges. After state surcharges a lot of sales taxes end up around 9-12%
3) Service by Requirement is a better idea than a volunteer system. It teaches youth discipline and gives them better job opportunities in life.[/QUOTE]
1) If that isn't going to be passed now, it certainly wouldn't have actually been passed then.
2) Through a number of years it can be raised up.
3) Service-by-requirement is unnecessary in the United States in their current state of isolationism, therefore Congress wouldn't go for it.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/RSBWy.png[/img]
That was the worst thing I think I've ever experienced.
I just sneezed and burped. I nearly vomited.
Holy fuck that tasted and felt bad.
[QUOTE=Mr. Face;36669925]1) If that isn't going to be passed now, it certainly wouldn't have actually been passed then.
2) Through a number of years it can be raised up.
3) Service-by-requirement is unnecessary in the United States in their current state of isolationism, therefore Congress wouldn't go for it.[/QUOTE]
1) I can start restricting the power of the Supreme Court, and presidents can always force laws through congress. Their power isn't restricted to just vetoing things.
3) Even though I just invaded another country?
Face can you get on Steam? I want to send you the map before I post it to make sure I didn't miss anything.
Also I want to talk to Denmark.
Shit, My economy is failing
Gee I wonder if it has anything to do with your massive expenditure on military arms and lack of any true industrialisation?
Nah couldn't be.
snip I should refresh more often
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl32FXRl59A[/media]
Have some music then.
[QUOTE=Yersinia;36669971]1) I can start restricting the power of the Supreme Court, and presidents can always force laws through congress. Their power isn't restricted to just vetoing things.
3) Even though I just invaded another country?[/QUOTE]
Cuba was just taken out of the picture.
The President can introduce a bill, he cannot put the bill through.
[editline]7th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=DPennington;36669982]Face can you get on Steam? I want to send you the map before I post it to make sure I didn't miss anything.
Also I want to talk to Denmark.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, hold on.
Denmark isn't user controlled by the way.
Herm, I can cut funding to everything but military.
[QUOTE=Liem;36670019]Herm, I can cut funding to everything but military.[/QUOTE]
Just a tip, starving soldiers aren't good soldiers.
[QUOTE=Robbi;36670113]Just a tip, starving soldiers aren't good soldiers.[/QUOTE]
The strong can eat the weak
[t]http://i.cubeupload.com/CYpNd8.png[/t]
Change Log:
-Alaska sold to Canada
-Cuba Annexed by the United States
-Frankfurt Rebellions
My flag is supposed to be a blank dark red flag.
Sorry Mr. Face I just sent an Unfinished turn in a misclick, please disregard it. I also failed to send myself a copy, would you mind sending it to me?
Also, whoever's funding the Frankfurters, quit your shit, or I'm taking drastic measures.
Ethiopia will provide an example of what will happen.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36670583']Also, whoever's funding the Frankfurters, quit your shit, or I'm taking drastic measures.
Ethiopia will provide an example of what will happen.[/QUOTE]
Pick on the defenseless nation?
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